Second Captains

Say Your Number · 05-12-2018 05:02AM

Ken talking about the Ballon D'or ceremony was some much needed light relief after hearing about the Aaron Hernandez case.

dulux99 · 05-12-2018 04:29PM

Sorry if this has been asked before guys but does anyone have hassle with the world service on pocketcasts? Only recently moved over to pocketcasts and the podcasts don't show up instantly when they're uploaded for me. Usually when they go up on the patron page they'd be on my old app fairly instantly but doesn't seem to be the case with pocketcasts

OldMrBrennan83 · 05-12-2018 04:35PM

Never an issue for me and I've always used Pocket Casts (as much of a pain in the hole as it is at the moment).

05-12-2018 07:29PM

Say Your Number wrote: »

Ken talking about the Ballon D'or ceremony was some much needed light relief after hearing about the Aaron Hernandez case.

decent podcast 5 or 6 parter about that -

gladiator aaron hernandez and football inc

(maybe that was mentioned on the 2nd captains - apols if was)

05-12-2018 07:32PM

Cienciano wrote: »

The whole "football man" and "I wouldn't listen to anything ken early said" is from Ken saying Pep is a great manager and the Dunphy and Giles saying he's rubbish. Similar to the stance they took with Ronaldo. Well, Giles definitely, tbh I'm not 100% on Dunphy but he normally agrees with Giles on these things.

But we're not football men and haven't played the game at the highest level, we wouldn't understand.

those eejits (Dunphy, Giles et al) tend to stick to their guns long after their stance has been proven to be ridiculous.

it was beyond a joke with Ronaldo until they finally grudgingly admitted he was a bit of a player.

they seem to prefer average players who are "good honest pros".

Dots1982 · 05-12-2018 08:09PM

glasso wrote: »

those eejits (Dunphy, Giles et al) tend to stick to their guns long after their stance has been proven to be ridiculous.

it was beyond a joke with Ronaldo until they finally grudgingly are he was a bit of a player.

they seem to prefer average players who are "good honest pros".

Ken said Real should get rid of Ronaldo 4 years ago. Among his many dodgy calls this is the worst.

dulux99 · 05-12-2018 08:16PM

glasso wrote: »

decent podcast 5 or 6 parter about that -

gladiator aaron hernandez and football inc

(maybe that was mentioned on the 2nd captains - apols if was)

Yeah that was the pod they covered on yesterday's show. I had listened to Gladiator over the last few weeks and to be honest the second captains review of it was basically taking all the juicy bits and cramming it into one interview. If someone listens to gladiator on the back of the second captains segment, I can't imagine it'll do much for you.

05-12-2018 08:41PM

dulux99 wrote: »

Yeah that was the pod they covered on yesterday's show. I had listened to Gladiator over the last few weeks and to be honest the second captains review of it was basically taking all the juicy bits and cramming it into one interview. If someone listens to gladiator on the back of the second captains segment, I can't imagine it'll do much for you.

I didn't think the last couple of episodes where they tried to link the murder to his football that injuries that good tbh.

dulux99 · 05-12-2018 08:55PM

glasso wrote: »

I didn't think the last couple of episodes where they tried to link the murder to his football that injuries that good tbh.

Me either. Nor did I like the "woe is him he was ashamed of being gay the poor thing" narritive

dulux99 · 05-12-2018 08:57PM

glasso wrote: »

I didn't think the last couple of episodes where they tried to link the murder to his football that injuries that good tbh.

In general it was a decent at best podcast. Wouldn't go out of my way to recommend it to someone.

05-12-2018 10:58PM

dulux99 wrote: »

In general it was a decent at best podcast. Wouldn't go out of my way to recommend it to someone.

did only say that it was decent

started off well enough with the early stuff with his dad etc.

but did defo go downhill with the concussion / brain stuff - not done convincingly and the way it was presented was boring.

Raoul · 06-12-2018 10:31AM

dulux99 wrote: »

Me either. Nor did I like the "woe is him he was ashamed of being gay the poor thing" narritive

Why didn't you like that narrative?

I also agree with the poster above. They basically took all the main points from the 6 part series and put it into 15 min or so.

I still think it would be a good listen. It is a very intriguing case.

Also, his brain was extremely deformed:

A normal 28 year old on top and his on the bottom.

It might not explain the murders but it still is shocking.

Cienciano · 06-12-2018 11:21AM

glasso wrote: »

those eejits (Dunphy, Giles et al) tend to stick to their guns long after their stance has been proven to be ridiculous.

it was beyond a joke with Ronaldo until they finally grudgingly admitted he was a bit of a player.

they seem to prefer average players who are "good honest pros".

I remember Dunphy had his all time Ireland XI in a newspaper. He actually had Kevin Doyle up front. Hard working striker rather than record goalscorer Robbie Keane. In fairness to Dunphy, that was few years ago and he'd probably laugh at it now.

deisedude · 06-12-2018 11:45AM

Raoul wrote: »

Why didn't you like that narrative?

I also agree with the poster above. They basically took all the main points from the 6 part series and put it into 15 min or so.

I still think it would be a good listen. It is a very intriguing case.

Also, his brain was extremely deformed:
A normal 28 year old on top and his on the bottom.

It might not explain the murders but it still is shocking.

I've listened to a few episodes and while its good they did cover the highlights pretty well in Second captains

dulux99 · 06-12-2018 12:07PM

Raoul wrote: »

Why didn't you like that narrative?

Because I felt like they were trying to get me to feel a lot of sympathy for this guy who was a total scumbag.

IanOBo · 06-12-2018 01:44PM

Cienciano wrote: »

I remember Dunphy had his all time Ireland XI in a newspaper. He actually had Kevin Doyle up front. Hard working striker rather than record goalscorer Robbie Keane. In fairness to Dunphy, that was few years ago and he'd probably laugh at it now.

Any links to this XI out of curiosity?

Cienciano · 06-12-2018 02:56PM

IanOBo wrote: »

Any links to this XI out of curiosity?

No, it was about 8 years ago. Either the irish sun or the star.

Ciaran_B · 06-12-2018 07:29PM

For a second there I thought Eoghan was going to drop another 'is it fair to say anyone could have managed that team?' talking about Arsenal today.

Raoul · 07-12-2018 12:23AM

Enjoyed tonight but I do feel a bit ripped off for my money. Not sure what I expected though.

iancairns · 07-12-2018 12:40PM

Raoul wrote: »

Enjoyed tonight but I do feel a bit ripped off for my money. Not sure what I expected though.

What do you mean, have you gone before? Did you expect something more. I've gone last 2 years and always enjoy. Heading again on Sunday.

Raoul · 07-12-2018 02:15PM

iancairns wrote: »

What do you mean, have you gone before? Did you expect something more. I've gone last 2 years and always enjoy. Heading again on Sunday.

Nope, I haven't gone before. As I said, I didn't know what to expect. I think 25 euro is very steep just to be in the presence of a podcast recording. Didn't they give out a second captains annual other years?

dulux99 · 07-12-2018 03:29PM

Raoul wrote: »

Enjoyed tonight but I do feel a bit ripped off for my money. Not sure what I expected though.

Be interested to hear more on this. I've not gone to one before because I just don't think they translate well into seeing them in person. The tv show for instance I always found a bit poor

Raoul · 07-12-2018 07:58PM

dulux99 wrote: »

Be interested to hear more on this. I've not gone to one before because I just don't think they translate well into seeing them in person. The tv show for instance I always found a bit poor

What do you want to know? Ha.

US Murph was good but they obviously had a topic picked to discuss and kinda clunkily brought it up. Then discussed it. I would have been happier to just have US Murph go on about whatever he wanted randomly. He seemed fairly well oiled.

The two GAA lads were grand. Typical young GAA players. The usual clichés. Nothing against them. Couple of funny bits.

Kellie Anne Harrington was the star of the show. Funny, self aware, confident and interesting. Actually had lots of things to say.

Ken may as well not have been there and was only there when US Murph was. He sat looking extremely uninterested. Left when the other guests were on. And came back for about three minutes at the end.

Yeah so...even though I enjoyed it. I don't know what extra I got out of it compared to listening to the podcast that makes it worth 25 euro.

MEGA BRO WOLF 5000 · 07-12-2018 09:37PM

I haven’t heard them bang on about an annual this year. I assume there is none?

OldMrBrennan83 · 07-12-2018 09:44PM

Don't think there was one last year either.

Pete Moss · 07-12-2018 10:31PM

There's quite clearly a lot of people from Cavan who post in this thread a.k.a tight swines.
Just out of the Friday football show and thought Kerr, Delaney and Dunphy were well worth the few bob.
All the same, good on the SC lads, they produce some great content consistently at a reasonable price.

Dots1982 · 07-12-2018 11:13PM

Pete Moss wrote: »

There's quite clearly a lot of people from Cavan who post in this thread a.k.a tight swines.
Just out of the Friday football show and thought Kerr, Delaney and Dunphy were well worth the few bob.
All the same, good on the SC lads, they produce some great content consistently at a reasonable price.

They had John Delaney on it with Brian Kerr? No chance?

deisedude · 07-12-2018 11:21PM

Dots1982 wrote: »

They had John Delaney on it with Brian Kerr? No chance?

Damien Delaney

Raoul · 07-12-2018 11:52PM

Pete Moss wrote: »

There's quite clearly a lot of people from Cavan who post in this thread a.k.a tight swines.
Just out of the Friday football show and thought Kerr, Delaney and Dunphy were well worth the few bob.
All the same, good on the SC lads, they produce some great content consistently at a reasonable price.

I don't think 25 is that reasonable. Having said that I think the guests on the show you were at would be a bit more box office than the ones last night.

Also, if you aren't from Dublin, then you also have to pay parking, petrol, and food. So it all adds up.

Pete Moss · 07-12-2018 11:58PM

Raoul wrote:

I don't think 25 is that reasonable. Having said that I think the guests on the show you were at would be a bit more box office than the ones last night.

Raoul wrote:

Also, if you aren't from Dublin, then you also have to pay parking, petrol, and food. So it all adds up.

I take your point regarding their shows solely in Dublin. That said, they obviously have a good thing going with Liberty Hall and their recordings, so I can't knock them for not going outside of the Pale. Especially given they're doing four in a row.
Tonight's show was great, though I specifically bought tickets for their football show, so I knew I'd get a decent guest.

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