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Brexit discussion thread V - No Pic/GIF dumps please

Rhineshark

kuro68k wrote: »

The British government is going to take it right to the cliff edge and hope that someone else compromises. Of course they have their excuses already lined up if no-one does, only real question is who they will blame.

1. The EU
2. Remainers
3. Ireland
4. Corbyn

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Rjd2

flatty wrote: »

May will announce that she is stable and strong, and going back to the EU to assert her authority. The question is, whether she can dress whatever twaddle she comes back with in new enough clothes to mask the fact that it's still a crash test dummy. I doubt it, but it's her final throw of the dice. She is absolutely desperate to be pm at the time of brexit. It is her raison d'etre. That's it.

The problem is even if somehow she gets everything she wanted (she won't) the ERG mob will just say "why did you not sort that last month?" and Jez will just say "election please".

She is ****ed basically.

theguzman

The EU won't budge one inch, a hard brexit is looking very likely. I can see her coming back to London like Margaret Thatcher and suddenly siding with the Brexiteers. It will be great to see the UK show the EU they won't be bullied by them. The don't do negotiating or deals it is take it or leave it from them.

UsBus

Listening to PMs speech on LBC.....The embarrassment of it all

She asked "Does the house want to deliver a successful Brexit..?" To which they cheered "Nooooo"..........

2ygb4cmqetsjhx

Listening to Theresa May. Not really sure what she is saying. Many contradictions.

Hurrache

Unless she just hasn't got to it yet, but I don't know what the point of her speech is.

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Jayde Incalculable Firearm wrote: »

Listening to Theresa May. Not really sure what she is saying. Many contradictions.

Some amount of heckling!

lawred2

UsBus wrote: »

Listening to PMs speech on LBC.....The embarrassment of it all

She asked "Does the house want to deliver a successful Brexit..?" To which they cheered "Nooooo"..........

ahahaha

4068ac1elhodqr

It would appear from the laughter across their parliment (not from May herself), they have very little interest in the border area, or for that matter the North itself.

Nirexit and even Scotexit {more likely}, (from the uk) could probably solve that inconvenience for them.

badtoro

theguzman wrote: »

The EU won't budge one inch

Speaking as an Irishman, a farmer, and an EU citizen, nor should they budge.

The UK need to own their nonsense. They want to leave, goodbye.

UsBus

Having listened to her speech, (complete rambling) it really looks like she is going through the motions to buy time.. I really think she doesn't care now, she just wants to get Brexit through, get to March 29th and take off into the sunset... it's cringing what they are at now...

LuckyLloyd

theguzman wrote: »

The EU won't budge one inch, a hard brexit is looking very likely. I can see her coming back to London like Margaret Thatcher and suddenly siding with the Brexiteers. It will be great to see the UK show the EU they won't be bullied by them. The don't do negotiating or deals it is take it or leave it from them.

:rolleyes:

Terms like "bullying" are so inappropriate, but we live in an era of emotional language I suppose. The right words are "leverage", "negotiation", "incentives".

briany

UK trying to exit the EU is like that episode of the Simpsons where Homer got his arm stuck in the vending machine, and it turned out that he was really just holding on to the soda can the whole time.

Water John

Bercow giving the Govn't a bollocking. He basically demands the Govn't put the motion to postpone the vote to the House.

Tropheus

theguzman wrote: »

The EU won't budge one inch, a hard brexit is looking very likely. I can see her coming back to London like Margaret Thatcher and suddenly siding with the Brexiteers. It will be great to see the UK show the EU they won't be bullied by them. The don't do negotiating or deals it is take it or leave it from them.

Trade is a numbers game. The UK has little or no leverage here.

Nody

UsBus wrote: »

Having listened to her speech, (complete rambling) it really looks like she is going through the motions to buy time.. I really think she doesn't care now, she just wants to get Brexit through, get to March 29th and take off into the sunset... it's cringing what they are at now...

Honestly I expect her to contest any leadership contest even after March 29th; the claim will be to "Make sure UK comes out best possible", "Not abandoning duty in UKs darkest hour" etc. The scary part is she's likely to have a good chance of winning as well seeing who her opponents are...

2ygb4cmqetsjhx

1€ = 0,91£ just now after the speech and still going down. Theresa May shouldn't talk.

briany

Who's the guy on Ken Clarke's right side. Looks like the kind of guy who possibly still owns slaves.

devnull

Bercow now suggesting that there should be a vote on delaying the vote.

Gotta laugh really at how silly this is becoming.

Mr.Nice Guy

Sensible contribution from Ken Clarke, saying it's folly that the British could have a unilateral right to end the open border, which is why a backstop is necessary.

DrumSteve

devnull wrote: »

Bercow now suggesting that there should be a vote on delaying the vote.

Gotta laugh really at how silly this is becoming.

TBF Bercow is probably the best speaker they have had in years so they should listen to him.

branie2

Getting worse by the minute

BonnieSituation

Mr.Nice Guy wrote: »

Sensible contribution from Ken Clarke, saying it's folly that the British could have a unilateral right to end the open border, which is why a backstop is necessary.

Imagine if he'd been leader instead of Howard...

UsBus

Jayde Incalculable Firearm wrote: »

1€ = 0,91£ just now after the speech and still going down. Theresa May shouldn't talk.

Just seen this now alright....Wondering if I should order some sterling this eve...

Kiith

I wish they'd stop with this right honourable bull****.

Rjd2

BonnieSituation wrote: »

Imagine if he'd been leader instead of Howard...

Didn't he lose to IDM also? Looking back that was a huge miss for them, although to be fair Clarke iirc did run a pretty shoddy campaign.

Shelga

Why does the speaker of the house always bellow so theatrically like that?? Does my head in. “PRIME MINISTEEEEEEEEER!!!”

Water John

Bercow is embarrassing the Govn't into having a vote.

4068ac1elhodqr

Imagine even the Ulster Farmers on the orange hills of East Antrim,
will be starting to look through investment brochures of lucrative, stable, cattle farming
way over in Argentina, before this charade is played out.

lawred2

Shelga wrote: »

Why does the speaker of the house always bellow so theatrically like that?? Does my head in. “PRIME MINISTEEEEEEEEER!!!”

just parlour games to a lot of these lads

Laois_Man

May has given a strong hint there that she wants to effectively cut N. Ireland adrift