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Who'd live in a house like this? Part 2

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    #1142
    [Deleted User]
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    Interested Observer wrote: »
    Explain, what exactly does it show that's wrong with the country?
    The very fact that such a grotty house, that the best thing to do with would be to bulldoze and rebuild is priced at half a million euros. Really brings into focus the lack of affordable housing there is in this country.

    Of course, the beneficiaries of these high prices are sitting pretty, while others are paying hundreds a month for a bunk bed in a shared house in the city due to the lack of affordable accommodation.
    I wonder how many bunk beds a slumlord could fit into that garage.


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    #1143
    Graces7
    Registered Users Posts: 32,634 ✭✭✭✭Graces7


    Graces7 wrote: »
    saw one house that had what looked like a well wrapped body on the floor!.

    See

    https://www.daft.ie/leitrim/houses-for-sale/dromod/dromodbeg-dromod-leitrim-1939614/

    photo 8...


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    #1144
    Thargor
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    Deleted User wrote: »
    The very fact that such a grotty house, that the best thing to do with would be to bulldoze and rebuild is priced at half a million euros. Really brings into focus the lack of affordable housing there is in this country.

    Of course, the beneficiaries of these high prices are sitting pretty, while others are paying hundreds a month for a bunk bed in a shared house in the city due to the lack of affordable accommodation.
    I wonder how many bunk beds a slumlord could fit into that garage.
    Its not even that 'grotty' though, it's just dated. Paint and new carpets would modernise most of it, a new bathroom and a few trips to Woodies and IKEA would sort the rest. Anyone handy with DIY could make a big return on their investment or have one of the nicer family homes in town for not a whole lot higher than the build cost of a place that size plus the site, you're within short walking distance of O Connels St and the IFSC / Google docks there, it's really not as bad as you're making out.

    Im always watching Bray prices and its not far off them tbh.


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    #1145
    BattleCorp
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    Thargor wrote: »
    Its not even that 'grotty' though, it's just dated. Paint and new carpets would modernise most of it, a new bathroom and a few trips to Woodies and IKEA would sort the rest. Anyone handy with DIY could make a big return on their investment or have one of the nicer family homes in town for not a whole lot higher than the build cost of a place that size plus the site, you're within short walking distance of O Connels St and the IFSC / Google docks there, it's really not as bad as you're making out.

    Im always watching Bray prices and its not far off them tbh.


    Paint won't get rid of that damp.


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    #1146
    BBFAN
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    HeidiHeidi wrote: »
    Location, location, location. And off-street parking, both outdoor and indoor.


    The house itself is the least of that deal.

    Dublin 8 includes Dolphins Barn amongst other gems. You really think it's a desirable location?


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    #1147
    HeidiHeidi
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    BBFAN wrote: »
    Dublin 8 includes Dolphins Barn amongst other gems. You really think it's a desirable location?
    Dolphin's Barn (which I live quite close to, as it happens :rolleyes:) is the other end of Dublin 8 from the advertised house. Do you actually know where it is? It's a very trendy, desirable location.


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    #1148
    BBFAN
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    HeidiHeidi wrote: »
    Dolphin's Barn (which I live quite close to, as it happens :rolleyes:) is the other end of Dublin 8 from the advertised house. Do you actually know where it is? It's a very trendy, desirable location.

    Do I know where it is? That's where I'm from. :rolleyes: and there's nothing trendy or desirable about it.


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    #1149
    HeidiHeidi
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    BBFAN wrote: »
    Do I know where it is? That's where I'm from. :rolleyes: and there's nothing trendy or desirable about it.
    Well there clearly is, if they're pitching a house which needs a lot of work at that price!


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    #1150
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    HeidiHeidi wrote: »
    Well there clearly is, if they're pitching a house which needs a lot of work at that price!
    The asking price is just an expectation, if there's a lot of interest, buyers can outbid eachother and the price goes up and none the sellers have to drop the price until someone buys, or take it off the maket.


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    #1151
    Thargor
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    BattleCorp wrote: »
    Paint won't get rid of that damp.
    No but running a dehumidifier and a bit of basic DIY will, then repaint, still yet to see anyone post what they think the price should be for a house that size in that location should be...


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    #1152
    HeidiHeidi
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    Deleted User wrote: »
    The asking price is just an expectation, if there's a lot of interest, buyers can outbid eachother and the price goes up and none the sellers have to drop the price until someone buys, or take it off the maket.
    My guess is the former in this case.


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    #1153
    Graces7
    Registered Users Posts: 32,634 ✭✭✭✭Graces7


    And if your life is lacking colour? Cavan has the ideal home...

    https://www.daft.ie/cavan/houses-for-sale/virginia/cliffin-virginia-cavan-1807502/


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    #1154
    Graces7
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    Thargor wrote: »
    No but running a dehumidifier and a bit of basic DIY will, then repaint, still yet to see anyone post what they think the price should be for a house that size in that location should be...

    That damp means leaks. Rebuilding needed.


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    #1155
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    HeidiHeidi wrote: »
    My guess is the former in this case.
    You're probably right, someone will buy it slap on a bit of paint and fill it with bunk beds.


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    #1156
    Thargor
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    Graces7 wrote: »
    That damp means leaks. Rebuilding needed.
    Lol, wrong.


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    #1157
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    Thargor wrote: »
    Lol, wrong.
    Is it your place, you really seem to like it. :p


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    #1158
    Tordelback
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    [Deleted User] wrote: »
    The asking price is just an expectation, if there's a lot of interest, buyers can outbid eachother and the price goes up and none the sellers have to drop the price until someone buys, or take it off the maket.

    I'd be surprised if it didn't exceed that asking price. If I had the (any!) dosh I'd be tempted - so much room to play with, just off the South Circular!


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    #1159
    fritzelly
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    Graces7 wrote: »
    And if your life is lacking colour? Cavan has the ideal home...

    https://www.daft.ie/cavan/houses-for-sale/virginia/cliffin-virginia-cavan-1807502/

    Woodies must have had a very good sale on all their odd pots of paint and wallpaper rolls.


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    #1160
    Interested Observer
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    Deleted User wrote: »
    The very fact that such a grotty house, that the best thing to do with would be to bulldoze and rebuild is priced at half a million euros. Really brings into focus the lack of affordable housing there is in this country.

    Of course, the beneficiaries of these high prices are sitting pretty, while others are paying hundreds a month for a bunk bed in a shared house in the city due to the lack of affordable accommodation.
    I wonder how many bunk beds a slumlord could fit into that garage.

    Have you viewed the house or had a survey done on it? Are you a house builder? What puts you in position to say the best thing for it is to be knocked down? Do you think a 'slumlord' is going to go through that effort?

    I really think you're totally missing the point of why it's valued as it is. Location, potential, the land, the size, etc. It being grotty is neither here nor there, you can fix that. Nobody buys a house for the decor.


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    #1161
    ButtersSuki
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    retalivity wrote: »
    https://www.daft.ie/dublin/houses-for-sale/dublin-8/19-greenville-avenue-dublin-8-dublin-1937257/

    Wood panelled room - check
    Crazy retro style bathroom design - check
    carpets & damp everywhere - check check check

    I can't understand the hate for this. This is a developer's dream and there is so much potential with this that I'd be astonished if it sells for asking.

    You could remodel, revamp and rent in a very short period of time

    Or, given the site space, you could do the above and simultaneously apply for planning to get a second dwelling on that site, the A and B property address types.

    Or knock/amend the existing property and add property No. 2 on the site.

    I'd imagine it would be difficult (given planning laws) to fully knock the existing property but that's also an option I guess.

    If I had the capital right now I would give that site serious consideration.


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    #1162
    Deebles McBeebles
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    Remember when houses were bought by owner occupiers. Good times.


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    #1163
    ButtersSuki
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    Deebles McBeebles wrote: »
    Remember when houses were bought by owner occupiers. Good times.

    Yes. And that was an absolutely perfect system.......:rolleyes:

    Taking one of my suggestions from the last post, if someone built 2 properties on that site and sold them would you still have an objection to it?


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    #1164
    Deebles McBeebles
    Registered Users Posts: 5,749 ✭✭✭Deebles McBeebles


    ButtersSuki wrote: »
    Yes. And that was an absolutely perfect system.......:rolleyes:

    It worked far better than what is going on these days.....:rolleyes:
    ButtersSuki wrote: »
    Taking one of my suggestions from the last post, if someone built 2 properties on that site and sold them would you still have an objection to it?

    No objection as long as they are bought by owner occupiers and not yet another opportunistic landlord who will fleece people for as much as possible.


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    #1165
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    Interested Observer wrote: »
    Have you viewed the house or had a survey done on it? Are you a house builder? What puts you in position to say the best thing for it is to be knocked down? Do you think a 'slumlord' is going to go through that effort?

    I really think you're totally missing the point of why it's valued as it is. Location, potential, the land, the size, etc. It being grotty is neither here nor there, you can fix that. Nobody buys a house for the decor.
    I've built one house for what it's worth.
    Because of it's "prime location" the best thing would be for an ambitious developer to come in and buy the whole street and replace them all with a couple of genuinely (not Celtic tiger poop) high quality blocks of flats for rent. Thus providing accommodation for far more families, couples & singles than the current housing on the same footprint.


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    #1166
    ButtersSuki
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    Deebles McBeebles wrote: »
    It worked far better than what is going on these days.....:rolleyes:



    No objection as long as they are bought by owner occupiers and not yet another opportunistic landlord who will fleece people for as much as possible.

    Not all landlords are like this.


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    #1167
    skooterblue2
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    Graces7 wrote: »
    And if your life is lacking colour? Cavan has the ideal home...

    https://www.daft.ie/cavan/houses-for-sale/virginia/cliffin-virginia-cavan-1807502/

    Ohhhh what a site for a Meth Lab!!!! No neighbours, discrete, developing forrestry, wide open fresh air. Jessie Pinkertons dream


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    #1168
    Graces7
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    and how about this for a fixer upper?

    https://www.daft.ie/kilkenny/houses-for-sale/castlecomer/the-laundry-house-castlecomer-kilkenny-1614500/


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    #1169
    Graces7
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    skooterblue2 wrote: »
    Ohhhh what a site for a Meth Lab!!!! No neighbours, discrete, developing forrestry, wide open fresh air. Jessie Pinkertons dream

    from the colour "scheme" it already has been !


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    #1170
    Deebles McBeebles
    Registered Users Posts: 5,749 ✭✭✭Deebles McBeebles


    Graces7 wrote: »
    and how about this for a fixer upper?

    https://www.daft.ie/kilkenny/houses-for-sale/castlecomer/the-laundry-house-castlecomer-kilkenny-1614500/

    I quite like that one. Would need massive amounts of work though obviously.


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    #1171
    tara73
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    Graces7 wrote: »
    and how about this for a fixer upper?

    https://www.daft.ie/kilkenny/houses-for-sale/castlecomer/the-laundry-house-castlecomer-kilkenny-1614500/

    100.000 for a site... most probably not allowed to demolish as it's listed...close to a million to rebuild this sh***.

    woa, what a money grave..


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