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Galway GAA Discussion Thread #2

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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,930 ✭✭✭jr86


    Any concrete sources, no?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,930 ✭✭✭jr86


    Anyway...

    How do people see the county final going today?

    Very tough one to call

    Thomas's were ultimately very much over-hyped after a few facile group wins - they were blessed to come through against the Bridge and were very mediocre against Sarsfields in the semi. Their weaknesses (mainly in defence) have been properly tested in the knock-outs

    Their main men have been very inconsistent - Conor Cooney got 5 from play against Bridge and 1 near the end v Sars, Eanna Burke put up the same scores in those matches in reverse order. David and Darragh Burke were peripheral against Bridge but did improve (David is still way off his best) v Sarsfields.

    Mellows for me are the safe bet. I think they'll hold all the Thomas's forwards enough. I'd be amazed if anyone got 5 from play and that's what Thomas's have relied on in their last two games - one of their stars to bail them out.

    Mellows have such a dogged defence and midfield and while their forwards haven't been individually exceptional (Haran aside), I do think they'll have put up enough scores and grind this out


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,930 ✭✭✭jr86


    Very impressive win in the Minor for the Bridge

    Had a fair few 15 year olds playing even. TJ Brennan is a colossus and it won't be long before we're seeing him in a Galway senior jersey

    Looks like they're setting up to be the dominant Senior Club in the 2020s!


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,802 ✭✭✭Happyilylost


    Programmes sold out. Our country board can get very little right.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,930 ✭✭✭jr86


    Toms proving me well wrong anyway, fierce damp squib altogether


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  • Registered Users Posts: 1,802 ✭✭✭Happyilylost


    jr86 wrote:
    Toms proving me well wrong anyway, fierce damp squib altogether


    Thomas's Way too good. For the county team probably would of been better for Mellows to win. Fintan Burke, Shane Cooney, Enna Burke and Darragh Burke probably would of seen a fair bit of league action to see where they were. Darragh Burke man of the match two games in a row probably would of been brought into the panel for a look.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 151 ✭✭Dickie9


    jr86 wrote: »
    Any concrete sources, no?

    Years off persistence finally got transfer!


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,762 ✭✭✭spurshero


    Dickie9 wrote: »
    He's working in loughrea gym....looks like he has been looking for transfer a number off years all low key ud think it be in the paper big transfer

    Strange one . Won’t go down well in mullagh I say . Hard to understand the reasoning behind it . Must be more to it then meets the eye . Very unusual for players to leave there home clubs especially for one few miles away


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,930 ✭✭✭jr86


    I asked for a concrete source and you give me feckin Wikipedia

    An actual concrete source please


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,930 ✭✭✭jr86


    spurshero wrote: »
    Strange one . Won’t go down well in mullagh I say . Hard to understand the reasoning behind it . Must be more to it then meets the eye . Very unusual for players to leave there home clubs especially for one few miles away

    I dunno I'll believe it when I see it, I think someone may just be having us on.

    Until it's reported by an actual valid source I'm not having any of it


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,930 ✭✭✭jr86


    Thomas's Way too good. For the county team probably would of been better for Mellows to win. Fintan Burke, Shane Cooney, Enna Burke and Darragh Burke probably would of seen a fair bit of league action to see where they were. Darragh Burke man of the match two games in a row probably would of been brought into the panel for a look.

    Darragh had his chance a few years ago I'd doubt he'll be looked at again

    Fintan is a certainty for the panel next year alright


  • Registered Users Posts: 3,383 ✭✭✭MfMan


    jr86 wrote: »
    Anyway...

    How do people see the county final going today?

    Very tough one to call

    Thomas's were ultimately very much over-hyped after a few facile group wins - they were blessed to come through against the Bridge and were very mediocre against Sarsfields in the semi. Their weaknesses (mainly in defence) have been properly tested in the knock-outs

    Their main men have been very inconsistent - Conor Cooney got 5 from play against Bridge and 1 near the end v Sars, Eanna Burke put up the same scores in those matches in reverse order. David and Darragh Burke were peripheral against Bridge but did improve (David is still way off his best) v Sarsfields.

    Mellows for me are the safe bet. I think they'll hold all the Thomas's forwards enough. I'd be amazed if anyone got 5 from play and that's what Thomas's have relied on in their last two games - one of their stars to bail them out.

    Mellows have such a dogged defence and midfield and while their forwards haven't been individually exceptional (Haran aside), I do think they'll have put up enough scores and grind this out

    In mitigation, for Thomas' the 'Bridge game came after a long hiatus against an up-and-coming team who'd had a pre-qualifier warm up match. Equally, there was nothing mediocre in the Sarsfields' match about their performance (or their opponents.)

    Your preview analysis wasn't incorrect, so what went wrong for Mellows in today's ordinary final? In fairness, Thomas' seized the initiative from the start and played with the wind having won the toss. They battled in numbers, something not always associated with them, and the half-time stat summed up the game, with nearly all of the winners' scores coming from play, with Mellows' replies all frees. In a funny way, Tom's inconsistency is a strength; like Galway last year, they weren't reliant on any particular forward in the knockout stages, with different players coming to the fore in the various rounds. Mellow's reliance on Tadgh Haran was advertised and when, like today, he wasn't quite at it, the rest of their forward division struggled, with Aongus Callanan in particular being anonymous. Three of them were replaced when the game was still in the melting pot and they had to push David Collins forward to tyr and improve things. They also lost midfield which in turn put strain on the defence.

    A Thomas's / Ballyhale match will be tasty if it comes to pass.


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,762 ✭✭✭spurshero


    Thomas s played well yesterday and will take beating now . Could very well win all Ireland . Fintan Burke will surely be on Galway team next year he mopped up all around him and didn’t give Haran a sniff and he has played well all year . Mellows aren’t has bad as they looked yesterday . To me they were flat on the day and there were signs that maybe it was a game to far for a team that are 2 years on the go without much of a break . Overall there a young team and should be thereabouts for few years . 2019 will be interesting as there will be a lot of teams that think there not far away including clarenbridge cappy turlough sarsfields amongst them


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,408 ✭✭✭basillarkin


    jr86 wrote: »
    Very impressive win in the Minor for the Bridge

    Had a fair few 15 year olds playing even. TJ Brennan is a colossus and it won't be long before we're seeing him in a Galway senior jersey

    Looks like they're setting up to be the dominant Senior Club in the 2020s!
    Are 15 year old lads allowed play minor? If that is the case they could have been marking someone who is 3 years older than them


  • Registered Users Posts: 108 ✭✭Legalfarmer89


    St Thomas were by far the better team and Thomas’ defence didn’t give Mellows a chance. Fintan Burke was very good and the corner backs were very tigerish. Darragh Burke did the damage up front. There playing Cushendall in the Semi now in February and they will be favorites for that so a great chance to get to an All Ireland Final. After that anything is a bonus however I don’t think they have come up anything like Ballygunner or Ballyhale in Galway so I can’t see them winning it out.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,930 ✭✭✭jr86


    Are 15 year old lads allowed play minor? If that is the case they could have been marking someone who is 3 years older than them

    Yeah once they're over-age for under 14 they can play Minor, so plenty of players would even have been 14 in earlier stages of the Championship

    Otherwise rural clubs would struggle hugely to field

    For a top club like the Bridge, the 15 year olds will only get in if they're exceptional. For players of that standard the 3 year age gap will have very little impact


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,930 ✭✭✭jr86


    St Thomas were by far the better team and Thomas’ defence didn’t give Mellows a chance. Fintan Burke was very good and the corner backs were very tigerish. Darragh Burke did the damage up front. There playing Cushendall in the Semi now in February and they will be favorites for that so a great chance to get to an All Ireland Final. After that anything is a bonus however I don’t think they have come up anything like Ballygunner or Ballyhale in Galway so I can’t see them winning it out.

    They were very disappointing against Ballyea two years ago (although they did come back strongly). It was Conor Cooney's last time taking frees for them

    However they look a better side this time around, and they had lots of guys out of position that day - such as Eanna Burke corner back, Sean Skehill FF, James Regan wing back - who are now flourishing in roles more suited to them

    You're right though, Ballygunnar and Ballyhale will be a huge step up from what they've faced in Galway

    Interestingly the Ulster Champs (Loughgiel) gave them a huge scare in 2013 (Thomas's somehow got through AET) and Cushendall blitzed Sarsfields in 2016 so maybe the semi won't be as one-sided as some think, although they should come through


  • Registered Users Posts: 3,383 ✭✭✭MfMan


    St Thomas were by far the better team and Thomas’ defence didn’t give Mellows a chance. Fintan Burke was very good and the corner backs were very tigerish. Darragh Burke did the damage up front. There playing Cushendall in the Semi now in February and they will be favorites for that so a great chance to get to an All Ireland Final. After that anything is a bonus however I don’t think they have come up anything like Ballygunner or Ballyhale in Galway so I can’t see them winning it out.

    Think your underselling their chances a bit. Whether good or bad, club hurling in Galway is very competitive and a good training ground for teams who progress from the county. Both Ballyhale and Ballygunner have had their travails to get this far also, the former being very lucky to get to the KK final, while the latter (I think) just squeaked a draw in normal time v. Ballyea.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,930 ✭✭✭jr86


    Ballyea are a cut above anything Thomas's have played

    The Galway championship hasn't been the best standard over the past few years, summed up by the fact that no Galway winner has won their semi final since Portumna 5 years back


  • Registered Users Posts: 17,329 ✭✭✭✭Utopia Parkway


    St Thomas were by far the better team and Thomas’ defence didn’t give Mellows a chance. Fintan Burke was very good and the corner backs were very tigerish. Darragh Burke did the damage up front. There playing Cushendall in the Semi now in February and they will be favorites for that so a great chance to get to an All Ireland Final. After that anything is a bonus however I don’t think they have come up anything like Ballygunner or Ballyhale in Galway so I can’t see them winning it out.

    I'd give them every chance to be honest. They definitely have the talent. They are a strange side in that some years in Galway they don't look that bothered but they seem to be motivated and having one of their good years this year.

    Have to get past Cushendall first and Ulster clubs are actually pretty competitive compared to what their sides are like at intercounty level.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,930 ✭✭✭jr86


    They are a strange side in that some years in Galway they don't look that bothered but they seem to be motivated and having one of their good years this year..

    They've been affected by injuries in a few campaigns, and have very little strength in depth beyond their usual first 15 to cope


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,802 ✭✭✭Happyilylost


    jr86 wrote:
    They've been affected by injuries in a few campaigns, and have very little strength in depth beyond their usual first 15 to cope


    Change of management for me was a big difference this year too. Things seemed a little less hectic. More heads less raw passion. For me this team should of dominated over the last number of years since they last won the All Ireland. Current team. David Burke and Conor Cooney are inter county players through and through. Next young gifted and possibly inter county players of the future would be Enna Burke, Shane Cooney and Fintan Burke. Above average club players I would see as James Regan, Bernard Burke, Donal Cooney and Darragh Burke (he's been exceptional in the last two games I've seen) The rest are mostly solid club players with very few very weak links. If they play to form I think they have a good chance of winning the All Ireland out.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,930 ✭✭✭jr86


    Change of management for me was a big difference this year too. Things seemed a little less hectic. More heads less raw passion. For me this team should of dominated over the last number of years since they last won the All Ireland. Current team. David Burke and Conor Cooney are inter county players through and through. Next young gifted and possibly inter county players of the future would be Enna Burke, Shane Cooney and Fintan Burke. Above average club players I would see as James Regan, Bernard Burke, Donal Cooney and Darragh Burke (he's been exceptional in the last two games I've seen) The rest are mostly solid club players with very few very weak links. If they play to form I think they have a good chance of winning the All Ireland out.

    Not sure is D Cooney much more than solid, I'd have Sherry and a fit Sean Skehill in that group ahead of him

    Wouldn't amaze me if Sherry was considered as an option for county in a position Galway are light in

    I'm not sure how fully fit Bernard was this year, was quiet in a lot of games

    But very strong starting 15 overall for a club side


  • Registered Users Posts: 17,329 ✭✭✭✭Utopia Parkway


    Of course it also means Galway will likely be without the Thomas' lads for the entire league campaign. Wasn't a big deal last year as Mellows had nobody invoved but Thomas' will probably have 5 or 6 lads in the Galway squad next year.


  • Registered Users Posts: 3,383 ✭✭✭MfMan


    jr86 wrote: »
    Ballyea are a cut above anything Thomas's have played

    The Galway championship hasn't been the best standard over the past few years, summed up by the fact that no Galway winner has won their semi final since Portumna 5 years back

    We shall revisit this again on March 17 methinks.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 15,238 ✭✭✭✭Diabhal Beag


    Goes without saying obviously but delighted to hear last night that MD is sticking around for next season. Regardless of that first 60 minutes of the final we had some fantastic days out this year and we're definitely in the mix next year. It's been a real pleasure to follow these lads around the country over the last few Summers.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,550 ✭✭✭evolving tipperary


    Some carry-on, wha?

    'This report hasn't been made public yet, as it has been the subject of legal correspondence.

    Croke Park have commissioned Mazars, the international Auditing and corporate finance company, to conduct a full audit of Galway GAA finances, and they have been working in Galway for some weeks now.'

    https://www.rte.ie/sport/gaa/2018/1121/1012498-galway-pay-390k-owed-on-2015-all-ireland-final-tickets/


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,802 ✭✭✭Happyilylost


    Some carry-on, wha?


    Nothing new in it.


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,365 ✭✭✭Audioslaven


    Has Padraic Joyce got the U20 gig?


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  • Registered Users Posts: 3,383 ✭✭✭MfMan


    Has Padraic Joyce got the U20 gig?

    Ya, no mention yet of selectors.


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