Liverpool FC Team Talk/Gossip/Rumours 2018

Knex* · 12-12-2018 12:58PM

FitzShane wrote: »

Top of the league.
Unbeaten.
Top scorer in the league.
Best defence in the league.
Through to the last 16 of the CL.

Pretty nice place to be as a Liverpool fan right now.

Worst fans in the world, too.

5starpool · 12-12-2018 01:00PM

I think with the ref it was more a case of him giving fouls for things that wouldn't be fouls in the PL, so the age old problem really. I wouldn't say he was bad or worse for one team over the other, just a bit more finicky about things than we'd be used to. In terms of injury time, he should perhaps have added more in the 2nd half as he blew at about 93:58 when we had been time wasting in injury time too, and Robertson was even booked in injury time for time wasting, but nothing else was added on thankfully.

Osmosis Jones · 12-12-2018 01:04PM

The one call from the ref that really annoyed me was when Ospina jumped for the ball, made a complete mess of it, and got bailed out with a free kick despite nobody touching him. Especially seeing that after the effort Alisson put in to challenge for the ball with his header at the weekend, feels kinda pointless knowing that even if he made a complete mess of it the ref would probably just give a free out for no reason.

BullBlackNova · 12-12-2018 01:08PM

Osmosis Jones wrote: »

The one call from the ref that really annoyed me was when Ospina jumped for the ball, made a complete mess of it, and got bailed out with a free kick despite nobody touching him. Especially seeing that after the effort Alisson put in to challenge for the ball with his header at the weekend, feels kinda pointless knowing that even if he made a complete mess of it the ref would probably just give a free out for no reason.

Was that the one where Mané was penalised? Replay shows the goalie straining to get to the ball, Maksimovic blocking his route and Mané standing in front of Maksimovic, lining up the ball.

Never a foul.

I mean, the way Mané was finishing last night, it wouldn't have mattered anyway but that 'foul' bothered me too!

SlickRic · 12-12-2018 01:09PM

that was the performance of a team that has big fúcking balls.

this team won't wilt.
this team has the right characters like VVD, Allisson, Mo and Bobby in order to get shít done.
this team is more balanced than I've seen it in my time as a fan, bar maybe a short period during Rafa's reign on 08/09.
this team is, simply put, a joy to support right now.

there are times in every football fan's life, where they have to support the team through thick and thin.
Through times where the club doesn't meet expectations.
Through times where the football is no fun to watch.
Through times where it is just a chore to watch a game.

enjoy how much fun it is to support the club right now. it won't always be this way.
there will come a time where rival fans will be able to legitimately take us down and ridicule us.
there will come a time where we're not as relevant as we are now.
there will come a time where we won't contend for the big trophies.

such is the circle of football life.

so fúck the haters.
fúck the begrudgers.
fúck those who try to belittle the run we're on.
fúck those who go 'where are your trophies?'.

yes, we've no trophies yet. yes, that will be an issue if it doesn't happen. yes, that is ultimately the yardstick for how good a team is. but fúck me, i'm enjoying being a fan right now.

on we go.

Agent Coulson · 12-12-2018 01:17PM

I said it last night this group of players and coaching team have toughened from the lose of the Champions League last season.

I think it might also been underestimated what Pep has brought to the coaching side instead of the brain.

DrumSteve · 12-12-2018 01:21PM

SlickRic wrote: »

that was the performance of a team that has big fúcking balls.

this team won't wilt.
this team has the right characters like VVD, Allisson, Mo and Bobby in order to get shdone.
this team is more balanced than I've seen it in my time as a fan, bar maybe a short period during Rafa's reign on 08/09.
this team is, simply put, a joy to support right now.

there are times in every football fan's life, where they have to support the team through thick and thin.
Through times where the club doesn't meet expectations.
Through times where the football is no fun to watch.
Through times where it is just a chore to watch a game.

enjoy how much fun it is to support the club right now. it won't always be this way.
there will come a time where rival fans will be able to legitimately take us down and ridicule us.
there will come a time where we're not as relevant as we are now.
there will come a time where we won't contend for the big trophies.

such is the circle of football life.

so fúck the haters.
fúck the begrudgers.
fúck those who try to belittle the run we're on.
fúck those who go 'where are your trophies?'.

yes, we've no trophies yet. yes, that will be an issue if it doesn't happen. yes, that is ultimately the yardstick for how good a team is. but fúck me, i'm enjoying being a fan right now.

on we go.

yourdeadwright · 12-12-2018 01:21PM

Fingers crossed Trent makes the weekend, We could really do with him not being out now ,

Osmosis Jones · 12-12-2018 01:33PM

BullBlackNova wrote: »

Was that the one where Manas penalised? Replay shows the goalie straining to get to the ball, Maksimovic blocking his route and Mantanding in front of Maksimovic, lining up the ball.

Never a foul.

I mean, the way Manas finishing last night, it wouldn't have mattered anyway but that 'foul' bothered me too!

Yeah all this says is that players aren't even allowed near a goalkeeper when he jumps for the ball, only way not to foul is to run away apparently.

niallo27 · 12-12-2018 01:35PM

SlickRic wrote: »

that was the performance of a team that has big fúcking balls.

this team won't wilt.
this team has the right characters like VVD, Allisson, Mo and Bobby in order to get shdone.
this team is more balanced than I've seen it in my time as a fan, bar maybe a short period during Rafa's reign on 08/09.
this team is, simply put, a joy to support right now.

there are times in every football fan's life, where they have to support the team through thick and thin.
Through times where the club doesn't meet expectations.
Through times where the football is no fun to watch.
Through times where it is just a chore to watch a game.

enjoy how much fun it is to support the club right now. it won't always be this way.
there will come a time where rival fans will be able to legitimately take us down and ridicule us.
there will come a time where we're not as relevant as we are now.
there will come a time where we won't contend for the big trophies.

such is the circle of football life.

so fúck the haters.
fúck the begrudgers.
fúck those who try to belittle the run we're on.
fúck those who go 'where are your trophies?'.

yes, we've no trophies yet. yes, that will be an issue if it doesn't happen. yes, that is ultimately the yardstick for how good a team is. but fúck me, i'm enjoying being a fan right now.

on we go.

Yessssss. **** em all. Shower of *****. I'm off to smash something.

Sofa Spud · 12-12-2018 01:40PM

yourdeadwright wrote: »

Fingers crossed Trent makes the weekend, We could really do with him not being out now ,

Yeah, not great timing but at least there's Millie as an option.

One of the many things that I love about Klopp is that other manager's mind games are like water off a ducks back to him and he just laughs them off - but I'd love to see him psych Jose out in his presser. Everyone is expecting Jose to park the bus, so would love to see Klopp, when asked about what he's expecting about the match, to say something along the lines of 'the team and fans are really looking forward to the game and I have a lot of respect for Jose and how his defensive formations can make it hard for other teams. It's a shame that we won't see a flowing, courageous game of football, but I have to respect Jose if that's what he feels is best for his boys'. Or words to that effect. Maybe I'm just a dreamer.... Can't wait for Sunday, momentum is with us, the team spirit is unbreakable and it impossible not to get excited....

yourdeadwright · 12-12-2018 01:46PM

Sofa Spud wrote: »

Yeah, not great timing but at least there's Millie as an option.

One of the many things that I love about Klopp is that other manager's mind games are like water off a ducks back to him and he just laughs them off - but I'd love to see him psych Jose out in his presser. Everyone is expecting Jose to park the bus, so would love to see Klopp, when asked about what he's expecting about the match, to say something along the lines of 'the team and fans are really looking forward to the game and I have a lot of respect for Jose and how his defensive formations can make it hard for other teams. It's a shame that we won't see a flowing, courageous game of football, but I have to respect Jose if that's what he feels is best for his boys'. Or words to that effect. Maybe I'm just a dreamer.... Can't wait for Sunday, momentum is with us, the team spirit is unbreakable and it impossible not to get excited....

Don't forget Millie went off with crap , and he's no spring chicken ,
it would have been great to have Gomez at right full for this as they will be playing balls long ,

Agent Coulson · 12-12-2018 01:48PM

Also lets not forget Milner was probably the worst Liverpool player on the pitch playing right back at the weekend.

Sofa Spud · 12-12-2018 01:50PM

yourdeadwright wrote: »

Don't forget Millie went off with crap , and he's no spring chicken ,
it would have been great to have Gomez at right full for this as they will be playing balls long ,

Is Millie carrying a knock? Any option if Trent is out and we know Joe is out will not be ideal, but Millie can patrol his zone and let Robbo push forward. If Fab starts then he can be the defensive 6 and make sure that side is protected. But yeah, agreed, it's not perfect but not too worried if Millie isn't carrying anything.

SlickRic · 12-12-2018 01:51PM

niallo27 wrote: »

Yessssss. **** em all. Shower of *****. I'm off to smash something.

we may as fúcking well.

before you know it, we may be irrelevant again, so you have to enjoy this while it lasts.

DrumSteve · 12-12-2018 01:52PM

Agent Coulson wrote: »

Also lets not forget Milner was probably the worst Liverpool player on the pitch playing right back at the weekend.

Surely Fabinho can cover there.

Sofa Spud · 12-12-2018 02:00PM

DrumSteve wrote: »

Surely Fabinho can cover there.

That's where he typically starts when playing for Brazil, but Klopp started Millie at RB and Fab in the 6 at Bournemouth, so he may do the same again.

Ok, so just looked on physioroom, they have TAA (knock on his foot) and Millie (cramps) as slight doubts and Matip (shoulder) as a major doubt - but they all seem to be based on comments made directly after the match, so hopefully they're all minor and are fit for selection. Looks like Clyne is definitely not an option, so yeah, maybe Fab might end up at RB.

LuckyLloyd · 12-12-2018 02:02PM

Slick gets it. I'm quite enjoying our enemies slithering around in the background with snide pops about "emotion" just desperate to hail the first fatal blow to our season. Anything better than talking about their own club and manager of course.

These are heady days. It's only the first phase of the season of course, but it's going spectacularly well and people need to sit back and enjoy the ride. It may end in disappointment of course, but we went years with nothing to get particularly hopeful or disappointed by. Last night was a gritty victory in the end but in truth what was most positive about it was the outright dominance we enjoyed throughout. Chance after chance after chance created off the back of a suffocating midfield performance. That was a tough group but we're through it and marching onwards towards the spring. Glorious.

SlickRic · 12-12-2018 02:04PM

injuries will come. they generally have to when you're playing as many high pressure, must win games as we are. remember, there is no let up in the League. if we lose, City will likely win. there is no room for error. the fight at the top of the league right now is unprecedented in terms of 2 teams winning pretty much every game. there are a couple of teams who i think have had better starts, but it's always just one team, so you can sort of relax. we don't have that luxury.

City have lost KDB, Silva and Aguero.
Liverpool have lost Gomez, Ox, Keita for a while earlier, and now maybe Trent.

the squad is essential. Christmas is ridiculous. you can't get away from injuries because the players simply aren't machines. the body does give up under the pressure of intense competition.

we know City's squad can cover (though no KDB AND Silva was an issue in the 2nd half against Chelsea), but it'll be interesting to see if Liverpool's can. that is why I can't wait to see where we are come February.

SuperTortoise · 12-12-2018 02:06PM

retalivity wrote: »

Who is 5th choice cb? Masterson?

Thought he looked decent enough in pre season.

gafferino · 12-12-2018 02:08PM

SlickRic wrote: »

we may as fúcking well.

before you know it, we may be irrelevant again, so you have to enjoy this while it lasts.

That may happen, but I think FSG have the club in a very good position in a global sense commercially and the team is in great shape in terms of investment and long term contracts etc (Michael Edwards is phenomenal and too often over looked for the outstanding job he is doing).

I can see us staying relevant much more than we were when the club failed to adapt to the new commercial models.

I envisage a sale of the club to a Middle East/Chines group in the next 5 years tbh.

gimli2112 · 12-12-2018 02:09PM

I'm in two minds about the draw on Monday. While conventional wisdom says stay away from the better teams I'm always more apprehensive when we draw a lesser light.

In theory we have a better chance over two legs with one at Anfield than a one off game, assuming our away form picks up. TBH I think any of the English teams would be a challenge in the round after.

facehugger99 · 12-12-2018 02:47PM

With this current crop of injuries - what is the order of importance of Liverpool players when it comes to availability. Taking into account back-up options available.

Mine is;

1) VVD
2) Salah
3) Alisson
4) Robertson
5) Firmino
6) Gomez
7) Mane
8) TAA
9) Wijnaldum
10) Shaq
11) Milner

SlickRic · 12-12-2018 02:58PM

LuckyLloyd wrote: »

That was a tough group but we're through it and marching onwards towards the spring. Glorious.

this is the other hilarious thing.

in the last 24 hours, Napoli have gone from being more than capable of beating us, to nothing like last year, and furthermore, the group was now a simple one that should've been a cakewalk.

i'm absolutely loving it.

imagine what would happen if we actually started winning trophies :eek:

gimli2112 · 12-12-2018 02:59PM

Just hit the New Posts tab and this thread was top of the list, just like the premier league.

In my excitement I forgot to post the DM gave Robertson 6.5 out of 10 for last night, bit harsh.

Knex* · 12-12-2018 03:09PM

LuckyLloyd wrote: »

Slick gets it. I'm quite enjoying our enemies slithering around in the background with snide pops about "emotion" just desperate to hail the first fatal blow to our season. Anything better than talking about their own club and manager of course.

These are heady days. It's only the first phase of the season of course, but it's going spectacularly well and people need to sit back and enjoy the ride. It may end in disappointment of course, but we went years with nothing to get particularly hopeful or disappointed by. Last night was a gritty victory in the end but in truth what was most positive about it was the outright dominance we enjoyed throughout. Chance after chance after chance created off the back of a suffocating midfield performance. That was a tough group but we're through it and marching onwards towards the spring. Glorious.

Stop. Sure the United cavalry were out in force in the match thread and beyond, gleefully expecting Liverpool to be knocked out.

Added an extra layer of icing to the whole thing knowing how they had front row seats to see yet again how good a team this Liverpool side is. They ****ing wish it was them, and that's glorious.

Harry Palmr · 12-12-2018 03:12PM

It's remarkable how many good sides Liverpool manages to beat cos they were rubbish. I'm sure there is a common denominator if only we could spot it.

rob316 · 12-12-2018 03:35PM

New kid on the way and I can't decide on whether to call him Virgil, Andy or Alisson

dogbert27 · 12-12-2018 03:37PM

rob316 wrote: »

New kid on the way and I can't decide on whether to call him Virgil, Andy or Alisson

Call him Vanalisson.

x43r0 · 12-12-2018 03:39PM

rob316 wrote: »

New kid on the way and I can't decide on whether to call him Virgil, Andy or Alisson

dogbert27 wrote: »

Call him Vanalisson.

Good thing Moreno's form hasn't improved or you'd be in danger of calling him Van Morisson :eek:

Liverpool FC Team Talk/Gossip/Rumours 2018

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