Madeleine McCann

limnam wrote: »

wasn't there something about him on holiday with another of the mcanns friends and he made gestures like rubbing his nipples?

very odd behaviour

The rumour mill at it's finest, from people who claim they know so much about the Madeline McCann disappearance , "wasn't there...didn't they, did I hear?" ad nauseum :rolleyes:

limnam wrote: »

So you've no opinion on it then....

That is my opinion - too many amateur Sherlocks. At least know the full facts of what you're discussing before you go putting it out there. Chinese whispers.

Babooshka wrote: »

The rumour mill at it's finest, from people who claim they know so much about the Madeline McCann disappearance , "wasn't there...didn't they, did I hear?" ad nauseum :

However unpleasant- that particular incident is a matter of official record as detailed in the official police files.

gozunda wrote: »

However unpleasant- that particular incident is a matter of official record as detailed in the official police files.

I knew it was. I also know that it's been disputed as an active over imagination, I thought I was on your ignore list by the way? :pac::pac:

My issue was with the style of the questions..." weren't they something something and someone said the other about it", this kind of style that so many people diving on the "McCanns did something" train use. It's very vague to be frank. It wouldn't be worth a lot.

limnam wrote: »

Oh so you just want to claim rumors and Chinese whispers without knowing either ?


interesting tact.

what I would like is people condemning others by using sentences like "erm, didn't I hear something about" blah blah to stop and use some hard facts that they can comment on a bit better than how they are doing, so far.

Babooshka wrote: »

I knew it was. I also know that it's been disputed as an active over imagination, I thought I was on your ignore list by the way? :pac::pac:

My issue was with the style of the questions..." weren't they something something and someone said the other about it", this kind of style that so many people diving on the "McCanns did something" train use. It's very vague to be frank. It wouldn't be worth a lot.

So even though you knew it to be true you claimed rumors and Chinese whispers.


Interesting.

limnam wrote: »

So even though you knew it to be true you claimed rumors and Chinese whispers.


Interesting.

If they were doing it why wasn't it taken any further? You're very quick to jump on anyone who claims it isn't, but how do you, a member of the public that had nothing to do with a live investigation at the time know there is more to it than something that was misinterpreted? Why did you say "weren't they" blah blah if you knew the facts, I will tell you why, because you just like regurgitating the same old stuff again and again.

limnam wrote: »

You made a claim that was stated was rumor and Chinese whispers.


You were wrong..


Lets move on...

Do you own this site or something :rolleyes::pac::pac: No I wasn't wrong. You started off by saying "weren't they involved in something something blah" and I said that it's ridiculous making statements like this. Use all the facts. The facts are that one person said she thought she overheard something odd, nothing ever came of it. So what? And now it gives you a licence to go around going "didn't they have a conversation about" blah blah. Now you are free to move on pal.

News in today

https://www.9news.com.au/2018/11/19/08/30/madeleine-mccann-cops-reveal-two-active-leads-in-key-meeting-with-missing-girls-parents

cnocbui wrote: »

Well that would seem to put the kybosh on all the McCann haters. The Police are hardly going to inform the parents they have two significant leads that implicate them.

Still we have heard this stuff from them before when extending funding has been in the news, so I am hugely sceptical they have anything.

It's interesting if nothing else

Babooshka wrote: »

If they were doing it why wasn't it taken any further? You're very quick to jump on anyone who claims it isn't, but how do you, a member of the public that had nothing to do with a live investigation at the time know there is more to it than something that was misinterpreted? Why did you say "weren't they" blah blah if you knew the facts, I will tell you why, because you just like regurgitating the same old stuff again and again.

The witness statement was taken by the UK police on May 16th, thirteen days after Madeleine’s disappearance. That information although later deemed very important for the progress of the investigation by the Portuguese police, was (without any explanation) not forwarded by the UK police for six months

The couple who voluntarily provided the statement in the UK were acquantices of the McCanns and the Payne families. Both are medical doctors and had previously spent vacations with them.

The Portuguese Police investigators did learn about similar events that allegedly took place during a holiday in Greece – without, however, obtaining reliable witness statements -, they tell the (UK) police, who, even at this point, refrain from revealing what they know on the subject....Why did the British keep it secret for more than six months?

cnocbui wrote: »

Well that would seem to put the kybosh on all the McCann haters. The Police are hardly going to inform the parents they have two significant leads that implicate them.

Still we have heard this stuff from them before when extending funding has been in the news, so I am hugely sceptical they have anything.

Why are you accsing people of hating the McCanns?


I couldn't care less about the McCanns one way or another.


People want the people responsible for it to be brought to justice that just happens to also include the McCanns if they were responsible. It's nothing to do with liking or disliking them.

bubblypop wrote: »

She ' believed ' that he was talking about Madeline, but does not known for sure.
She still allowed this man to bathe her child after, she says, she 'imagined' he had looked at child pornography on the internet.
In fact she was so worried about this man, that she stayed on the holiday, allowed him to bath her child, & never once brought up her worries with Kate McCann , the mother of the child she 'believed ' he was talking about.
Sorry, maybe posters on here are not used to reading statements or looking for proof in them, but there is nothing there apart from her feelings.
Which, she didn't act on, so were obviously not too strong at the time.

Incorrect.

Both husband and wife made seperate statements to the UK police about inappropriate references made by Payne etc.

The couple were taken aback that no-one else at the table that night either reacted or responded to what had been said.

Following the incident on holiday - Subsequently the wife only allowed her child to be bathed whilst her husband Savio was present.

She clearly stated that she did not trust payne "I did not trust him to give bath to E. alone."

Two witnesses observed a similar interaction whilst on holiday in Greece with the Paynes.

David Payne was the one who organized the trip to Portugal, and seemingly had an obsession with bathing his friends' children - as it is detailed in some of the police interviews; that earlier that day, around 6:30pm, David Payne calls to the mccanns apartment to ask Kate if she needed help bathing the kids.

The Gaspar statement was never followed up on by the British police.

bubblypop wrote: »

There really is no proof of anything, it's just feelings & not very strong ones at that.

Yera sure there's nothing odd about it at all


in fact it's odd for someone not to sucking their finger and rubbing their nipples around the dinner table...