Do you notice global warming in action?

Ubbquittious · 04-12-2018 07:58PM #1

Forget about what you read about it on a screen or on a sheet of paper or what some scientist says, do you personally notice that the weather is getting warmer and that it was generally colder when you were a wee snapper?

Meself I think November & December seem a bit warmer in recent years than they used to be but it could all be a figment of the imagination

Yer Da sells Avon · 04-12-2018 08:03PM

It was a bit nippy out today, and despite lacking even the most rudimentary knowledge about climatology, I'm a very confident man on the internet, so I can confirm that the people who have dedicated their professional lives to the study of this scientific field are actually wrong.

Beasty · 04-12-2018 08:06PM

Can feel it right now...

...OK maybe not now I've turned the car seat heater off

klaaaz · 04-12-2018 08:08PM

No I don't. It has been both warmer and colder in November and December for many years, each year is different as weather patterns vary mostly due to the Atlantic unless the eastern beast takes over. Nothing new!

theguzman · 04-12-2018 08:10PM

Global Warming is really unproven to me, the biggest issues that should be tackled globally are Population growth in Developing Countries and Deforestation.

Human population is far too high worldwide and humanity and the world cannot sustain a western lifestyle like we enjoy despite everyone aspiring to it. Deforestation in tropical countries is an utter disgrace and the world needs to move away from timber and paper, cardboard etc. What resources the world consumes every minute of every day is mind boggling and there is no doubt a Malthusian catastrophe will happen later this century or early next century unless major societal changes are made globally.

ytpe2r5bxkn0c1 · 04-12-2018 08:11PM

It's more Climate Change than Global Warming. It's a long term rise in the Earth's temperature as a whole, with different impacts depending on region. For us, an increased global temperature can lead to more severe weather, with more high winds, and more severe winters due to the impact on the Gulf Stream.

glaswegian · 04-12-2018 08:21PM

Global warming could make our winters a lot colder due to the ice caps melting and depositing huge amounts of fresh water into the gulf stream therefore significantly diluting the warming effect it has.

Mr. CooL ICE · 04-12-2018 08:23PM

I refuse to acknowledge climate change until I can walk to England

Ray Palmer · 04-12-2018 08:26PM

It isn't global warming it is climate change.

Victor · 04-12-2018 08:56PM

When I was a child, I remember that each winter there would be places where there would be ice on the footpath. I don't see that these days.

theguzman wrote: »

Global Warming is really unproven to me, the biggest issues that should be tackled globally are Population growth in Developing Countries ...

Population growth is falling sharply.

https://ourworldindata.org/wp-content/uploads/2013/05/Updated-World-Population-Growth-Rate-Annual-1950-2100.png

https://ourworldindata.org/grapher/natural-population-growth

accensi0n · 04-12-2018 09:00PM

I don't remember yesterday, let alone 20 years ago.

04-12-2018 09:10PM

Ubbquittious wrote: »

Forget about what you read about it on a screen or on a sheet of paper or what some scientist says, do you personally notice that the weather is getting warmer and that it was generally colder when you were a wee snapper?

Meself I think November & December seem a bit warmer in recent years than they used to be but it could all be a figment of the imagination

This isn't the most credible way of posing a question. Let's disregard the science and put subjective experience to the forefront. I remember the unseasonably warm summer of 1995 and severe cold spell in 2010. So what? These are not representative of the whole. How about averaging it out over a valid period of time, say 30+ years like most qualified experts - and deduce the change from there.

Atlantic Dawn · 04-12-2018 09:11PM

It's not called global warming any more, they now call it climate change.

Harry Palmr · 04-12-2018 09:21PM

Growth rate of grass in winter.

murpho999 · 04-12-2018 09:24PM

What people hear are talking about is weather not climate.

Feeling that November/December is warmer/colder is not what it's about.

Irish weather very changeable so not really a good guide.

It's phenomenon such as droughts, storms, global temperature changes, hurricanes etc that are the effects of climate change.

Harry Palmr · 04-12-2018 09:58PM

Ireland is milder than 50 years ago, approx 0.5 centigrade with the south east having the largest increase.

Ubbquittious · 05-12-2018 12:40AM

Deleted User wrote: »

This isn't the most credible way of posing a question. Let's disregard the science and put subjective experience to the forefront. I remember the unseasonably warm summer of 1995 and severe cold spell in 2010. So what? These are not representative of the whole. How about averaging it out over a valid period of time, say 30+ years like most qualified experts - and deduce the change from there.

Ah the science and the studies have been done to death and I'm not saying people's subjective experience should trump :pac: that but nevertheless I still wonder do people notice global warming from their own experience.

I've had people over 70 tell me they notice no change and much younger people who claim they have, I would have expected more of a consensus here

wakka12 · 05-12-2018 12:44AM

theguzman wrote: »

Global Warming is really unproven to me, the biggest issues that should be tackled globally are Population growth in Developing Countries and Deforestation.

Human population is far too high worldwide and humanity and the world cannot sustain a western lifestyle like we enjoy despite everyone aspiring to it. Deforestation in tropical countries is an utter disgrace and the world needs to move away from timber and paper, cardboard etc. What resources the world consumes every minute of every day is mind boggling and there is no doubt a Malthusian catastrophe will happen later this century or early next century unless major societal changes are made globally.

Unsustainable deforestation, ie. not replanting trees after, is damaging the world , but theres no reason to move away from timber, timber construction is much much better for the environment than the amount of energy and water and sand needed for concrete steel and glass

And the statistics are there, global warming is real, it doesnt affect every area of the world equally, tropical countries and desert climate countries will be far more affected than a country like ireland in temperate northern europe, so deciding whether you think global warming is real based on whether you think it feels a bit warmer from day to day in dublin than it used to be is incredibly ignorant

smurgen · 05-12-2018 12:45AM

100% we've had extreme weather off all sorts in the last year or so we've never had before.

YFlyer · 05-12-2018 12:45AM

glaswegian wrote: »

Global warming could make our winters a lot colder due to the ice caps melting and depositing huge amounts of fresh water into the gulf stream therefore significantly diluting the warming effect it has.

Where did you read this?

Thestones · 05-12-2018 12:50AM

Well one thing for sure I don't remember getting the frequency of storms and high winds we get now the last few years, last two winters has been storm after storm, my fence has blown down countless times. I don't remember experiencing this kind of weather growing up but then again maybe I just didn't notice!

AllForIt · 05-12-2018 01:44AM

My parents tell me that when they were kids summers were much hotter and especially more consistent. They would have constant sunshine which enabled them to grow and harvest crops. My now decreased grandparents told me that in winter they would experience huge snowfalls in comparison to what we got in the last 30 years or so.

kneemos · 05-12-2018 01:50AM

Thestones wrote: »

Well one thing for sure I don't remember getting the frequency of storms and high winds we get now the last few years, last two winters has been storm after storm, my fence has blown down countless times. I don't remember experiencing this kind of weather growing up but then again maybe I just didn't notice!

We always had those "storms". Difference is they have started naming them the last couple of years.
What used to be a bad day is now a minor to average emergency.

Will I Am Not · 05-12-2018 01:55AM

Spare a thought for this poor soul...

05-12-2018 01:58AM

I'm fully confident about global warming. I've ripped out my boiler & all my radiators and thrown them into a skip.

unkel · 05-12-2018 03:16AM

In the last year alone in Ireland we have pretty much seen some of the most extreme draughts, winds, cold and hot temperatures around our own homes. Most snow ever, least rain ever. Highest level in rivers and lowest level in rivers. Coldest temperature ever and hottest temperature ever. All in one year. We were all here for this to see it with our own eyes. I used to be pretty good at statistics in school, but I need no models or calculations to say that we have all witnessed climate change.

theguzman · 05-12-2018 03:22AM

unkel wrote: »

In the last year alone in Ireland we have pretty much seen some of the most extreme draughts, winds, cold and hot temperatures around our own homes. Most snow ever, least rain ever. Highest level in rivers and lowest level in rivers. Coldest temperature ever and hottest temperature ever. All in one year. We were all here for this to see it with our own eyes. I used to be pretty good at statistics in school, but I need no models or calculations to say that we have all witnessed climate change.

What we witnessed was seasons compared to the typical Irish damp muck, 2018 was not a particularly cold year, 2010 was cold during the big freeze. The heatwave was most badly needed and if we had more snow it would have been better and if every other year was like 2018 I'd gladly keep pumping out Co2 until we get some good weather again. I'd gladly take -10c frozen temps now instead of another moments rain.

Duffy the Vampire Slayer · 05-12-2018 03:31AM

In old pictures of Bogota, everyone is wearing heavy coats. Apparently, 20 years ago you could see your breath in the air every morning. Now it's much, much warmer. I didn't see this change but lots of locals have told me about it.

igCorcaigh · 05-12-2018 03:33AM

We may not be in the best country to judge climate change, by looking out the window. At least not for now.

Farmers in Africa or Australia will probably have earlier sight on it than us. But we can get used to higher weather impacts and higher insurance costs.

What will hit us though, down the line, will be the sociopolitical effects of mass migration and conflict that will surely be fuelled by climate breakdown and unsustainable practices.

We've already seen the start of that, and look at the effects that have played out on our political landscape. It's a sh_tstorm in the making.

igCorcaigh · 05-12-2018 03:39AM

Rainfall seems to be more... Clustered.
Heavier falls, more prolonged falls, lots of dry periods in between.

Spring comes later, and is cold. Fairly mild or even warm periods up to January. I seem to remember cold Octobers and Novembers when I was young. Seasons have seemed to move forward, maybe that's just my perception.

Harry Palmr · 05-12-2018 12:23PM

As mentioned above by at least two others - the nature of rainfall in Ireland has changed.

This was the land of the soft day which might actually be a soft week, endless light misty drizzle, while we still get days like that of course but it's clear enough that most rain now arrives in narrow intense bands of rain that last 4/5 hours.

There is also a greater disparity as far as I can tell between the weather of the Wesht and the east esp the in summer rainfall levels are dropping away.

Do you notice global warming in action?

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