New RTE Player

MOH · 05-12-2018 4:04pm

In fairness, you can hardly expect them to launch an app according to schedule when they can't even manage to broadcast their own programs on time.

gordongekko · 05-12-2018 4:25pm

Am I wrong in thinking all that really needed to be done is to pick up the phone to the BBC or some other state broadcaster and buy their player either from them or their developer?

Elmo · 05-12-2018 5:32pm

gordongekko wrote: »

Am I wrong in thinking all that really needed to be done is to pick up the phone to the BBC or some other state broadcaster and buy their player either from them or their developer?

Pretty much what they did with Saorview Connect, a FreeSat product AFAIK.

Think they could even pick up the phone to TG4 and Virgin Media.

lertsnim · 05-12-2018 5:34pm

The beta is available now

https://beta.rte.ie/player/

You have to have the webpage open for the ads to work so no browsing other sites while they play. Not cool.

I do like being able to rewind a live stream back if you missed the start of something. Also there are other channels not seen before.

AlmightyCushion · 05-12-2018 5:38pm

lertsnim wrote: »

The beta is available now

https://beta.rte.ie/player/

You have to have the webpage open for the ads to work so no browsing other sites while they play. Not cool.

The site loads very slowly for me (not just the videos but every page) and the first video I tried to play it crapped out 10 seconds into the ads. The more things change, the more they stay the same.

Edit: I also noticed if you minimise the browser window during ads it will pause the ads. However, switching to a different window doesn't so keep that in mind.

Tigerandahalf · 05-12-2018 6:40pm

They seem to have extra channels lined up - Food and others.
Not a bad idea to categorise all the content they have. People are into different things and it would be an easy way to find stuff.

E.g. nature docs, food, travel

None of the stuff is playing for me on that link.

tuxy · 05-12-2018 6:41pm

How do you get it to play in html5 like all modern online players?
I only get the option of using the now defunct flash format.

tuxy · 05-12-2018 6:52pm

Ah right you are, my mistake.

donspeekinglesh · 05-12-2018 6:56pm

My phone has a hosts file based ad blocker, so nothing will play. Ah well.

AlmightyCushion · 05-12-2018 7:10pm

donspeekinglesh wrote: »

My phone has a hosts file based ad blocker, so nothing will play. Ah well.

On Android and all I get is audio and no video. No ad blockers installed

icdg · 05-12-2018 8:18pm

Tigerandahalf wrote: »

They seem to have extra channels lined up - Food and others.
Not a bad idea to categorise all the content they have. People are into different things and it would be an easy way to find stuff.

E.g. nature docs, food, travel

None of the stuff is playing for me on that link.

The RTE Archives linear channel looks the most interesting. Don’t Feed the Gondalas, Blackboard Jungle, Jo-Maxi and the 1990s Gerry Ryan version of School Around the Corner (that weirdly eventually morphed into the UTV version with Frank Mitchell!) appear to be on it.

icdg · 05-12-2018 8:26pm

Accordingly to RTE, the new player has now been officially launched on desktop. Must check with a real PC at home later.

fritzelly · 05-12-2018 8:52pm

Full screen in the browser is unwatchable. Got a fairly high spec computer and have no issues on any other sites playing full screen but the player is all over the place very stuttery and unresponsive

fritzelly · 05-12-2018 10:20pm

sugarman wrote: »

Probably your connection, working fine here.

In Chrome with 360mb download - defo not my connection.

JDxtra · 05-12-2018 10:55pm

No problems with quality here for the most part - live content (RTE One) seemed better than the on demand content though. Ads were blocky, but that'll only upset the advertisers.

fritzelly · 05-12-2018 11:01pm

sugarman wrote: »

Im using Firefox, maybe try that?

Far better in FF, still a bit stuttery tho - barely noticeable but it is there but watchable

bfa1509 · 05-12-2018 11:05pm

Darkglasses wrote: »

No, not necessarily no ads - just this thing of watching 2 minutes of ads as soon as you start - potentially getting an error where you can't start your programme, then having to start all over with your minutes of ads. There are better ways.

I'm hoping to see better Chromecast abilities more than anything.

JMcGee wrote: »

TV license fees won't cover it? To be honest, I'd be fine with ads the same way they are shown on the regular broadcast. Just once they are not the same ones over and over.

icdg wrote: »

The adverts at the start are a massive bug bearer for me. I’m not force to watch two minutes of ads when I switch on my TV, I’m not sure why I should be forced to do it when I stream RTE One or Two live, particularly during live “event” programming. It has meant missing goals/tries. And if you’re travelling, every time the stream drops you have to watch the two minutes again.

It’s not a problem when you watch on Sky Go incidentally, but some live sports events are blocked on Sky Go but not on RTE Player.

Pssst. A little birdy told me about putting this line in the "My filter list" in the advanced settings of Adblock plus:

@||bs.serving-sys.com/crossdomain.xml$object-subrequest,domain=rte.ie

But you didn't hear it from me...

SCIE Cu Chulainn · 05-12-2018 11:18pm

When i play the video works fine, but when I got to fullscreen is strangles the browser. Unwatchable. I have a mid/high-range gaming PC.

RHJ · 06-12-2018 12:57am

It's annoying that the adds pause when you change the tab, but I can understand why they did that. The colour and layout of the website reminds me for some reason of Spotify.

Anyway to block adds just add this to "My Filters" on uBlock.

@||rte.ie^$generichide
@||mssl.fwmrm.net/p/cts_web_js/AdManager.js$script,domain=beta.rte.ie
@||v.fwmrm.net/ad/g/*_HTML5_Live$script,domain=beta.rte.ie
@||src.litix.io/videojs/$script,domain=beta.rte.ie
@||beta.rte.ie/player/$script,xmlhttprequest
@||pagead2.googlesyndication.com/pagead/js/adsbygoogle.js$xmlhttprequest,domain=beta.rte.ie
||rte.ie/ads/*$media,redirect=noopmp4-1s,domain=beta.rte.ie

courtesy of https://www.reddit.com/r/ireland/comments/a3he0d/how_to_block_ads_on_the_new_rte_player/

06-12-2018 1:44pm

I see that it has been updated on Sky but with the usual limited content. The Apple IOS app is not updated yet!

dulpit · 06-12-2018 2:36pm

zorro2566 wrote: »

I see that it has been updated on Sky but with the usual limited content.

Why is the content on Sky box so limited versus what's on the web player? Right pain in the hole...

JDxtra · 06-12-2018 2:52pm

That was the case before - content on TV app was different from the web based version. I asked RTE about it and they said it was due to rights. Either they have the rights or they don't. Surely the device shouldn't matter.

Elmo · 06-12-2018 4:12pm

JDxtra wrote: »

That was the case before - content on TV app was different from the web based version. I asked RTE about it and they said it was due to rights. Either they have the rights or they don't. Surely the device shouldn't matter.

It's called greed, rights holders reason for the Irish Dramas online over on TV?

galtee boy · 06-12-2018 5:41pm

zorro2566 wrote: »

I see that it has been updated on Sky but with the usual limited content. The Apple IOS app is not updated yet!

No update on SkyQ yet.

JMcGee · 06-12-2018 6:48pm

I’m using smart dns but I don’t see Love / Hate. Actually the content looks limited. Plus nothing plays on iPhone browser. Anyone know what could be the problem?

VeryTerry · 06-12-2018 7:23pm

I can't get anything to play on Chrome but it works fine on Firefox. Says its "establishing secure connection" and nothing happens.

Tigerandahalf · 06-12-2018 10:10pm

Is the android version meant to be out tomorrow or are we in for another botched deadline?

RocketRaccoon · 07-12-2018 2:02am

I watched love hate on my laptop last night with no issues, no luck on phone or tablet though.

Seth Brundle · 07-12-2018 7:44am

Irish Times review...
https://www.irishtimes.com/culture/tv-radio-web/the-new-rt%C3%A9-player-how-does-it-measure-up-in-the-netflix-era-1.3722861

portach king · 07-12-2018 9:27am

Tigerandahalf wrote: »

Is the android version meant to be out tomorrow or are we in for another botched deadline?

Where'd you hear that?

skD13 · 07-12-2018 12:24pm

holidaysong wrote: »

It'll have chromecast for Android.

Great to hear. Just fired up the beta version on a laptop browser though and no sign of the cast icon in the player window.

I haven't watched RTÉ shows in years due to the crap app and lack of Chromecast support for Android. There's a lot of content I actually want to see so fingers crossed for this new Android app.

I think the new player looks good and less flakey (so far).

Ten Pin · 07-12-2018 1:44pm

Has anyone got it working on android mobile browser (chrome or opera) in desktop mode?

ED E · 07-12-2018 2:04pm

Ten Pin wrote: »

Has anyone got it working on android mobile browser (chrome or opera) in desktop mode?

Right off the bat.

Keyzer · 07-12-2018 3:20pm

Hope it has android casting and no more crap buffering.

irishfeen · 07-12-2018 4:44pm

Will the new player be coming to Sky Q I wonder? not before time to see Love/Hate, RAW etc in box sets available, they are 5 years behind the rest in reality.

Would love to see them make the archive channel a linear channel on all platforms, it would do very very well I bet.

icdg · 07-12-2018 6:49pm

In general all the Catch Up content on Sky Q is done through the same Sky Q EPG, there is the ability for broadcasters to “reskin” but literally all it does is change the background colour and add a logo. (Nonetheless, it’s quire nicely done).

Now they could do an app, like Netflix and YouTube, but they may not want to or be able to go down that road.

Tigerandahalf · 07-12-2018 6:52pm

The rte player isn't working for me on chrome on android.

It puzzles me why they release the player on the least used platforms first. Very few people must watch on laptops or pcs.

Still no app launched on android.

JMcGee · 07-12-2018 11:57pm

I'm hitting brick walls here trying to find a smart dns provider that supports the player. Can anyone point me in the right direction please?

Tigerandahalf · 08-12-2018 12:03am

I tried the player on Windows laptop with chrome browser and it looked for a flash player download in order to play. So much for html5.

campo · 08-12-2018 12:07am

Very impressed with PC version I only hope the Android version will be as good as hopefully it will finally work on a Firestick

lertsnim · 08-12-2018 12:07am

Tigerandahalf wrote: »

I tried the player on Windows laptop with chrome browser and it looked for a flash player download in order to play. So much for html5.

Did you try the beta player?

Tigerandahalf · 08-12-2018 12:09am

lertsnim wrote: »

Did you try the beta player?

The new player logo was on it so I presume that was it.

lertsnim · 08-12-2018 12:11am

You need to be on https://beta.rte.ie/player/ and then you wont be asked to run flash.

Tigerandahalf · 08-12-2018 12:16am

lertsnim wrote: »

You need to be on https://beta.rte.ie/player/ and then you wont be asked to run flash.

Puzzles me how they have a big launch in the media and then just release a beta version with no sign of the mobile apps or the connected platforms.

lertsnim · 08-12-2018 12:21am

Tigerandahalf wrote: »

Puzzles me how they have a big launch in the media and then just release a beta version with no sign of the mobile apps or the connected platforms.

That's the RTE way.

fritzelly · 08-12-2018 12:22am

Tigerandahalf wrote: »

Puzzles me how they have a big launch in the media and then just release a beta version with no sign of the mobile apps or the connected platforms.

They need to justify the money they spent on it by spreading the various launches for as much media coverage as possible (god knows how much they spent on this over the past coupla years)

MOH · 08-12-2018 4:45am

fritzelly wrote: »

They need to justify the money they spent on it by spreading the various launches for as much media coverage as possible (god knows how much they spent on this over the past coupla years)

And to pay for the TV license inspectors they supposedly send around during the day while everyone is at work. If they actually exist. Surely that TV Detector van can tell I have no TV?

Tigerandahalf · 08-12-2018 8:43am

sugarman wrote: »

What big launch? They've a handful of updates on their twitter clearly mentioning its a sneak preview / beta release only on available on PC at the moment while they put the final touches of the finish product together. They even mention mobile and other devices are to follow!

They said the apps would be out by the end of the week. Then no sign of them.
The amount of deadlines they miss is incredible.

The saorview connect launch has been one missed deadline after another.

....posted on 2nd December on twitter...

Yep! We're rolling out just desktop and mobile devices tomorrow but it'll be on Smart TVs very soon after.
.....

icdg · 08-12-2018 9:33am

I noticed that the new logo has started appearing on RTE promos. Quite clearly in RTE’s collective mind (in so far as an organisation can have one!) this is now “launched”, but the reality is somewhat different. And it’s worrying that they think desktop is still the core platform for an app like this.

portach king · 08-12-2018 2:04pm

icdg wrote: »

I noticed that the new logo has started appearing on RTE promos. Quite clearly in RTE’s collective mind (in so far as an organisation can have one!) this is now “launched”, but the reality is somewhat different. And it’s worrying that they think desktop is still the core platform for an app like this.

There's no doubt that they've made a pigs ear of the launch, but I don't believe that they think the desktop is the core platform. From everything they've said mobile apps are on the imminent horizon, Chromecast/airplay support included. They've also said Apple/Android TV apps are next after that. They know what's up and they're rolling out a beta now, and the choice for desktop was probably chosen as it would be the least stressful on their bandwidth as it gets up and running.

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