Premiership football support.....I just don't understand the point?

DS86DS · 30-11-2018 09:11AM #1

Ok, well before I begin this......my dad and sister are big Man United fans ....and many of my relatives and friends are supporters of some Premiership team...and they are dead on supporting their victories and have a true passion for it.

But me........I have just never understood it....,..the passion in this country for the Premiership. It's no big deal I guess....and the dad and sis love Man U ...and many closest to me support other Premiership teams

But for me ......sport is a kind of extension of society.

I support Dublin in every GAA football and hurling match.

Equally..... I support Ireland in all international events.

But Man United and Arsenal? I just don't see what the deal is

I'm not a Manc or a Londoner...............it confuses me what I would get out supporting these teams

Sport to me is an extension of primal Identity.......the only two teams I support are Dublin and Ireland

But maybe I'm just a bit backwards....... I don't know

beertons · 30-11-2018 09:13AM

Go back to bed.

DS86DS · 30-11-2018 09:14AM

beertons wrote: »

Go back to bed.

I wish I could.

30-11-2018 09:34AM

DS86DS wrote: »

Ok, well before I begin this......my dad and sister are big Man United fans ....and many of my relatives and friends are supporters of some Premiership team...and they are dead on supporting their victories and have a true passion for it.

But me........I have just never understood it....,..the passion in this country for the Premiership. It's no big deal I guess....and the dad and sis love Man U ...and many closest to me support other Premiership teams

But for me ......sport is a kind of extension of society.

I support Dublin in every GAA football and hurling match.

Equally..... I support Ireland in all international events.

But Man United and Arsenal? I just don't see what the deal is

I'm not a Manc or a Londoner...............it confuses me what I would get out supporting these teams

Sport to me is an extension of primal Identity.......the only two teams I support are Dublin and Ireland

But maybe I'm just a bit backwards....... I don't know

I don't understand it either. Then again, I follow Aston Villa.

Yer Da sells Avon · 30-11-2018 09:37AM

Why do people do anything? Sure we're all going to die anyway. I suppose having interests and hobbies makes the whole 'knowing that you and everyone you know will be dead relatively soon' thing a bit more tolerable. I genuinely wish I was into soccer, beyond a passing interest, because there's so much of it happening at any given time.

beertons · 30-11-2018 09:40AM

[Deleted User] wrote: »

I don't understand it either. Then again, I follow Aston Villa.

Bet you weren't saying that Tuesday night. 10 goals full.

FTA69 · 30-11-2018 09:40AM

I support Spurs and I live next to the stadium. But then again I always supported them ever since my aunt living here brought me to a game when I was a child and Juergen Klinsmann scores four goals in a row in front of me and I thought it was great.

I mean I don’t begrudge people supporting the Premiership but sometimes in Ireland people can take it too far, losing the plot over a team like United or Liverpool based in cities they have absolutely no connection to or that they know nothing about bar the route from the airport to the stadium.

At the end of the day if you’re a proper soccer fan you should at the least be supporting your local team as well, the buzz around League of Ireland support is often a great laugh. Local football is a right bang if there’s a good gang of people there.

I tend to find people at home foaming about Man United or Liverpool while they wouldn’t cross the road to watch Cork City a bit tedious to be honest.

DS86DS · 30-11-2018 09:48AM

FTA69 wrote: »

I support Spurs and I live next to the stadium. But then again I always supported them ever since my aunt living here brought me to a game when I was a child and Juergen Klinsmann scores four goals in a row in front of me and I thought it was great.

I mean I don’t begrudge people supporting the Premiership but sometimes in Ireland people can take it too far, losing the plot over a team like United or Liverpool based in cities they have absolutely no connection to or that they know nothing about bar the route from the airport to the stadium.

At the end of the day if you’re a proper soccer fan you should at the least be supporting your local team as well, the buzz around League of Ireland support is often a great laugh. Local football is a right bang if there’s a good gang of people there.

I tend to find people at home foaming about Man United or Liverpool while they wouldn’t cross the road to watch Cork City a bit tedious to be honest.

I kind of understand as a Cockney (I'm presuming?) Why you'd have a passion for a local team....just as I do for Dublin

It's no big deal I guess. It's just unusual how anybody who isn't s Manc could be passionate about MUFC

MactheKnife90 · 30-11-2018 09:49AM

DS86DS wrote: »

Ok, well before I begin this......my dad and sister are big Man United fans ....and many of my relatives and friends are supporters of some Premiership team...and they are dead on supporting their victories and have a true passion for it.

But me........I have just never understood it....,..the passion in this country for the Premiership. It's no big deal I guess....and the dad and sis love Man U ...and many closest to me support other Premiership teams

But for me ......sport is a kind of extension of society.

I support Dublin in every GAA football and hurling match.

Equally..... I support Ireland in all international events.

But Man United and Arsenal? I just don't see what the deal is

I'm not a Manc or a Londoner...............it confuses me what I would get out supporting these teams

Sport to me is an extension of primal Identity.......the only two teams I support are Dublin and Ireland

But maybe I'm just a bit backwards....... I don't know

Here here. Never could understand it myself

30-11-2018 09:53AM

FTA69 wrote: »

I support Spurs and I live next to the stadium. But then again I always supported them ever since my aunt living here brought me to a game when I was a child and Juergen Klinsmann scores four goals in a row in front of me and I thought it was great.

I mean I don’t begrudge people supporting the Premiership but sometimes in Ireland people can take it too far, losing the plot over a team like United or Liverpool based in cities they have absolutely no connection to or that they know nothing about bar the route from the airport to the stadium.

At the end of the day if you’re a proper soccer fan you should at the least be supporting your local team as well, the buzz around League of Ireland support is often a great laugh. Local football is a right bang if there’s a good gang of people there.

I tend to find people at home foaming about Man United or Liverpool while they wouldn’t cross the road to watch Cork City a bit tedious to be honest.

What stadium do you live next to Wembley?

People support football for entertainment you don't need a connection to a city to get enjoyment from watching world class sorts people participate in their sport.

So some people take support to far, don't people do that about everything from loyalty to fashion brands and ketchup brands to their favourite fückin smokes brand.

So really the ops question is people like something I don't, why?

Road-Hog · 30-11-2018 09:55AM

MactheKnife90 wrote: »

Here here. Never could understand it myself

Even more relevant these days......such a crowd of over paid, narcissistic, lady boys the lot of them.....rolling around like babies if someone puts a finger on them.

Mrcaramelchoc · 30-11-2018 09:58AM

I know.i mean rugby is so much better.

DS86DS · 30-11-2018 09:59AM

By the way, I'm not some Shinner nutjob who thinks that anybody who follows the Premiership is some kind of abomination.

I just don't get the fascination. I understand Man United are a great sports team

But they mean nothing to me......... I'd be happier seeing Dublin kicking their way around Kerry or Mayo

It makes me proud to be a Dub

But whatever...tis not important...just an afterthought

McDermotX · 30-11-2018 10:01AM

DS86DS wrote: »

Ok, well before I begin this......my dad and sister are big Man United fans ....

Wouldn't worry about the rest of it, as the biggest problem you have there right now is your dad and sister TBH.

_Brian · 30-11-2018 10:02AM

I followed it as a kid, you see these guys playing and earning huge money and it’s great.

Then you grow up and realise it’s just WWE with teams and a ball. All the diving and rolling about holding their shins, not one of them are worth their pay.

Can’t see why anyone over 12-13 would be drawn to it.

The Crowman · 30-11-2018 10:04AM

I've never gotten it either. One thing I can't stand is fellas who make it their main, and in some cases their only topic of conversation "we're in with a chance" blah blah etc.

grenache · 30-11-2018 10:04AM

DS86DS wrote: »

Ok, well before I begin this......my dad and sister are big Man United fans ....and many of my relatives and friends are supporters of some Premiership team...and they are dead on supporting their victories and have a true passion for it.

But me........I have just never understood it....,..the passion in this country for the Premiership. It's no big deal I guess....and the dad and sis love Man U ...and many closest to me support other Premiership teams

But for me ......sport is a kind of extension of society.

I support Dublin in every GAA football and hurling match.

Equally..... I support Ireland in all international events.

But Man United and Arsenal? I just don't see what the deal is

I'm not a Manc or a Londoner...............it confuses me what I would get out supporting these teams

Sport to me is an extension of primal Identity.......the only two teams I support are Dublin and Ireland

But maybe I'm just a bit backwards....... I don't know

Me neither..........the footballing connoisseurs know the real football is in The Championship

FTA69 · 30-11-2018 10:05AM

DS86DS wrote: »

I kind of understand as a Cockney (I'm presuming?) Why you'd have a passion for a local team....just as I do for Dublin

It's no big deal I guess. It's just unusual how anybody who isn't s Manc could be passionate about MUFC

I’m not a cockney but I’m living here ten years now so it’s my local team in essence.

Annd9 · 30-11-2018 10:06AM

RobbieTheRobber wrote: »

What stadium do you live next to Wembley?

People support football for entertainment you don't need a connection to a city to get enjoyment from watching world class sorts people participate in their sport.

So some people take support to far, don't people do that about everything from loyalty to fashion brands and ketchup brands to their favourite fückin smokes brand.

So really the ops question is people like something I don't, why?

In my experience people who watch the premiership as opposed to the league of Ireland claim it's about entertainment , when questioned if they then support Brazil instead of Ireland it suddenly becomes about passion .

Rossi IRL · 30-11-2018 10:09AM

Why watch Game of Thrones etc when you could just watch Fair City.

People will watch the better quality content.

Outlaw Pete · 30-11-2018 10:09AM

Used to love UK football, traveled over to many a match with my Dad in the mid to late 80's, but money has ruined the game now.

I agree that team sport has a societal element to it and I miss seeing that pride in homegrown talent which you'd see back then and was also great to see how some players stayed loyal to the team they came up in despite big offers being made to play elsewhere.

The FA should have capped the amount of players teams were allowed to have in their squads that hadn't come up through the youth team and also had rules about how much of the youth team had to be from the local area (within reason).

FTA69 · 30-11-2018 10:11AM

RobbieTheRobber wrote: »

What stadium do you live next to Wembley?

People support football for entertainment you don't need a connection to a city to get enjoyment from watching world class sorts people participate in their sport.

So some people take support to far, don't people do that about everything from loyalty to fashion brands and ketchup brands to their favourite fückin smokes brand.

So really the ops question is people like something I don't, why?

As I said I’ve no problem people enjoying the Premiership or La Liga or whatever else floats your boat. I’ve no problem people picking a given team either. But there’s a difference between that and referring to your team in a northern English city as “we”’ when you know p*ss all about that city or have anything to do with it; or abusing people as “scouse bastards” etc in a pub in Cork when Man United and Liverpool are playing. It’s just a bizarre adoption of a regional identity they’ve nothing to do with.

Lastly, if you’re a football fan then you should be supporting your local team and supporting the sport at a local level. I’m from Cork, I didn’t suddenly start supporting Kilkenny in the hurling because they happened to be the best at one period in time.

DS86DS · 30-11-2018 10:13AM

Look.... before anybody here is seeking to rip me a new A-hole

I just said.....loads of people around me follow the Premiership and have for a long time

I just don't understand it though.......what about Man United and Chelsea is so fascinating?

I mean if I were a native born Manc or Cockney......I'd be supporting them like I support Dublin in football and hurling.

But why support Man United or Chelsea?........ I just don't get it

For me .......sport taps into that caveman tribal instinct and hence I support Dublin and Ireland ....both Dublin and Ireland mean something to me

But as I'm not a Manchester local........MUFC though I'll admit they are a great sports team....they mean nothing with me

I'm just curious.... because I can't find any logic to it

I used to go to see St. Pat's in Inchicore

Ah jaysus.....maybe I'm just a grumpy cretin this morning and the lot of you are best ignoring me.

But I can see myself supporting the Dubs in Crocker or St. Pat's in Inchicore .....,. I just don't understand why I'd support a team that I've never had any affiliation with.

PlaneSpeeking · 30-11-2018 10:16AM

Personally, grew up in the UK and been an Everton fan since birth, been going the game since 1976 and fly over for every home, and a load of aways.

There needs to be noted that there's a huge difference between a football fan, like myself and many others and those who messed their trousers in 1999/2005 and couldn't pick out Old Trafford or Anfield with a GPS and a sniffer dog.

PlaneSpeeking · 30-11-2018 10:18AM

DS86DS wrote: »

Look.... before anybody here is seeking to rip me a new A-hole

I just said.....loads of people around me follow the Premiership and have for a long time

I just don't understand it though.......what about Man United and Chelsea is so fascinating?

I mean if I were a native born Manc or Cockney......I'd be supporting them like I support Dublin in football and hurling.

But why support Man United or Chelsea?........ I just don't get it

For me .......sport taps into that caveman tribal instinct and hence I support Dublin and Ireland ....both Dublin and Ireland mean something to me

But as I'm not a Manchester local........MUFC though I'll admit they are a great sports team....they mean nothing with me

I'm just curious.... because I can't find any logic to it

I used to go to see St. Pat's in Inchicore

Ah jaysus.....maybe I'm just a grumpy cretin this morning and the lot of you are best ignoring me.

But I can see myself supporting the Dubs in Crocker or St. Pat's in Inchicore .....,. I just don't understand why I'd support a team that I've never had any affiliation with.

Easy - they won stuff and the pathetic Olympic level bandwagon jumpers are fickle and "support" 5 or 6 teams in their lifetime.

I pity them tbh.

FTA69 · 30-11-2018 10:18AM

Also any Irish fella knocking about saying he supports Manchester City needs to be derided immediately.

DS86DS · 30-11-2018 10:30AM

PlaneSpeeking wrote: »

Personally, grew up in the UK and been an Everton fan since birth, been going the game since 1976 and fly over for every home, and a load of aways.

There needs to be noted that there's a huge difference between a football fan, like myself and many others and those who messed their trousers in 1999/2005 and couldn't pick out Old Trafford or Anfield with a GPS and a sniffer dog.

There is a big difference though...you grew up there and have supported the same team for over 4 decades...... regardless of whether they win or lose.

I'm thinking that Everton mean a lot to you.....and you'd support them even if they haven't done anything in years such as Dublin in hurling.

I commend you for sticking you to your guns and supporting what you grew up with.

I see I'll support St. Pat's in the Irish league and Dublin ....even though both have been sh!te

What I don't get though is people supporting a team when they have no connection with Manchester

Technically any Irish person would support Liverpool......an Irish city outside of Ireland just like Boston in the USA

I can at least see the Irish connection in Liverpool or Boston

But even then........ I have never met a Scouser or Bostonian that roars for Dublin in an all Ireland

But I guess it doesn't matter......... I'm sure people have their reasons

super_furry · 30-11-2018 10:31AM

bucketybuck · 30-11-2018 10:32AM

Its really going to blow your mind when you find out some people support American football teams...

weldoninhio · 30-11-2018 10:34AM

DS86DS wrote: »

Ok, well before I begin this......my dad and sister are big Man United fans ....and many of my relatives and friends are supporters of some Premiership team...and they are dead on supporting their victories and have a true passion for it.

But me........I have just never understood it....,..the passion in this country for the Premiership. It's no big deal I guess....and the dad and sis love Man U ...and many closest to me support other Premiership teams

But for me ......sport is a kind of extension of society.

I support Dublin in every GAA football and hurling match.

Equally..... I support Ireland in all international events.

But Man United and Arsenal? I just don't see what the deal is

I'm not a Manc or a Londoner...............it confuses me what I would get out supporting these teams

Sport to me is an extension of primal Identity.......the only two teams I support are Dublin and Ireland

But maybe I'm just a bit backwards....... I don't know

Why do people watch US TV shows like The Wire or The Sopranos. Shows to me are an extension of primary identity. The only shows I watch are Ros Na Run and Fair City.

Different people like different things SHOCKER

Congrats on figuring that out OP.

TheMilkyPirate · 30-11-2018 10:37AM

I'd be like the OP, The only two teams I support are Wexford GAA and the Irish soccer team. I follow football in general and watch premier league games every weekend but just found it impossible to build a bond with a team, connection just wasn't there.

To be honest a lot of the people that say they follow an english team are just following the crowd and deep down couldn't really care. It's a bit sad really. Even my friends who are Liverpool/Man U mad if either team lose a big game they're fine afterwards laughing and joking. They're not from these places so they just forget about it easily afterwards. Not saying all are like this but I see it often enough.

Premiership football support.....I just don't understand the point?

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