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Donald Trump is the President Mark IV (Read Mod Warning in OP)

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  • #9542
    mcmoustache
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,237 ✭✭✭mcmoustache


    Trump/Putin meeting appears to be off and the lawfirm of Alderman Burke that represented Trump for years has been raided by the FBI.

    https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1068181367857397760

    I'll add more info on the Alderman Burke stuff when I get it.

    https://twitter.com/fspielman/status/1068177373684817923


  • #9543
    Pelvis
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,752 ✭✭✭Pelvis


    mcmoustache wrote: »
    ...and the lawfirm of Alderman Burke that represented Trump for years has been raided by the FBI.

    Wuuutt


  • #9544
    circadian
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,516 ✭✭✭circadian


    Oh ****. Surely hrs a flight risk now and there's absolutely no truth in cancelling meeting with Putin over Ukraine.


  • #9545
    Itssoeasy
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 41,184 ✭✭✭✭Itssoeasy


    Pelvis wrote: »
    Wuuutt

    I know haha. I'd never heard this law firm before I saw that tweet. Oh where will this mess end.


  • #9546
    looksee
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,811 ✭✭✭✭looksee


    DrumSteve wrote: »
    I genuinely wonder what the fall out would be if he resigned and sought asylum in Russia?

    They wouldn't have him, when he ceases to be useful he will be laughed out of it.


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  • #9547
    circadian
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,516 ✭✭✭circadian


    Am I right in understanding that the IRS are also involved in this raid?


  • #9548
    Captain Obvious
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,165 ✭✭✭Captain Obvious


    looksee wrote: »
    They wouldn't have him, when he ceases to be useful he will be laughed out of it.


    He still has his business and properties.


  • #9549
    looksee
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,811 ✭✭✭✭looksee


    Captain Obvious wrote: »
    He still has his business and properties.

    I don't think that would guarantee him asylum


  • #9550
    BabyCheeses
    Closed Accounts Posts: 778 ✭✭✭BabyCheeses


    everlast75 wrote: »
    Nobody coming over to the dark side with me, thinking Trump won't be around politically in 2020?


    I'd say his health has a better chance of removing him than anything else. Republicans are getting what they want through him.


  • #9551
    mcmoustache
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,237 ✭✭✭mcmoustache


    The alderman burke stuff came out of nowhere. Here's more information on it.
    The powerful Chicago alderman’s small law firm had worked for Trump for 12 years, persuading Cook County officials to cut the property taxes on the president’s namesake downtown skyscraper by a total of more than $14 million.

    But Burke announced his breakup with Trump in letters filed last month with the Cook County courts and the Illinois State Property Tax Appeal Board. He wrote that “irreconcilable differences” have led his firm to stop representing Trump’s company and step aside in five current cases that seek refunds of millions of dollars in property taxes the president’s company has paid.


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  • #9552
    everlast75
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,143 ✭✭✭✭everlast75


    mcmoustache wrote: »
    The alderman burke stuff came out of nowhere. Here's more information on it.

    Surely the Alan W. (CFO) and Cohen would point them to all of the illegal tax activity.

    Plus, in more trouble to come - if Manafort's lawyers assisted illegally in funnelling info to Trump's legal team, then they are in legal jeopardy and likely to make a plea deal. No solicitor client privilege will apply if it is in furtherance of a crime

    Elect a clown... Expect a circus



  • #9553
    prawnsambo
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,667 ✭✭✭✭prawnsambo


    Penn wrote: »
    I think staying as President for as long as possible is probably Trump's best chance of staying out of harm's way, as regardless of what Mueller finds or how strong the evidence is, Trump's lawyers will challenge whether a sitting President can be indicted, which will tie it up in the courts and likely all the way up to Supreme Court, and if the SCOTUS goes his way, staying as President will keep him from legal trouble, which could also help him try install people in departments which could lessen or eliminate any punishments he or his family face when he leaves office.
    Wasn't it recently reported that Nixon had indictments against him and the only thing that stopped them being acted upon was his resignation?


    If that's the case, there's a precedent and it won't go very far in the courts if it's contested.


  • #9554
    everlast75
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,143 ✭✭✭✭everlast75


    Always a tweet....


    https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/819159806489591809?s=19

    Elect a clown... Expect a circus



  • #9555
    Itssoeasy
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 41,184 ✭✭✭✭Itssoeasy


    prawnsambo wrote: »
    Wasn't it recently reported that Nixon had indictments against him and the only thing that stopped them being acted upon was his resignation?


    If that's the case, there's a precedent and it won't go very far in the courts if it's contested.
    No the thing that stopped nixon getting charged after was the pardon he got which was very specific time wise from Gerald Ford who successed him as president. Gerald Ford only stood in a presidential election in 1976 yet he'd been president for three years or so.


  • #9556
    Itssoeasy
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 41,184 ✭✭✭✭Itssoeasy


    Also, speaking of the pride of yorba Linda, California I'd say the nixon presidential library are secretly delighted that Trump is president because now certain news programmes are using the phrase "Even, Nixon wouldn't..." when referring to Trump and his many baffling things.


  • #9557
    Frank Bullitt
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,068 ✭✭✭✭Frank Bullitt


    everlast75 wrote: »
    Always a tweet....


    https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/819159806489591809?s=19

    "NO NOTHING" is a double negative...guilty as charged.


  • #9558
    dr.fuzzenstein
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 16,620 ✭✭✭✭dr.fuzzenstein


    everlast75 wrote: »
    Always a tweet....


    https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/819159806489591809?s=19

    It's pure panto at this stage.


  • #9559
    everlast75
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,143 ✭✭✭✭everlast75


    This is a very interesting tweet about who might be next...

    https://twitter.com/moscow_project/status/1068212637459247104?s=19

    Elect a clown... Expect a circus



  • #9560
    aloyisious
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,979 ✭✭✭✭aloyisious


    Leroy42 wrote: »
    If Trump used Manafort's intel to frame his responses then he could be in very sticky situation. The timing is another tell. Trump kept refusing to answer questions, but after Manafort plea deal was suddenly willing to write his answers. Mueller lets the courts know that he knows Manafort is lying right after he received the written answers from Trump. It could be a coincidence, but Mueller doesn't seem to do that.

    If Paul told Don about the investigation questions in order to give him a heads up on what to expect from Mueller is that not likely to appear to anyone looking on as a form of conspiracy against the investigation? I'd have thought that Paul would have been informed that leaking information on the questions put to them to others they knew were likely to be interviewed would be seen as obstructing the investigation and responded-to with prosecution for same.

    I could see his legal team trying to claim they themselves have a client privilege to a certain degree in disclosing the questions to the persons not yet interviewed esp if they had more than one client of interest to the investigation but don't see the clients themselves having any such immunity.


  • #9561
    Captain Obvious
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,165 ✭✭✭Captain Obvious


    Sessions has to be looking at doing a deal.


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  • #9562
    Professor Moriarty
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,394 ✭✭✭✭Professor Moriarty


    everlast75 wrote: »
    Always a tweet....


    https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/819159806489591809?s=19

    The lady doth protest too much, methinks.


  • #9563
    aloyisious
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,979 ✭✭✭✭aloyisious


    Tell me how wrote: »
    Agree, but even talking all that in to account.

    If Trump was to run for President right now, I still think he could come close to winning.
    The Democrats have been very weak in unearthing viable alternatives.

    In the last week, I've read that Hillary is considering another attempt and also that John Kerry (74 years old) is also mulling over running in 2020 by which time he will obviously be 76.

    Now wouldn't it be an excellent strategy for the Dems to plant in Don etc the idea that HRC or JK was definitely going to run and then reveal closer to nomination that they weren't, that an O/P with a clean record, vis a vis Don to that date, thus letting him tweet for months to his hearts content and pull the rug from under him at the last minute? I don't think the back-room people in the GOP would fall for it but they are not in the Senate GOP seats or the Oval Office.


  • #9564
    Gbear
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,775 ✭✭✭✭Gbear


    Captain Obvious wrote: »
    Sessions has to be looking at doing a deal.

    I can't recall, but how central was he and what would his role be as an asset in the investigation?

    Would the key with him pertain to nailing obstruction of justice, rather than any specific Russia stuff?


  • #9565
    Captain Obvious
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,165 ✭✭✭Captain Obvious


    Gbear wrote: »
    I can't recall, but how central was he and what would his role be as an asset in the investigation?

    Would the key with him pertain to nailing obstruction of justice, rather than any specific Russia stuff?


    Didn't he have involvement with the Russia meeting and lie about it to Congress?


  • #9566
    aloyisious
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,979 ✭✭✭✭aloyisious


    Pelvis wrote: »
    Best suggestion I've heard is a Biden/Beto ticket. They'd kill it. Biden has his age against him but he's in better shape than most 30 year olds!!

    Saying that they did run together on the ticket, would there be a chance that a deal would be made in advance for Joe to step down mid-term and let Beto take the vacancy, with the Speaker taking up the V/P's vacancy?

    I'm looking at whom is likely to be the next Speaker of the House and it seems he/she in next in the order of succession should something like I outlined happen. It'd be like the icing on the cake for Nancy Pelosi as she comes nearer the end of her career in politics and leave room for a younger Dem to step into the speaker's shoes.


  • #9567
    Water John
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,848 ✭✭✭✭Water John


    I do like the idea of Biden running, despite the years. The debate between the mainstream and the radicals has yet to be had within the DNC.
    A balanced team of mainstream and more radical I feel is important. The question is which leads and which is the vice?


  • #9568
    weisses
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,759 ✭✭✭weisses


    Gbear wrote: »
    I can't recall, but how central was he and what would his role be as an asset in the investigation?

    Would the key with him pertain to nailing obstruction of justice, rather than any specific Russia stuff?

    I see what you did there ;)


  • #9569
    everlast75
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,143 ✭✭✭✭everlast75


    Just your average Thursday night...

    https://twitter.com/keithboykin/status/1068132451975929858?s=19


    I recall something said about this before. I think the SC judge that retired had a son who worked for Dutche bank?

    Elect a clown... Expect a circus



  • #9570
    SimonTemplar
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,815 ✭✭✭SimonTemplar


    Assuming Trump will be running in 2020 and won't be stopped by Mueller's report or the GoP abandoning him, I think the democrats needs someone who will really showcase what an absolute charlatan and narcissist Trump actually is. The dems needs to appeal to that undecided 10-15%.

    Clinton's strategy of "they go low, we go high" isn't going to cut it in 2020. Especially in the TV debates, they need someone who can cut through Trump's bullsh*t and really hit him below the belt. I can see Biden doing this.


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  • #9571
    Zubeneschamali
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,686 ✭✭✭✭Zubeneschamali


    SimonTemplar wrote: »
    I can see Biden doing this.


    Yes, run a million year old white guy against the other million year old white guy!


    Genius!


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