Brexit discussion thread V - No Pic/GIF dumps please

Rjd2 · 10-12-2018 04:34PM

flatty wrote: »

May will announce that she is stable and strong, and going back to the EU to assert her authority. The question is, whether she can dress whatever twaddle she comes back with in new enough clothes to mask the fact that it's still a crash test dummy. I doubt it, but it's her final throw of the dice. She is absolutely desperate to be pm at the time of brexit. It is her raison d'etre. That's it.

The problem is even if somehow she gets everything she wanted (she won't) the ERG mob will just say "why did you not sort that last month?" and Jez will just say "election please".

She is ****ed basically.

theguzman · 10-12-2018 04:37PM

The EU won't budge one inch, a hard brexit is looking very likely. I can see her coming back to London like Margaret Thatcher and suddenly siding with the Brexiteers. It will be great to see the UK show the EU they won't be bullied by them. The don't do negotiating or deals it is take it or leave it from them.

UsBus · 10-12-2018 04:42PM

Listening to PMs speech on LBC.....The embarrassment of it all

She asked "Does the house want to deliver a successful Brexit..?" To which they cheered "Nooooo"..........

2ygb4cmqetsjhx · 10-12-2018 04:43PM

Listening to Theresa May. Not really sure what she is saying. Many contradictions.

Hurrache · 10-12-2018 04:44PM

Unless she just hasn't got to it yet, but I don't know what the point of her speech is.

10-12-2018 04:44PM

Jayde Incalculable Firearm wrote: »

Listening to Theresa May. Not really sure what she is saying. Many contradictions.

Some amount of heckling!

lawred2 · 10-12-2018 04:45PM

UsBus wrote: »

Listening to PMs speech on LBC.....The embarrassment of it all

She asked "Does the house want to deliver a successful Brexit..?" To which they cheered "Nooooo"..........

ahahaha

4068ac1elhodqr · 10-12-2018 04:46PM

It would appear from the laughter across their parliment (not from May herself), they have very little interest in the border area, or for that matter the North itself.

Nirexit and even Scotexit {more likely}, (from the uk) could probably solve that inconvenience for them.

badtoro · 10-12-2018 04:49PM

theguzman wrote: »

The EU won't budge one inch

Speaking as an Irishman, a farmer, and an EU citizen, nor should they budge.

The UK need to own their nonsense. They want to leave, goodbye.

UsBus · 10-12-2018 04:49PM

Having listened to her speech, (complete rambling) it really looks like she is going through the motions to buy time.. I really think she doesn't care now, she just wants to get Brexit through, get to March 29th and take off into the sunset... it's cringing what they are at now...

LuckyLloyd · 10-12-2018 04:50PM

theguzman wrote: »

The EU won't budge one inch, a hard brexit is looking very likely. I can see her coming back to London like Margaret Thatcher and suddenly siding with the Brexiteers. It will be great to see the UK show the EU they won't be bullied by them. The don't do negotiating or deals it is take it or leave it from them.

:rolleyes:

Terms like "bullying" are so inappropriate, but we live in an era of emotional language I suppose. The right words are "leverage", "negotiation", "incentives".

briany · 10-12-2018 04:54PM

UK trying to exit the EU is like that episode of the Simpsons where Homer got his arm stuck in the vending machine, and it turned out that he was really just holding on to the soda can the whole time.

Water John · 10-12-2018 04:54PM

Bercow giving the Govn't a bollocking. He basically demands the Govn't put the motion to postpone the vote to the House.

Tropheus · 10-12-2018 04:55PM

theguzman wrote: »

The EU won't budge one inch, a hard brexit is looking very likely. I can see her coming back to London like Margaret Thatcher and suddenly siding with the Brexiteers. It will be great to see the UK show the EU they won't be bullied by them. The don't do negotiating or deals it is take it or leave it from them.

Trade is a numbers game. The UK has little or no leverage here.

Nody · 10-12-2018 04:56PM

UsBus wrote: »

Having listened to her speech, (complete rambling) it really looks like she is going through the motions to buy time.. I really think she doesn't care now, she just wants to get Brexit through, get to March 29th and take off into the sunset... it's cringing what they are at now...

Honestly I expect her to contest any leadership contest even after March 29th; the claim will be to "Make sure UK comes out best possible", "Not abandoning duty in UKs darkest hour" etc. The scary part is she's likely to have a good chance of winning as well seeing who her opponents are...

2ygb4cmqetsjhx · 10-12-2018 04:56PM

1€ = 0,91£ just now after the speech and still going down. Theresa May shouldn't talk.

briany · 10-12-2018 04:57PM

Who's the guy on Ken Clarke's right side. Looks like the kind of guy who possibly still owns slaves.

devnull · 10-12-2018 04:58PM

Bercow now suggesting that there should be a vote on delaying the vote.

Gotta laugh really at how silly this is becoming.

Mr.Nice Guy · 10-12-2018 04:59PM

Sensible contribution from Ken Clarke, saying it's folly that the British could have a unilateral right to end the open border, which is why a backstop is necessary.

DrumSteve · 10-12-2018 05:00PM

devnull wrote: »

Bercow now suggesting that there should be a vote on delaying the vote.

Gotta laugh really at how silly this is becoming.

TBF Bercow is probably the best speaker they have had in years so they should listen to him.

branie2 · 10-12-2018 05:00PM

Getting worse by the minute

BonnieSituation · 10-12-2018 05:00PM

Mr.Nice Guy wrote: »

Sensible contribution from Ken Clarke, saying it's folly that the British could have a unilateral right to end the open border, which is why a backstop is necessary.

Imagine if he'd been leader instead of Howard...

UsBus · 10-12-2018 05:01PM

Jayde Incalculable Firearm wrote: »

1€ = 0,91£ just now after the speech and still going down. Theresa May shouldn't talk.

Just seen this now alright....Wondering if I should order some sterling this eve...

Kiith · 10-12-2018 05:03PM

I wish they'd stop with this right honourable bull****.

Rjd2 · 10-12-2018 05:04PM

BonnieSituation wrote: »

Imagine if he'd been leader instead of Howard...

Didn't he lose to IDM also? Looking back that was a huge miss for them, although to be fair Clarke iirc did run a pretty shoddy campaign.

Shelga · 10-12-2018 05:05PM

Why does the speaker of the house always bellow so theatrically like that?? Does my head in. “PRIME MINISTEEEEEEEEER!!!”

Water John · 10-12-2018 05:05PM

Bercow is embarrassing the Govn't into having a vote.

4068ac1elhodqr · 10-12-2018 05:06PM

Imagine even the Ulster Farmers on the orange hills of East Antrim,
will be starting to look through investment brochures of lucrative, stable, cattle farming
way over in Argentina, before this charade is played out.

lawred2 · 10-12-2018 05:07PM

Shelga wrote: »

Why does the speaker of the house always bellow so theatrically like that?? Does my head in. “PRIME MINISTEEEEEEEEER!!!”

just parlour games to a lot of these lads

Laois_Man · 10-12-2018 05:07PM

May has given a strong hint there that she wants to effectively cut N. Ireland adrift

Brexit discussion thread V - No Pic/GIF dumps please

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