Diesel to contain 10% fame from 1/1/19

FaganJr · 18-11-2018 04:56PM

theguzman wrote:

We are under EU/German rule so if this is coming from Brussels the Irish vassal Govt are legally bound to introduce it, we do not have a say on the matter.

So IF......

That's all I needed to know, nobody has a clue really and as usual it's just speculation and scare mongering...

ELM327 · 18-11-2018 05:01PM

theguzman wrote: »

We are under EU/German rule so if this is coming from Brussels the Irish vassal Govt are legally bound to introduce it, we do not have a say on the matter.

But the question is, I (as person ELM of the family 327 and not as a citizen) have not consented to this law by this illegal corrupt self appointed government. Therefore this law does not apply to me, right?

Have I done it right? Freeman of the land?

theguzman · 18-11-2018 05:08PM

It is coming from the EU so it has to be introduced.

ShamrockAir · 18-11-2018 05:30PM

I just bought my 1st diesel car, A 2010 Vauxhall Insignia

The Bishop Basher · 18-11-2018 05:48PM

theguzman wrote: »

It is coming from the EU so it has to be introduced.

Like we have to charge for water or take 13bn in taxes from Apple ?

We’re quite capable of telling Europe to fluck off when it suits us..

And by us I don’t mean the tax payer

The Bishop Basher · 18-11-2018 05:49PM

ShamrockAir wrote: »

I just bought my 1st diesel car, A 2010 Vauxhall Insignia

You’ll have many years enjoyment of it..

theguzman · 18-11-2018 06:32PM

Rennaws wrote: »

You’ll have many years enjoyment of it..

And great friendships to be forged with Mechanics and breakdown truck drivers. Even with the correct Diesel those things would break your heart and your wallet.

NewApproach · 18-11-2018 06:34PM

How can the manufacturers continue to sell cars which they know cannot be fueled in the near future?

listermint · 18-11-2018 06:37PM

theguzman wrote: »

It is coming from the EU so it has to be introduced.

Ughh

Youre absolutely painful to read.

Hurts my eyes and my head in equal measure

Eric Cartman · 18-11-2018 06:55PM

it'll be a 3 pump scenario , unleaded, b7, b10 , new cars will be mandated to take this swill and in 15 years itll be impossible to find b7. Same way they phased out leaded.

The new cars will be (like every newer generation of diesels) less reliable and more expensive, pushing more users to EV's and leaving it for hauliers and commercial drivers.

lawred2 · 18-11-2018 06:59PM

theguzman wrote: »

We are under EU/German rule so if this is coming from Brussels the Irish vassal Govt are legally bound to introduce it, we do not have a say on the matter.

Seriously you either need to grow up or inform yourself.

German rule. Makes you sound like a crank.

JJJJNR · 18-11-2018 07:20PM

It's the nice treaty that states all jurisdictions should operate the same and there is no exception. no mention of vrt though that's grand.

clfy39tzve8njq · 18-11-2018 07:28PM

Fake news. Some posters embarrassing themselves, hardly able to hide their glee at such a scenario :-)

Jamemid · 18-11-2018 07:56PM

Can I keep using agri diesel

gctest50 · 18-11-2018 08:37PM

FaganJr wrote: »

I really doubt the government would bring this in without consultation?
..........

There was a consultation

All done properly, all those interested sent in their part

gctest50 · 18-11-2018 08:56PM

And that lead to this :

https://bit.ly/2qQRN54

gctest50 · 18-11-2018 10:13PM

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https://www.dccae.gov.ie/en-ie/news-and-media/consultations/Pages/Biofuel-Obligation-Rate-Consultation.aspx.

Submissions were received from:

Cré

Neste

Valero Energy (Ireland) Limited

An Taisce

Irving Oil

Ethanol Europe Renewables Ltd (EERL)

Irish Bioenergy Association (IrBea)

tcbb RESOURCE

Ryan Institute- NUI Galway

Renewable Gas Forum Ireland (RGFI)

Green Party

SSE Ireland

Oil Firing Technical Association Ireland (OFTEC Ireland)

Teagasc - The Agriculture and Food Development Authority

Society of the Irish Motor Industry (SIMI)

Calor Teoranta

Petrogas Group Ltd.

The Irish Petroleum Industry Association (IPIA)

Inver Energy Ltd.

The Maxol Group

The Irish Cattle & Sheep Farmers' Association (ICSA)

Green Biofuels Ireland

daheff · 18-11-2018 11:40PM

so is this diesel only or petrol too. i just signed up to buy a 191 petrol..... need to know do i need to check petrol acceptability?

Damien360 · 18-11-2018 11:41PM

daheff wrote: »

so is this diesel only or petrol too. i just signed up to buy a 191 petrol..... need to know do i need to check petrol acceptability?

Just Diesel

rex-x · 19-11-2018 01:47AM

Rennaws wrote: »

You’ll have many years enjoyment of it..

From a 2010 diesel insignia....not likely :pac:

gctest50 · 19-11-2018 05:13AM

Damien360 wrote: »

Just Diesel

nope

gctest50 · 19-11-2018 05:15AM

it's like this

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The Bishop Basher · 19-11-2018 06:12AM

rex-x wrote: »

From a 2010 diesel insignia....not likely :pac:

I meant with regard to fuel availability but I do take the point !!

Philb76 · 19-11-2018 10:50AM

koutoubia wrote: »

142 A6 (C7) Diesel.
Sticker inside the fuel door "No Biodiesel"

Jesus H Christ!

Same with the superb thats why It's never had apple green fuel just seeing this thread now is it doomsday or overeaction time I'm genuinely confused

daheff · 19-11-2018 11:08AM

gctest50 wrote: »

nope

so what am I looking for from a petrol perspective? What should I be asking the dealer can the car drive on?

And as of when are the changes happening? Jan 19? jan 20?

traco · 19-11-2018 11:21AM

Philb76 wrote: »

Same with the superb thats why It's never had apple green fuel just seeing this thread now is it doomsday or overeaction time I'm genuinely confused

We run all the cars / vans on Applegreen and have not had any problem with any of them and combined that must be over 200k miles now.

I think its all an over reaction - can you imagine the fall out EU wide with the amount of non compliant diesels in the entire market?

easyvision · 19-11-2018 11:28AM

This is what I don't get, it must be phased on?? That would mean hundreds of millions of cars would not be able to be used over night? Seems odd. Is it like leaded petrol, slowly discontinued to allow people to change cars? Also cars they are still selling now would not be able to be used within a few weeks? Buy a 191 diesel and not be able to use it? Seems like something is getting missed here

jimgoose · 19-11-2018 11:29AM

I would imagine that some small quantity of B10 DERV will be made available at some forecourts. They've already started doing this in France:

https://www.acea.be/publications/article/b10-diesel-fuel-vehicle-compatibility-list

Note that most current passenger vehicle models are NOT compatible with B10 fuel.

Peatys · 19-11-2018 11:56AM

gctest50 wrote: »

solid answers ?

This is the most solid answer anyone could genuinely give :

https://www.citroen.ie

https://www.renault.ie

https://www.peugeot.ie

https://www.dacia.ie

Any chance you'll knock this on the head?

19-11-2018 12:01PM

ShamrockAir wrote: »

I just bought my 1st diesel car, A 2010 Vauxhall Insignia

This is the real travesty in this thread.
Absolute piles of ****e

Diesel to contain 10% fame from 1/1/19

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