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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,742 ✭✭✭CloughCasey1


    3.75 base for the next 3 weeks according to agent. He is finding it hard to book in cattle.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,213 ✭✭✭✭Bass Reeves


    3.75 base for the next 3 weeks according to agent. He is finding it hard to book in cattle.

    That will see us into and through the white meat so no price increase until after Christmas. You could well see prices sub 4/kg until mid/late April. Lads finishing cattle and paying 270-300/ton for rartion will take some beating as forward stores are not that cheap. Any lad that sold his silage @30+/bale to dairy men and did not restock is way better off

    Slava Ukrainii



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,173 ✭✭✭✭Muckit


    And what sit in by the fire fighting with the missus?

    ..... a lot of lads would prefer to take their batin' out in the yard!! :D (tongue firmly in cheek).


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,065 ✭✭✭✭Danzy


    Kept 7 for killing in Late Jan.

    Could have driven them on this year but was not pleased with price.

    Very hard to see it lifting much by then.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,386 ✭✭✭✭patsy_mccabe


    Guys, can anyone remember a few years back when the beef trade was roaring? Everyone finishing bulls etc?
    What year was that and what was driving the trade at the time?
    Just thinking about it today.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,609 ✭✭✭✭Reggie.


    Guys, can anyone remember a few years back when the beef trade was roaring? Everyone finishing bulls etc?
    What year was that and what was drining the trade at the time?
    Just thinking about it today.

    Your only annoying yourself


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,089 ✭✭✭kk.man


    Guys, can anyone remember a few years back when the beef trade was roaring? Everyone finishing bulls etc?
    What year was that and what was drining the trade at the time?
    Just thinking about it today.

    I sold fr bullocks in June 2012 for 4.28 per kg dw flat price. They weigh an average of 390 kg I think. That was 2012.
    That year the following happened;
    1. British beef was very scarce.
    2. The milk quotas were still in place.
    3. Irish beef was scare..kills of 24k per week.
    4. The final driver was the London Olympics and the Britannia were gagging for steaks!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,225 ✭✭✭charolais0153


    kk.man wrote: »
    I sold fr bullocks in June 2012 for 4.28 per kg dw flat price. They weigh an average of 390 kg I think. That was 2012.
    That year the following happened;
    1. British beef was very scarce.
    2. The milk quotas were still in place.
    3. Irish beef was scare..kills of 24k per week.
    4. The final driver was the London Olympics and the Britannia were gagging for steaks!

    Think it was 2013. Bulls crashed the following year in 14. Got 3.50 for e grade bull under 16 months


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,089 ✭✭✭kk.man


    Think it was 2013. Bulls crashed the following year in 14. Got 3.50 for e grade bull under 16 months

    No 2012 Olympics every 4 years and occur on an even year.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,225 ✭✭✭charolais0153


    kk.man wrote: »
    No 2012 Olympics every 4 years and occur on an even year.

    Im saying the beef trade was great in 2013 i think,more in reply to patsy's post


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,631 ✭✭✭✭Base price


    It was 2012. We sold FR bulls pre Christmas for between 3.95 and 4.04.
    It went downhill fairly quickly in the New Year when the horse meat scandal hit in January.
    Here is a link to DAFM 2012 prices. It worth having a read of some of them for nostalgia :rolleyes:

    https://www.agriculture.gov.ie/farmingsectors/beef/beeffactorypricesweeklyreports/2012/averagepricesincludingvatforsteerscowsheifersandyoungbulls/


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,225 ✭✭✭charolais0153


    Base price wrote: »
    It was 2012. We sold FR bulls pre Christmas for between 3.95 and 4.04.
    It went downhill fairly quickly in the New Year when the horse meat scandal hit in January.
    Here is a link to DAFM 2012 prices. It worth having a read of some of them for nostalgia :rolleyes:

    https://www.agriculture.gov.ie/farmingsectors/beef/beeffactorypricesweeklyreports/2012/averagepricesincludingvatforsteerscowsheifersandyoungbulls/

    Price was upto 50c/kg higher in 2013 on last week of may than 2012


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 851 ✭✭✭Pidae.m


    Guys, can anyone remember a few years back when the beef trade was roaring? Everyone finishing bulls etc?
    What year was that and what was drining the trade at the time?
    Just thinking about it today.

    Seriously pasty!
    I'd made such great progress with my therapist and forgetting that dark year ;) I got 3:30 /kg for a u3 bull 473kg. We killed them a day or two before they went over age. Horrific stuff.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,631 ✭✭✭✭Base price


    Price was upto 50c/kg higher in 2013 on last week of may than 2012
    I'm not doubting it.

    Spring 2013 was the most difficult time for anyone feeding bulls as factories wouldn't quote let alone accept them :mad:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,742 ✭✭✭CloughCasey1


    Base price wrote: »
    I'm not doubting it.

    Spring 2013 was the most difficult time for anyone feeding bulls as factories wouldn't quote let alone accept them :mad:

    Yet this June they would nearly take your mother in law.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 851 ✭✭✭Pidae.m


    Base price wrote: »
    I'm not doubting it.

    Spring 2013 was the most difficult time for anyone feeding bulls as factories wouldn't quote let alone accept them :mad:

    Like feeding cows now


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,631 ✭✭✭✭Base price


    Yet this June they would nearly take your mother in law.
    Plus it wouldn't matter if she is quality assured or not, how many movements or how many days in your herd as long as she can walk off the ramp :rolleyes:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,213 ✭✭✭✭Bass Reeves


    Yes I think it was the in early 2013 the bust happened on Bull beef. Again farmers paid for the processors dodgy dealing's. Before 2013 there was always a good trade in light bulls pre and post Christmas. Kill used to be lower than present but O grade bulls traded around the 3.9-4.1/kg, R grade stock from a dairy background traded 10c/kg more while suckler bred R/U bulls were another 10c/kg more.

    In the autumn of 2012 AIBP feedlots bought a lot of HE 18 month old bullocks at huge prices, store producers taught they would never see a poor day again. Larry killed all these cattle first pre and post Christmas and left the bulls back up. Was it in the spring of 2012 that they bought all the HE calves the three card trick they did not repeat.

    Slava Ukrainii



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,631 ✭✭✭✭Base price


    Yes I think it was the in early 2013 the bust happened on Bull beef. Again farmers paid for the processors dodgy dealing's. Before 2013 there was always a good trade in light bulls pre and post Christmas. Kill used to be lower than present but O grade bulls traded around the 3.9-4.1/kg, R grade stock from a dairy background traded 10c/kg more while suckler bred R/U bulls were another 10c/kg more.

    In the autumn of 2012 AIBP feedlots bought a lot of HE 18 month old bullocks at huge prices, store producers taught they would never see a poor day again. Larry killed all these cattle first pre and post Christmas and left the bulls back up. Was it in the spring of 2012 that they bought all the HE calves the three card trick they did not repeat.
    No it was 2013 and sent them out for contract rearing. Some of the rearers were experienced having reared quantities of FR bull calves over the years but others were not. Apparently there were a lot of costs due to pneumonia, scours and losses.
    Edit: they were buying numbers of AAx and HEx bull calves this year.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,225 ✭✭✭charolais0153


    Bulls took a hit in 2013 but a dive in 14
    [Img]content://media/external/file/169975[/img]


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,063 ✭✭✭riemann


    Is my memory going or did we not get close to 5eur/kg in the harvest of 2013?

    I remember some high prices after the horse meat scandal.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,063 ✭✭✭riemann


    Bulls took a hit in 2013 but a dive in 14
    [Img]content://media/external/file/169975[/img]

    Must have been July/August I'm thinking of. With bonuses and good grades pretty sure I was very close to 5 on a few.

    Won't be seeing that again for a while


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,225 ✭✭✭charolais0153


    riemann wrote: »
    Is my memory going or did we not get close to 5eur/kg in the harvest of 2013?

    I remember some high prices after the horse meat scandal.

    Yep


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 476 ✭✭Keep Sluicing


    That will see us into and through the white meat so no price increase until after Christmas. You could well see prices sub 4/kg until mid/late April. Lads finishing cattle and paying 270-300/ton for rartion will take some beating as forward stores are not that cheap. Any lad that sold his silage @30+/bale to dairy men and did not restock is way better off

    Its more or less what i did this year. Sold 200 bales as a standing crop, rented out half the farm for 5 years goodish money, destocked to 35% of the animals i normally carry.
    I have a paye job to keep me from fighting with the wife all day.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 767 ✭✭✭CHOPS01


    2 overage bullocks going next Tuesday. Just off the phone to the agent. Fridges full so forget about any sort of a decent until at least next March!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,239 ✭✭✭Willfarman


    remarkable how these agents are so educated in beef marketing. It’s perfectly normal for fridges to be full in the run up to Christmas and the following weeks. The market and apparently the the British market in particular is moving well. Mainly because the price is very competitive. But supply is tightening next week and perhaps the week after a little improvement in price but the bounce will come in January and another in mid March. Unfortunately it’s swallowed with increased costs but such is the game.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 767 ✭✭✭CHOPS01


    In fairness i would trust this guy. Long time friend and associate of the old man. Then again what can they go on only what they are being told by the factories. Big thing is the kill number


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,213 ✭✭✭✭Bass Reeves


    Willfarman wrote: »
    remarkable how these agents are so educated in beef marketing. It’s perfectly normal for fridges to be full in the run up to Christmas and the following weeks. The market and apparently the the British market in particular is moving well. Mainly because the price is very competitive. But supply is tightening next week and perhaps the week after a little improvement in price but the bounce will come in January and another in mid March. Unfortunately it’s swallowed with increased costs but such is the game.

    TBH I think Chops could be right. Kill is still very strong and more than likly a lot of young cattle to be killed off grass because of the weather between now and Christmas. That may mean that contracted feedlot cattle will not be needed until post Christmas. If the processors can get to Christmas without having to slaughter feedlot cattle then I do not see much of a price rise post Christmas by February cattle housed by ordinary farmers will start to come on stream so numbers will still be on the side of processors. IMO we may not see 4/kg until late March/April at the earliest

    Slava Ukrainii



  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,239 ✭✭✭Willfarman


    I bet ye both a a box of empty quality street wrappers there’s be 3.90 for steers 2nd week of January and over 4.00 2nd week of March.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,609 ✭✭✭✭Reggie.


    Willfarman wrote: »
    I bet ye both a a box of empty quality street wrappers there’s be 3.90 for steers 2nd week of January and over 4.00 2nd week of March.

    Where are ya going to get two boxes of empty wrappers in January :D


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