Brexit discussion thread V - No Pic/GIF dumps please

bilston wrote: »

I wonder what Brexiteers will say if it's tight and for example 52% of MPs support the PM and 48% oppose her...?

They will say it's not a mandate, despite saying it is for Brexit.

They've called for another election, because they didn't like the result of the last one and called for another leadership election, as they don't like the person they voted in last time and say that it's not undemocratic.

But if someone asks for another referendum it's not allowed because it betrays any kind of democracy by asking people the same question again, which is laughable really, but shows you what you're dealing with.

You see this with the way they talk about the EU, and talk about other deals they have made even though they're just proposals. It's all staggering arrogance from people who are used to getting their own way.

Look at it from outside the Brexit bubble, you've got a bunch of very very rich people who have spent their whole life getting their own way due to their wealth and have become arrogant self obsessed Tories. If they want something they get it, if someone else wants something similar, they don't.

The likes of Jacob Rees Mogg wants to cut taxes for the rich whilst increasing them for a poor with a single tax band - he couldn't give a damn about your average man on the street, integrity, compassion and caring for the man down the street and empathy are things he'll never have and it's the likes of him that symbolise everything I hate about the Tory party. He doesn't care about rules, ethics or honesty or consistency. He just cares about himself.

hill16bhoy wrote: »

Something to keep in mind.

Could May's apparent grovelling behind closed doors in order to stay in power be an indication that the vote may not be the plain sailing expected?

https://twitter.com/MichaelLCrick/status/1072853959784755201?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1072853959784755201&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.theguardian.com%2Fpolitics%2Flive%2F2018%2Fdec%2F12%2Ftory-mps-trigger-vote-of-no-confidence-in-may-amid-brexit-uncertainty-politics-live

I said that earlier - I wouldn't put anything past these tories.

They're a bunch of back-stabbing, disloyal, unethical and hypocritical rich boys and girls. They'll do anything to look after themselves, honesty is not one of their strong points and if they need to lie about who their supporting to save their career they'll do that.

MP has now spoke to Sky News confirming that he believes that his fellow MPs are liars and actually not supporting TM despite saying so publicly.

https://twitter.com/MelHand_Teacher/status/1072935610241949698

(saw it myself but showing a tweet from public to add credibility)

Water John wrote: »

Anything near that 130 against prediction would be very bad for her, totally lame duck.

Would be a bigger mandate than they is for Brexit.

Watch the ERG say she has no mandate if she only gets 60-40 in her favour, being the same people who claim 52-48 is a clear mandate.