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Dairy Chitchat 3

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    #1532
    RedPeppers
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    Icelandicseige wrote: »
    Does anyone know a general cost for putting in a Slatted tank from digging to building walls to putting on slats..?

    Currently doing a 5 bay on to existing cow shed. Will get some prices together for you later.


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    #1533
    alps
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    Buford T. Justice V wrote: »
    An interesting link, Jersey cows have a different feeding behaviour to Holstein cows, spreading their feeding out more during the day and chewing the cud more.

    https://hoards.com/article-24392-jersey-cows-eat-differently.html

    They are also less intelegent, or else just stubborn that's mistaken as brainless. Converting to robotic milking from grass, they are they ones that are most difficult to train..

    Maybe they don't have other things to do to occupy their minds that they just stay eating....


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    #1534
    Buford T. Justice XIX
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    alps wrote: »
    They are also less intelegent, or else just stubborn that's mistaken as brainless. Converting to robotic milking from grass, they are they ones that are most difficult to train..

    Maybe they don't have other things to do to occupy their minds that they just stay eating....
    :D
    I like my few crosses, very quiet to milk and sober to handle as well. I'm half thinking of buying a PB heifer next year just to get a better handle on them.


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    #1535
    Timmaay
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    alps wrote: »
    They are also less intelegent, or else just stubborn that's mistaken as brainless. Converting to robotic milking from grass, they are they ones that are most difficult to train..

    Maybe they don't have other things to do to occupy their minds that they just stay eating....

    I'd definitely disagree, they are the ones here who learn how to pull ropes on feeders, pull the rope to open the front gate, kneel to get that extra foot under strip wires etc.


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    #1536
    Mooooo
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    Timmaay wrote: »
    I'd definitely disagree, they are the ones here who learn how to pull ropes on feeders, pull the rope to open the front gate, kneel to get that extra foot under strip wires etc.

    Ah shir we all have cow's that do that. Had to cull a cow here cos she would test every post with her horn to see if it would craic and push over all the temp posts if strip grazing.


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    #1537
    GrasstoMilk
    Registered Users Posts: 3,861 ✭✭✭GrasstoMilk


    Check out @Graiseconsult1’;s Tweet: https://twitter.com/Graiseconsult1/status/1064520735593508869?s=09


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    #1538
    whelan2
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    Mooooo wrote: »
    Ah shir we all have cow's that do that. Had to cull a cow here cos she would test every post with her horn to see if it would craic and push over all the temp posts if strip grazing.

    Got the horn cut off a similar cow recently. She's not impressed


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    #1539
    Icelandicseige
    Registered Users Posts: 452 ✭✭Icelandicseige


    GrasstoMilk wrote: »
    Check out @Graiseconsult1’;s Tweet: https://twitter.com/Graiseconsult1/status/1064520735593508869?s=09

    I follow him, he posts interesting stuff.

    Would it be worth while doing winter milk if it worked out at that cost hmm..?


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    #1540
    GrasstoMilk
    Registered Users Posts: 3,861 ✭✭✭GrasstoMilk


    Icelandicseige wrote: »
    I follow him, he posts interesting stuff.

    Would it be worth while doing winter milk if it worked out at that cost hmm..?

    Yeah he does. Wouldn't agree with it all the but it's thought provoking any way.
    Add in your running costs and extra time and it would be marginal.
    Any port in a storm though. Fodder crops are going to get a lot of farms out of trouble this winter


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    #1541
    Mooooo
    Registered Users Posts: 8,611 ✭✭✭Mooooo


    Would many tillage farms work a grass/ clover crop into the rotation?


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    #1542
    Say my name
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    Mooooo wrote: »
    Would many tillage farms work a grass/ clover crop into the rotation?

    Unless they had sheep then no really.

    There was a story doing the rounds of someone across the water doing so to control/eliminate blackgrass and leasing it out to a livestock farmer.


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    #1543
    Buford T. Justice XIX
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    I was just talking to the FRS men controlling the badgers and he told me they had caught only one badger. He must be Bob the builder-Badger because he has some amount of digging done along the ditches?


    And one cow showed with lesions so a retest just before Christmas:(


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    #1544
    whelan2
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    Had to go away this morning. Had a heifer went with the cows yesterday. Sold her 2 calves. I walked half a mile to close in the cows in the rain. Closed 4 gates on way back. Real belt and braces approach. Fecking heifer ended up on the road, while I was away. Lucky my dad wasn't far away. Always something.


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    #1545
    Base price
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    Buford T. Justice V wrote: »
    I was just talking to the FRS men controlling the badgers and he told me they had caught only one badger. He must be Bob the builder-Badger because he has some amount of digging done along the ditches?


    And one cow showed with lesions so a retest just before Christmas:(
    Ah ****e :mad:

    In my area the lads who work on contract for DAFM to capture badgers are locals and would be shooting/hunting/fishing fellas. They know every inch of the country and would be knowledgeable and informed of the location of setts.


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    #1546
    yosemitesam1
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    Mooooo wrote: »
    Would many tillage farms work a grass/ clover crop into the rotation?

    They'd be foolish to unless they'd a solid contract for it


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    #1547
    Mooooo
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    yosemitesam1 wrote: »
    They'd be foolish to unless they'd a solid contract for it

    Buy maize here on contract, he only sets what he has orders for in terms of maize and beet. Was wondering would a similar system work for silage production if quality could be controlled in terms of cutting date etc. Maize or wholecrop prob better value when all costs added in tho.


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    #1548
    Buford T. Justice XIX
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    Base price wrote: »
    Ah ****e :mad:

    In my area the lads who work on contract for DAFM to capture badgers are locals and would be shooting/hunting/fishing fellas. They know every inch of the country and would be knowledgeable and informed of the location of setts.
    This lad was telling me that most setts seem to be near Alder trees, that the badgers must like the fruit.


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    #1549
    straight
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    Buford T. Justice V wrote: »
    This lad was telling me that most setts seem to be near Alder trees, that the badgers must like the fruit.

    Not on my farm anyway


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    #1550
    straight
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    Those roll out mats are some bitch to move around.


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    #1551
    GrasstoMilk
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    Any tips on training cows to cubicles?
    Hopefully going finger our girls in tomorrow evening. None of them have ever been in a cubicle.


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    #1552
    older by the day
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    GrasstoMilk wrote: »
    Any tips on training cows to cubicles?
    Hopefully going finger our girls in tomorrow evening. None of them have ever been in a cubicle.

    Good luck with the fingering


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    #1553
    Buford T. Justice XIX
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    GrasstoMilk wrote: »
    Any tips on training cows to cubicles?
    Hopefully going finger our girls in tomorrow evening. None of them have ever been in a cubicle.

    A small bit of ration at the top of the cubicles will get them up. A few will take a while to train if they can be moved to a section by themselves?


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    #1554
    visatorro
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    GrasstoMilk wrote: »
    Any tips on training cows to cubicles?
    Hopefully going finger our girls in tomorrow evening. None of them have ever been in a cubicle.

    I don't know about anywhere else but my cows don't see cubicles until they calf. Would have seen either straw or slat mats. So would never have sat on concrete. I find they won't sit on something cold. They'll figure out some enough the mats are cosy and up they'll pop. What the older girls are gonna be like I'm not sure. Suppose the heifers here would see cows lying up on them.


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    #1555
    visatorro
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    Would it be madness to get a lend of five or ten cubicle trained dry cows or something for the first week??!!


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    #1556
    atlantic mist
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    meal at top of cubicle never worked for me, they just go in and eat it and back out

    i mix them with cows now (last years 1st calves), they are an awful bunch of copy cats and none of them like being the odd one out


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    #1557
    Morris Moss
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    GrasstoMilk wrote: »
    Any tips on training cows to cubicles?
    Hopefully going finger our girls in tomorrow evening. None of them have ever been in a cubicle.

    One sure way is tyres in the passage, and lock them in in the night, they have to lie up in them, it's absolute hardship but it works.


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    #1558
    Snowfire
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    Anyone at the dairy day in punchestown yesterday?


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    #1559
    whelan2
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    Had to use our generator today. First time in years. Just wondering do you turn milk tank off before starting generator. I know it will be off anyway as there's no power. But do you turn off the main switch?


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    #1560
    straight
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    Snowfire wrote: »
    Anyone at the dairy day in punchestown yesterday?

    Is that not just a fundraiser for the farmers journal. The national dairy show is the dairy farmers day out.


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    #1561
    Injuryprone
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    whelan2 wrote: »
    Had to use our generator today. First time in years. Just wondering do you turn milk tank off before starting generator. I know it will be off anyway as there's no power. But do you turn off the main switch?

    I'd be inclined to apply the load gradually. My planned method ( if I ever get to use it) is put the c/o switch to 0, connect everything up, put it running to 50hz, turn down the trips, turn on the c/o switch, turn up the trips, rev up the generator back up to 50 if it's dropped a little.


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