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Serious Incident in Castleblayney.

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  • #32
    Edgware
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,874 ✭✭✭Edgware


    TheBoyConor wrote: »
    learning difficulties, dyslexia, ADHD etc etc just to boost the sympathy
    Not forgetting abused as a child


  • #33
    TheBoyConor
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,278 ✭✭✭TheBoyConor


    Edgware wrote: »
    Not forgetting abused as a child

    And difficulties accepting authority is another one. And as always, issues with substance misuse

    "de droooogs med me doo ih".


  • #34
    riemann
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,063 ✭✭✭riemann


    To avoid further incidents like this I propose all A6 drivers have their cars impounded and crushed. The scrap sold and a fleet of 2010 micras bought with the proceeds as replacements.


  • #35
    endacl
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,443 ✭✭✭✭endacl


    gwalk wrote: »
    its AH

    How come that shyte is only ever trotted out by numpties with accounts a few months old?

    It’s like they got handed a flyer at a numpty convention, telling them of this magical land called After Hours, where you can say anything you like, because it’s ‘After Hours’.

    It’s like the on,one equivalent of ‘shureya havta’, which is the idiot cousin of ‘for the craic’.

    :rolleyes:


  • #36
    gwalk
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,107 ✭✭✭gwalk


    endacl wrote: »
    How come that shyte is only ever trotted out by numpties with accounts a few months old?

    It’s like they got handed a flyer at a numpty convention, telling them of this magical land called After Hours, where you can say anything you like, because it’s ‘After Hours’.

    It’s like the on,one equivalent of ‘shureya havta’, which is the idiot cousin of ‘for the craic’.

    :rolleyes:

    "Numpty" Hahahaha


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  • #37
    Kevin Finnerty
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,254 ✭✭✭Kevin Finnerty


    TheBoyConor wrote: »
    Ah come on. Yeah, but why did he do it? There is obviously some depth and backstory to this. Unless he decided to just do it for the craic.

    Why are you taking such a simplistic aspergeristic perspective on it?

    Anyhow, RIP to the innocent deceased in the Skoda.
    I hope the injured Garda recovers.
    May the A6 driver get whats coming to him.

    I'm not, I just hate threads that start with No real evidence as to what exactly happened and then you have 'rampage' being mentioned in the first few posts. The man's body wasn't even cold and the vultures had flocked in.

    Tragic all round, RIP to him hope it was painless.


  • #38
    Yer Da sells Avon
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,736 ✭✭✭Yer Da sells Avon


    gwalk wrote: »
    Get off your high horse chief, its AH

    Exactly, it's AH - where the opportunity to make a snide irrelevant remark about whichever minority group you happen to hate most on any given day should immediately be grasped, whatever the topic.


  • #39
    Roger Hassenforder
    Closed Accounts Posts: 8,555 ✭✭✭Roger Hassenforder


    ShaShaBear wrote: »
    The man entered the garda station and was recognised as a person of interest by one of the guards. Said guard approached and the man fled and got into his car. The guard attempted to wrench him from the vehicle and instead, the man drove down the street (all downhill) dragging the guard with him. He sharply turned the corner onto the main street and lost control of the car (presumably didn't realise he was driving head-first into an island roundabout) and smashed into the poor man sitting in his car.
    A much-loved member of the community and a total innocent. Our entire town is in mourning.

    Ironically, the Garda that recognized him, was the same Garda he crashed into 8 years ago, and was on the run since.
    Fair play to that Garda, could have been easily killed as well.

    https://m.independent.ie/irish-news/suspect-in-fatal-crash-on-run-for-eight-years-following-alleged-hitandrun-on-garda-37576619.html


  • #40
    seamus
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 68,173 ✭✭✭✭seamus


    And he wasn't even stationed there, the Garda just happened to be dropping off a drink-driving arrest because Castleblaney was the nearest station. What are the odds.

    Garda Devlin deserves a medal. This piece of sh1t nearly killed him with his car eight years ago, and yet the Garda didn't hesitate to confront him and try and stop the vehicle. That's the very definition of bravery.

    This fncker needs to go away for at least a decade. A garda has been seriously, probably permanently injured and two children are now without their father because he's such a piece of scum.


  • #41
    Samuel Vimes
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 179 ✭✭Samuel Vimes


    gwalk wrote: »
    is he of a certain protected ethnic minority culture?
    What a totally dickish comment to make, couldn't even extend sympathies to the family of the deceased or the injured Garda.


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  • #42
    gwalk
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,107 ✭✭✭gwalk


    Samuel Vimes wrote: »
    What a totally dickish comment to make, couldn't even extend sympathies to the family of the deceased or the injured Garda.

    because extending sympathies and typing RIP will fix all the worlds problems wont it :rolleyes:

    Another high horse dweller trying to rake in the thanks from the usual suspects


  • #43
    TheBoyConor
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,278 ✭✭✭TheBoyConor


    gwalk wrote: »
    because extending sympathies and typing RIP will fix all the worlds problems wont it :rolleyes:

    Another high horse dweller trying to rake in the thanks from the usual suspects

    Exactly. If the mods on some of these threads had their way there would be nothing allowed only sweetness and roses and "RIP, think of you children hun" type posts.
    Sometimes peoples bull**** behaviour needs to be called out on thread. And this guy is scum whatever way you look at it.


  • #44
    Roger Hassenforder
    Closed Accounts Posts: 8,555 ✭✭✭Roger Hassenforder


    seamus wrote: »
    Garda Devlin deserves a medal. This piece of sh1t nearly killed him with his car eight years ago, and yet the Garda didn't hesitate to confront him and try and stop the vehicle. That's the very definition of bravery.
    .

    When people think of the Gardai, hopefully they will think of Garda Devlin rather than commissioners Martin Callinan and Noreen O'Sullivan. Theres a lot more Devlin types than the latter *******


  • #45
    The Rape of Lucretia
    Closed Accounts Posts: 7,440 ✭✭✭The Rape of Lucretia


    Roger Hassenforder wrote: »
    When people think of the Gardai, hopefully they will think of Garda Devlin rather than commissioners Martin Callinan and Noreen O'Sullivan. Theres a lot more Devlin types than the latter *******

    He was brave for sure. But did he act correctly, or, recklessly put the lives of others at risk in what he did? I'm not so sure on that one.


  • #46
    Mrsmum
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,860 ✭✭✭Mrsmum


    The Rape of Lucretia wrote: »
    He was brave for sure. But did he act correctly, or, recklessly put the lives of others at risk in what he did? I'm not so sure on that one.


    I would put no blame whatsoever on that guard. He tried to do his job and it went horribly wrong not because of his actions but those of the criminal guy.
    Dreadful for the other man and now for his family.


  • #47
    Graces7
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,634 ✭✭✭✭Graces7


    The Rape of Lucretia wrote: »
    He was brave for sure. But did he act correctly, or, recklessly put the lives of others at risk in what he did? I'm not so sure on that one.

    A swift reaction without thought? There was no time?


  • #48
    Fran1985
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 470 ✭✭Fran1985


    The Rape of Lucretia wrote: »
    He was brave for sure. But did he act correctly, or, recklessly put the lives of others at risk in what he did? I'm not so sure on that one.

    You have had time to think of that question, log on to boards to ask it and still ure "not so sure on that one." This Garda didnt have the luxury of time. He had to act to arrest a man who nearly killed him 8 years and 1 week ago. Maybe one day after a long hard sit down and a good think about the outcome, you can come up with the best solution and maybe advise him what he should have done instead when making his split second decision. From the comfort of your arm chair. Perhaps he shouldve put his belt on too?


  • #49
    dbas
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 611 ✭✭✭dbas


    Blame a Garda for doing his job??
    Oh the poor criminal got caught after sticking the middle finger up to our laws for 8 years!
    Well done that Garda and get well soon


  • #50
    Edgware
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,874 ✭✭✭Edgware


    The Rape of Lucretia wrote: »
    He was brave for sure. But did he act correctly, or, recklessly put the lives of others at risk in what he did? I'm not so sure on that one.

    It won't really bother you as long as your carer changes your nappy after each filling


  • #51
    Roger Hassenforder
    Closed Accounts Posts: 8,555 ✭✭✭Roger Hassenforder


    The Rape of Lucretia wrote: »
    He was brave for sure. But did he act correctly, or, recklessly put the lives of others at risk in what he did? I'm not so sure on that one.

    While i presume he didnt really have time to put on his cap and complete a risk assessment, its nice to know there are Gardai who will do their utmost to catch the baddies.
    The only person responsible for killing the unfortunate chap was the cnut in the Audi trying to avoid being arrested.
    Your man was on the run 8 years. I reckon they had been looking for him, maybe had givin up, so maybe the cop said "this fcuker isnt getting away again" or something when he saw him.


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  • #52
    amcalester
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,097 ✭✭✭amcalester


    Roger Hassenforder wrote: »
    While i presume he didnt really have time to put on his cap and complete a risk assessment, its nice to know there are Gardai who will do their utmost to catch the baddies.
    The only person responsible for killing the unfortunate chap was the cnut in the Audi trying to avoid being arrested.
    Your man was on the run 8 years. I reckon they had been looking for him, maybe had givin up, so maybe the cop said "this fcuker isnt getting away again" or something when he saw him.

    More on the incident in today's Indo, this is the second time the driver injured this Garda.


  • #53
    RobbieMD
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 449 ✭✭RobbieMD


    The Rape of Lucretia wrote: »
    He was brave for sure. But did he act correctly, or, recklessly put the lives of others at risk in what he did? I'm not so sure on that one.

    Sometimes a risk has to be taken surely. If all you had to do was drive away safe in the knowledge the Gardai won’t pursue you, then that’s exactly what every criminal would do.

    Fair play to that member. It really is a job that you’re damned if you do and damned if you don’t.


  • #54
    Dozyart
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 765 ✭✭✭Dozyart


    cctv footage of the incident is doing the rounds,how the guard manages to get back to his feet after being dragged through the carnage seconds before is beyond me


  • #55
    Deebles McBeebles
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,969 ✭✭✭Deebles McBeebles


    The Rape of Lucretia wrote: »
    He was brave for sure. But did he act correctly, or, recklessly put the lives of others at risk in what he did? I'm not so sure on that one.

    That's akin to, yes he raped her but what was she wearing.


  • #56
    Captain Obvious
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,165 ✭✭✭Captain Obvious


    Deebles McBeebles wrote: »
    That's akin to, yes he raped her but what was she wearing.


    It's not really. Gardaí have to keep bystanders in mind when executing their duties. GSOC will be looking at the Garda's actions to see if he holds any responsibility and can be prosecuted. It will be a lot of added stress for that Garda.


  • #57
    Raheem Euro
    Closed Accounts Posts: 327 ✭✭Raheem Euro


    The Rape of Lucretia wrote: »
    He was brave for sure. But did he act correctly, or, recklessly put the lives of others at risk in what he did? I'm not so sure on that one.

    The Bench Warrant is a Court Order which the garda is legally obliged to execute. It's not open to choice on his part.


  • #58
    Deebles McBeebles
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,969 ✭✭✭Deebles McBeebles


    Captain Obvious wrote: »
    It's not really. Gardaí have to keep bystanders in mind when executing their duties. GSOC will be looking at the Garda's actions to see if he holds any responsibility and can be prosecuted. It will be a lot of added stress for that Garda.

    It is from the point of entirely the wrong person being blamed. Of course this incident will be looked in to but there's no chance he can be blamed for any damage the guy in the Audi caused.


  • #59
    Raheem Euro
    Closed Accounts Posts: 327 ✭✭Raheem Euro


    Being pursued by a garda (a regular occurence for professional criminals) does not excuse or entitle them to drive at speed or out of control. The driver made the decision to drive in a manner which threatened lives. His decision, his action. You couldn't expect gardai to step off pursuing criminals because potentially one of them some day could be a calous, reckless maniac who will kill people in order to try and escape. In fact they are the ones who need to be caught above all others.


  • #60
    Captain Obvious
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,165 ✭✭✭Captain Obvious


    Raheem Euro wrote: »
    Being pursued by a garda (a regular occurence for professional criminals) does not excuse or entitle them to drive at speed or out of control. The driver made the decision to drive in a manner which threatened lives. His decision, his action. You couldn't expect gardai to step off pursuing criminals because potentially one of them some day could be a calous, reckless maniac who will kill people in order to try and escape. In fact they are the ones who need to be caught above all others.


    That's not how it works in real life though. Gardaí can get in trouble if pursuing a vehicle and it crashes and kills a bystander. This particular incident is actually a fairly unique one though. The Garda was in the car just before the crash. GSOC could very possibly try and put some blame on him for interfering with the driver. They are quite unpredictable. I hope he will be cleared quickly but he will be under intense pressure until he is.


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  • #61
    Raheem Euro
    Closed Accounts Posts: 327 ✭✭Raheem Euro


    Captain Obvious wrote: »
    That's not how it works in real life though. Gardaí can get in trouble if pursuing a vehicle and it crashes and kills a bystander. This particular incident is actually a fairly unique one though. The Garda was in the car just before the crash. GSOC could very possibly try and put some blame on him for interfering with the driver. They are quite unpredictable. I hope he will be cleared quickly but he will be under intense pressure until he is.

    You won't be able to site a statute or court case where that positikn is held. Only perhaps a windy decision made by someone in your own organisation.

    In this incident the cop threw himself into a car. That action endangers nobody. The decision of the driver to drive recklessly at speed was the one and only one, that endangered lives.

    The cop is carrying out his lawfuly duty in hot pursuit of a criminal.


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