Do you notice global warming in action?

Ubbquittious

Forget about what you read about it on a screen or on a sheet of paper or what some scientist says, do you personally notice that the weather is getting warmer and that it was generally colder when you were a wee snapper?


Meself I think November & December seem a bit warmer in recent years than they used to be but it could all be a figment of the imagination

Yer Da sells Avon

It was a bit nippy out today, and despite lacking even the most rudimentary knowledge about climatology, I'm a very confident man on the internet, so I can confirm that the people who have dedicated their professional lives to the study of this scientific field are actually wrong.

Beasty

Can feel it right now...

...OK maybe not now I've turned the car seat heater off

klaaaz

No I don't. It has been both warmer and colder in November and December for many years, each year is different as weather patterns vary mostly due to the Atlantic unless the eastern beast takes over. Nothing new!

theguzman

Global Warming is really unproven to me, the biggest issues that should be tackled globally are Population growth in Developing Countries and Deforestation.

Human population is far too high worldwide and humanity and the world cannot sustain a western lifestyle like we enjoy despite everyone aspiring to it. Deforestation in tropical countries is an utter disgrace and the world needs to move away from timber and paper, cardboard etc. What resources the world consumes every minute of every day is mind boggling and there is no doubt a Malthusian catastrophe will happen later this century or early next century unless major societal changes are made globally.

ytpe2r5bxkn0c1

It's more Climate Change than Global Warming. It's a long term rise in the Earth's temperature as a whole, with different impacts depending on region. For us, an increased global temperature can lead to more severe weather, with more high winds, and more severe winters due to the impact on the Gulf Stream.

glaswegian

Global warming could make our winters a lot colder due to the ice caps melting and depositing huge amounts of fresh water into the gulf stream therefore significantly diluting the warming effect it has.

Mr. CooL ICE

I refuse to acknowledge climate change until I can walk to England

Ray Palmer

It isn't global warming it is climate change.

Victor

When I was a child, I remember that each winter there would be places where there would be ice on the footpath. I don't see that these days.

theguzman wrote: »

Global Warming is really unproven to me, the biggest issues that should be tackled globally are Population growth in Developing Countries ...

Population growth is falling sharply.

https://ourworldindata.org/wp-content/uploads/2013/05/Updated-World-Population-Growth-Rate-Annual-1950-2100.png

https://ourworldindata.org/grapher/natural-population-growth

accensi0n

I don't remember yesterday, let alone 20 years ago.

Ubbquittious

Ubbquittious wrote: »

Forget about what you read about it on a screen or on a sheet of paper or what some scientist says, do you personally notice that the weather is getting warmer and that it was generally colder when you were a wee snapper?


Meself I think November & December seem a bit warmer in recent years than they used to be but it could all be a figment of the imagination

This isn't the most credible way of posing a question. Let's disregard the science and put subjective experience to the forefront. I remember the unseasonably warm summer of 1995 and severe cold spell in 2010. So what? These are not representative of the whole. How about averaging it out over a valid period of time, say 30+ years like most qualified experts - and deduce the change from there.

Atlantic Dawn

It's not called global warming any more, they now call it climate change.

Harry Palmr

Growth rate of grass in winter.

murpho999

What people hear are talking about is weather not climate.

Feeling that November/December is warmer/colder is not what it's about.

Irish weather very changeable so not really a good guide.

It's phenomenon such as droughts, storms, global temperature changes, hurricanes etc that are the effects of climate change.

Harry Palmr

Ireland is milder than 50 years ago, approx 0.5 centigrade with the south east having the largest increase.

Ubbquittious

Deleted User wrote: »

This isn't the most credible way of posing a question. Let's disregard the science and put subjective experience to the forefront. I remember the unseasonably warm summer of 1995 and severe cold spell in 2010. So what? These are not representative of the whole. How about averaging it out over a valid period of time, say 30+ years like most qualified experts - and deduce the change from there.

Ah the science and the studies have been done to death and I'm not saying people's subjective experience should trump :pac: that but nevertheless I still wonder do people notice global warming from their own experience.


I've had people over 70 tell me they notice no change and much younger people who claim they have, I would have expected more of a consensus here

wakka12

theguzman wrote: »

Global Warming is really unproven to me, the biggest issues that should be tackled globally are Population growth in Developing Countries and Deforestation.

Human population is far too high worldwide and humanity and the world cannot sustain a western lifestyle like we enjoy despite everyone aspiring to it. Deforestation in tropical countries is an utter disgrace and the world needs to move away from timber and paper, cardboard etc. What resources the world consumes every minute of every day is mind boggling and there is no doubt a Malthusian catastrophe will happen later this century or early next century unless major societal changes are made globally.

Unsustainable deforestation, ie. not replanting trees after, is damaging the world , but theres no reason to move away from timber, timber construction is much much better for the environment than the amount of energy and water and sand needed for concrete steel and glass

And the statistics are there, global warming is real, it doesnt affect every area of the world equally, tropical countries and desert climate countries will be far more affected than a country like ireland in temperate northern europe, so deciding whether you think global warming is real based on whether you think it feels a bit warmer from day to day in dublin than it used to be is incredibly ignorant

smurgen

100% we've had extreme weather off all sorts in the last year or so we've never had before.

YFlyer

glaswegian wrote: »

Global warming could make our winters a lot colder due to the ice caps melting and depositing huge amounts of fresh water into the gulf stream therefore significantly diluting the warming effect it has.

Where did you read this?

Thestones

Well one thing for sure I don't remember getting the frequency of storms and high winds we get now the last few years, last two winters has been storm after storm, my fence has blown down countless times. I don't remember experiencing this kind of weather growing up but then again maybe I just didn't notice!

AllForIt

My parents tell me that when they were kids summers were much hotter and especially more consistent. They would have constant sunshine which enabled them to grow and harvest crops. My now decreased grandparents told me that in winter they would experience huge snowfalls in comparison to what we got in the last 30 years or so.

kneemos

Thestones wrote: »

Well one thing for sure I don't remember getting the frequency of storms and high winds we get now the last few years, last two winters has been storm after storm, my fence has blown down countless times. I don't remember experiencing this kind of weather growing up but then again maybe I just didn't notice!

We always had those "storms". Difference is they have started naming them the last couple of years.
What used to be a bad day is now a minor to average emergency.

Will I Am Not

Spare a thought for this poor soul...

I'm fully confident about global warming. I've ripped out my boiler & all my radiators and thrown them into a skip.

unkel

In the last year alone in Ireland we have pretty much seen some of the most extreme draughts, winds, cold and hot temperatures around our own homes. Most snow ever, least rain ever. Highest level in rivers and lowest level in rivers. Coldest temperature ever and hottest temperature ever. All in one year. We were all here for this to see it with our own eyes. I used to be pretty good at statistics in school, but I need no models or calculations to say that we have all witnessed climate change.

theguzman

unkel wrote: »

In the last year alone in Ireland we have pretty much seen some of the most extreme draughts, winds, cold and hot temperatures around our own homes. Most snow ever, least rain ever. Highest level in rivers and lowest level in rivers. Coldest temperature ever and hottest temperature ever. All in one year. We were all here for this to see it with our own eyes. I used to be pretty good at statistics in school, but I need no models or calculations to say that we have all witnessed climate change.

What we witnessed was seasons compared to the typical Irish damp muck, 2018 was not a particularly cold year, 2010 was cold during the big freeze. The heatwave was most badly needed and if we had more snow it would have been better and if every other year was like 2018 I'd gladly keep pumping out Co2 until we get some good weather again. I'd gladly take -10c frozen temps now instead of another moments rain.

Duffy the Vampire Slayer

In old pictures of Bogota, everyone is wearing heavy coats. Apparently, 20 years ago you could see your breath in the air every morning. Now it's much, much warmer. I didn't see this change but lots of locals have told me about it.

igCorcaigh

We may not be in the best country to judge climate change, by looking out the window. At least not for now.

Farmers in Africa or Australia will probably have earlier sight on it than us. But we can get used to higher weather impacts and higher insurance costs.

What will hit us though, down the line, will be the sociopolitical effects of mass migration and conflict that will surely be fuelled by climate breakdown and unsustainable practices.

We've already seen the start of that, and look at the effects that have played out on our political landscape. It's a sh_tstorm in the making.

igCorcaigh

Rainfall seems to be more... Clustered.
Heavier falls, more prolonged falls, lots of dry periods in between.

Spring comes later, and is cold. Fairly mild or even warm periods up to January. I seem to remember cold Octobers and Novembers when I was young. Seasons have seemed to move forward, maybe that's just my perception.

Harry Palmr

As mentioned above by at least two others - the nature of rainfall in Ireland has changed.

This was the land of the soft day which might actually be a soft week, endless light misty drizzle, while we still get days like that of course but it's clear enough that most rain now arrives in narrow intense bands of rain that last 4/5 hours.

There is also a greater disparity as far as I can tell between the weather of the Wesht and the east esp the in summer rainfall levels are dropping away.

KyCoo

it's hard to deny that we don't see a change and small weather changes cannot be attributed to global warming. There is enough research on global warming that will tell about the exact changes. We can't be sitting in our houses comment if or not it is happening. Maybe our bodies are adjusting to the change slowly and we are currently not noticing. Like the frog and the boiling water.

El Tarangu

There was a drought all across north western this summer - remember the water restrictions in Dublin? I live in Belgium, and you could see the fields were parched, it's a wonder that anything grew. The big news here is that beer is going to more expensive as the crop yields are were so bad - lots of basic foodstuffs will be dearer this year.

xckjoo

There's a storm every second week now. Farmers seem to be having annually growing fodder problems. Seems to be fairly definite changes in weather patterns.

topper75

Ray Palmer wrote: »

It isn't global warming it is climate change.

... and planet earth has never known a time without it! Not ever.

I blame the Judeo-Christian influence of the Garden of Eden story for a lot of the failure to understand the flux nature of our planet - this idea of an instantaneously created beneficent human-centric paradise with a given set of creatures and environmental harmony, a harmony and stability that can be managed by man somehow, and where any disruption is somehow the fault of man not doing something he should be.

Bollocks to that and bollocks to the global warming research grant hunters.

Victor

theguzman wrote: »

2018 was not a particularly cold year

We did have a week of snow in March, when we would rarely have any snow past mid-February.

unkel

Victor wrote: »

We did have a week of snow in March, when we would rarely have any snow past mid-February.

Not just a week of snow. Twice the highest snowfall ever measured before. Not long after the highest wind speed ever recorded before (it broke the previous record by a long stretch). And this summer was the hottest and driest ever recorded. Lots of extremes in the last year alone.

keith_sixteen

Yes. I live in Switzerland for a number of years and there are many noticeable effects.

For most of the summer, it was so dry, there was a ban on public bbq. There are many fixed points where wood is supplied and these were blocked off and the wood removed. Disheartening to see. In addition, some people still persisted with their own portable grills but the police were quick to interevene.

In addition, during the summer there were a number of light air crashes and one tourist air crash. I'm not saying the weather was the cause, but the elevated heat of the atmoshepere may have been a contributory cause.

Also, I did a few triathlons in May / early June. Wet suits are forbidden for the swim if the lake tempreature is higher than 23 which in both cases, it was. Not usual at all.

The heat also sparked a number of extreme storms which damaged crops and caused a lot of flooding. You can notice the quality of the local produce is not as good this year, with smaller and more expensive vegetables.

Coming into winter now and there hasn't been any sign of snow with skiing only possible for the pros on the upper reaches of the higer mountain ranges. Many smaller ski operations that go up to around 1,000 meters are also closing due to a lack of snow which is a shame since these are good places to take the kids away from the crowds of the bigger, higher resorts.

In general, this year felt like there was no spring and there was summer like conditions from mid April, all the way through to mid October.

Oasis1974

This morning about 6:30am was amazing almost humid in Cork just after the rain could have wore a T-shirt and its December 5th. Betting on a nice mild winter with no snow. God bless Global Warming.

Igotadose

Victor wrote: »

When I was a child, I remember that each winter there would be places where there would be ice on the footpath. I don't see that these days.



Population growth is falling sharply.

https://ourworldindata.org/wp-content/uploads/2013/05/Updated-World-Population-Growth-Rate-Annual-1950-2100.png

https://ourworldindata.org/grapher/natural-population-growth

Growth *rate* is dropping. It's not about the rate, it's about the bodies.

http://www.theworldcounts.com/counters/shocking_environmental_facts_and_statistics/world_population_clock_live

9.7 billion projected by 2050.

http://www.un.org/en/development/desa/news/population/2015-report.html

vargoo

Lack of moths and fly's and other stuff when driving at night is a disaster. They're gone.

Harry Palmr

All insect and winged species are in collapse, but whether (!) that's down to climate change, mono-crop agriculture/destruction of habitat, pesticides or a mix is hard to say.

glaswegian

YFlyer wrote: »

Where did you read this?

I remember it from a documentary I watched a while back about climate change.

the chap on the programme was explaining how the gulf stream runs on warm salt water so if the ice caps in the artic keep melting the way they have been the gulf stream will be compromised by the influx of cold fresh water lessening the warming effect it has on our climate. (I think it was one of David Attenborough's docs)

igCorcaigh

Victor wrote: »

We did have a week of snow in March, when we would rarely have any snow past mid-February.

I'm not a statistician, but what is the measure of this clustering? Obviously it won't show up in mean averages.

Mad_maxx

Ubbquittious wrote: »

Forget about what you read about it on a screen or on a sheet of paper or what some scientist says, do you personally notice that the weather is getting warmer and that it was generally colder when you were a wee snapper?


Meself I think November & December seem a bit warmer in recent years than they used to be but it could all be a figment of the imagination

A blind man could see its a lot wetter than it used to be

klaaaz

Talk of extremes. Yes it was extreme with the snowfall for only a week earlier this year and a drought which only lasted from May till end of July. Then since the start of August, the jet stream came back to business as usual with frequent rains, too much cloud and the lack of sun. The last extreme of cold was way back in 2010 and that had consistent far colder temperatures for a longer period of time. It was far hotter in Sept 2016(up to 27C) than in Sept 2018(around 18C) for example so extremes of heat and cold come and go at different times.

The last consistent hot extreme was in 1995, sunny days of 25C lasting from mid June to the end of September, that has not happened since in that manner.
Have you noticed that we haven't had a single day of a dawn to dusk cloud free sunny day since the jet stream came back in August?

enfield

I was camping in Kent last year, and most of it was a dust bowl, in the tent it was 46 degrees. On the way back driving up to Liverpool the only plants that were living were deep rooted tall weeds, the rest of the fields were light brown. As a Irish lad I was not used to such hot weather so I wore factor 50 and was grand but the heatstroke can get ya unawares even though you drink a lot of water. It was much worse than Ireland. The gnats and mozzies eat ya alive over there and get you when you are not ready like when you are sleeping.

igCorcaigh

klaaaz wrote: »

Talk of extremes. Yes it was extreme with the snowfall for only a week earlier this year and a drought which only lasted from May till end of July. Then since the start of August, the jet stream came back to business as usual with frequent rains, too much cloud and the lack of sun. The last extreme of cold was way back in 2010 and that had consistent far colder temperatures for a longer period of time. It was far hotter in Sept 2016(up to 27C) than in Sept 2018(around 18C) for example so extremes of heat and cold come and go at different times.

The last consistent hot extreme was in 1995, sunny days of 25C lasting from mid June to the end of September, that has not happened since in that manner.
Have you noticed that we haven't had a single day of a dawn to dusk cloud free sunny day since the jet stream came back in August?

Jennifer Frances has done great work analysing the meandering jet stream as a response to the warming Arctic.

Sycamore Tree

I cut the lawn a lot later than I used to.