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Would you like to attend a housing protest?

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  • #2
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 17,378 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    ygolometsipe wrote: »
    #RaiseTheRoof recently held a housing protest in Dublin, about 10K attended.

    It was held on a wednesday. I assume if that was on a saturday it could be well in excess of that number.

    https://www.google.ie/amp/s/www.irishtimes.com/news/ireland/irish-news/up-to-10-000-attend-rally-demanding-end-to-housing-crisis-1.3650140%3fmode=amp

    So would you attend another protest?
    Time to put the goverment under proper pressure.

    Pressure to do what?


  • #3
    ygolometsipe
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 882 ✭✭✭ygolometsipe


    Deleted User wrote: »
    Pressure to do what?

    The job their paid to do for start.

    Try reading the link.


  • #4
    mammajamma
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 431 ✭✭mammajamma


    The housing situation is fundamentally intractable. Too many competing factors to allow movement.

    The only way this thing is going to change is by unintended, outside, fatal consequence.

    Like Humpty Dumpty, Irish housing has a gigantic, fragile, and ultimately delicious noggin, soon to be smashed to smithereens and then dipped into by many, many international bread soldiers.


  • #5
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 17,378 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    ygolometsipe wrote: »
    The job their paid to do for start.

    Try reading the link.

    I want you to tell me.

    The article just turns it into a feminist issue by bemoaning the fact women have better support networks, and then calls for more social housing provided by the government, which would just increase demand in the market driving prices up, for housing you'll never be eligible for.


  • #6
    ygolometsipe
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 882 ✭✭✭ygolometsipe


    [Deleted User] wrote: »
    I want you to tell me.

    Why?


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  • #7
    hatrickpatrick
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,797 ✭✭✭✭hatrickpatrick


    I have attended several, but in my view we need to figure out how to prevent the Eirgí breakaway f*ckers from blockading O'Connell bridge and causing city-wide traffic havoc before attempts at peaceful protest in the city centre will be taken seriously.

    I've said it before and I'll say it ad nauseum - the Save Our Seafront protests in Dun Laoghaire were hugely successful and enjoyed popular support, in part because we explicitly chose routes and rally points which caused a bare minimum of disruption to the town. We'd march through the town which would lead to a temporary road closure of only a few minutes, and assemble for the rally on a public green away from traffic.

    What the militant clowns in city centre protests do on O'Connell bridge would be the Dun Laoghaire equivalent of deciding to sit down on the junction between Marine Road and Crofton Road, thereby blockading the 46A bus route - the busiest route in the city - for the entire section of the city which it serves.

    The headlines would not have been "10,000 march against seafront privatisation", the headlines would have been "students and workers caught up in commuter chaos as Dun Laoghaire protesters cause city-wide bus shutdown". We'd have lost our campaign, and we'd have deserved to lose it.

    I don't actually know what the solution to the O'Connell Bridge problem is, but I do know enough about PR and journalism to know that no protest movement will be allowed to get any decent media coverage as long as the jucier story of city-wide traffic chaos from a handful of ignorant morons is available as a headline instead.


  • #8
    Wheeliebin30
    Closed Accounts Posts: 5,593 ✭✭✭Wheeliebin30


    Is Margaret Cash attending?

    That’s all I need to know about this nonsense.

    Just get back to me when it’s free houses for all so I can stop paying my mortgage like a sucker.


  • #9
    Badly Drunk Boy
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    ygolometsipe wrote: »
    Deleted User wrote: »
    I want you to tell me.

    Why?
    I'd say because you started the thread. Do you have any ideas of how the problem can be solved, or what the government should do? Protesting is all well and good, but it's not as if people don't know there's a problem. Solutions are needed.

    And before you ask, I don't have any answers either.


  • #10
    imme
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,200 ✭✭✭imme


    Why on a Wednesday?

    The protest you mentioned OP was on a Wednesday, did the people who attended not have jobs to be in at the time.

    Housing in general is causing issues in society at present, it is a problem, rental and purchase.

    However, I don't want government to build vast estates, they inculcate dependency.

    HAP is having a distorting effect on the market.
    It is a bad scheme.

    Even when local government has engaged in 'rapid build' the houses have not been as described, i.e. rapid.
    The price of them has been unbelievable. That model is no answer.

    I don't want local government or housing associations buying in my area as it could depress the price even though they could be leading to price inflation.

    Some of the people housed by housing associations have been through local government housing and been kicked out by them.

    Some experience all sorts of social, mental health issues.

    What is the answer?

    It ain't easy, that's for sure.


  • #11
    incentsitive
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 436 ✭✭incentsitive


    If it was organised with the sole focus of highlighting the plight of young working people paying a fortune in rent, wanting to buy apartment or house, then yes.
    If it was organised by the "I'm entitled to" brigade, no thanks.


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  • #12
    optogirl
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,040 ✭✭✭optogirl


    ygolometsipe wrote: »
    #RaiseTheRoof recently held a housing protest in Dublin, about 10K attended.

    It was held on a wednesday. I assume if that was on a saturday it could be well in excess of that number.

    https://www.google.ie/amp/s/www.irishtimes.com/news/ireland/irish-news/up-to-10-000-attend-rally-demanding-end-to-housing-crisis-1.3650140%3fmode=amp

    So would you attend another protest?
    Time to put the goverment under proper pressure.

    There's one happening on Saturday 1st December


  • #13
    Wheeliebin30
    Closed Accounts Posts: 5,593 ✭✭✭Wheeliebin30


    incentsitive wrote: »
    If it was organised with the sole focus of highlighting the plight of young working people paying a fortune in rent, wanting to buy apartment or house, then yes.
    If it was organised by the "I'm entitled to" brigade, no thanks.

    Here here.


  • #14
    PlaneSpeeking
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 5,106 ✭✭✭PlaneSpeeking


    ygolometsipe wrote: »
    #RaiseTheRoof recently held a housing protest in Dublin, about 10K attended.

    It was held on a wednesday. I assume if that was on a saturday it could be well in excess of that number.

    https://www.google.ie/amp/s/www.irishtimes.com/news/ireland/irish-news/up-to-10-000-attend-rally-demanding-end-to-housing-crisis-1.3650140%3fmode=amp

    So would you attend another protest?
    Time to put the goverment under proper pressure.

    Too busy working to pay for that nonsense, thanks.


  • #15
    optogirl
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,040 ✭✭✭optogirl


    PlaneSpeeking wrote: »
    Too busy working to pay for that nonsense, thanks.

    what would you be paying for?


  • #16
    PlaneSpeeking
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 5,106 ✭✭✭PlaneSpeeking


    Anerso10 wrote: »
    Why you call it nonsense ?

    If it walks like nonsense and quacks like nonsense....

    On my way to work at the end of the first 2 hour plus commute of the day I pass graffiti by the Four Courts - "Take Back The City".

    From whom ? It's that kind of sub "Occupy Wall Street" chip on their shoulder, entitled **** that puts normal people off.

    Last protest I had the misfortune to have to travel on the LUAS with some of the "protestors". I decided to play "entitled" bingo of sorted. 7 stop journey ? 12 "but we're/I'm ENTITLED to .....".

    Nonsense pure and simple. You want a house ? Rent You can't afford rent ? Get a job.

    You need short term assistance to help pay for it ? We'll help.

    You've never worked, pop our kids like Pez for us to feed and think you're entitled ? Second word for you is "off".


  • #17
    xi5yvm0owc1s2b
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,325 ✭✭✭xi5yvm0owc1s2b


    ygolometsipe wrote: »
    Try reading the link.

    Your link goes to a paywall.


  • #18
    lawred2
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,750 ✭✭✭✭lawred2


    ygolometsipe wrote: »
    #RaiseTheRoof recently held a housing protest in Dublin, about 10K attended.

    It was held on a wednesday. I assume if that was on a saturday it could be well in excess of that number.

    https://www.google.ie/amp/s/www.irishtimes.com/news/ireland/irish-news/up-to-10-000-attend-rally-demanding-end-to-housing-crisis-1.3650140%3fmode=amp

    So would you attend another protest?
    Time to put the goverment under proper pressure.

    no


  • #19
    Boom_Bap
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    A protest to increase the numbers?


  • #20
    SterlingArcher
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,767 ✭✭✭SterlingArcher


    Boom_Bap wrote: »
    A protest to increase the numbers?

    Of student accommodation. That article sure sends out some mixed messages.


  • #21
    VinLieger
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,947 ✭✭✭✭VinLieger


    ygolometsipe wrote: »
    Time to put the goverment under proper pressure.


    To do what exactly?


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  • #22
    Boom_Bap
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    I'm having a protest by the canal with a bag of cans because of this thread.


  • #23
    MOH
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,470 ✭✭✭MOH


    ygolometsipe wrote: »
    [Deleted User] wrote: »
    I want you to tell me.

    Why?

    You start a thread encouraging people to attend a protest that you're too lazy to bother summarising the details and concrete aims of? Good luck with that.


  • #24
    lawred2
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    Wheeliebin30 wrote: »
    Is Margaret Cash attending?

    That’s all I need to know about this nonsense.

    Just get back to me when it’s free houses for all so I can stop paying my mortgage like a sucker.

    "dis gubbermint dus nuttin fur nobodeee"

    well except for tens of thousands in children's allowance, free medical care, back to school allowances, free housing supports, one parent supports, fuel allowances, christmas lolly etc etc etc


  • #25
    SterlingArcher
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,767 ✭✭✭SterlingArcher


    MOH wrote: »
    You start a thread encouraging people to attend a protest that you're too lazy to bother summarising the details and concrete aims of? Good luck with that.

    It aims to disguise itself as a protest, but really it just wants to block off all the routes that have the sweetest Pokémon.

    This protest is sponsored by Pokémon Go.


  • #26
    the_syco
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 37,316 ✭✭✭✭the_syco


    ygolometsipe wrote: »
    The job their paid to do for start.

    Try reading the link.
    I read the link. The link says that there'll be protests until the problem is fixed. No solutions are mentioned. Just that the problem must get fixed.


  • #27
    incentsitive
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 436 ✭✭incentsitive


    Sinn Fein will probably be there with their banners an all in anywayiz, a week after Christy Burke was objecting to the development of an apartment development in Smithfield.


  • #28
    SterlingArcher
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,767 ✭✭✭SterlingArcher


    incentsitive wrote: »
    Sinn Fein will probably be there with their banners an all in anywayiz, a week after Christy Burke was objecting to the development of an apartment development in Smithfield.

    Ha now there's a party who are trying to be in touch with everybody and nobody at the same time.


  • #29
    VinLieger
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,947 ✭✭✭✭VinLieger


    the_syco wrote: »
    I read the link. The link says that there'll be protests until the problem is fixed. No solutions are mentioned. Just that the problem must get fixed.


    "What do we want?"....."NOW"


    "When do we want it?......"NOW!"


    "Whats the solution?"......."NOW"


  • #30
    tabby aspreme
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,221 ✭✭✭tabby aspreme


    ygolometsipe wrote: »
    #

    So would you attend another protest?
    Time to put the goverment under proper pressure.

    Bput dem undr bpressure, ole ole ole ole


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  • #31
    emo72
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,403 ✭✭✭emo72


    Slagging Margaret cash is a cheap shot. She hasn't the sense to articulate what she wants, and she's silly to be claiming the government does nothing, when it's obviously helping her loads. As a tax payer who supports her and I get relatively nothing in return, I don't begrudge her. It's the price of society that we live in.

    We need more houses and we need the government to do more.


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