letterbox or rather none

slipperyox · 17-11-2018 12:31PM

I wonder would it be a constitutional right to not receive post at your address?

PandaPoo · 17-11-2018 12:40PM

We have a post box on the wall beside our door. We also have a letterbox under the window on the other side of the door. It's hidden behind the kids scooter and porch gets full of leaves. The postman insists on shoving letters through it and we end up with leaves in the hall. Sometimes they're soggy.

He's having a right laugh at us he is. I even put something on the other side to block it off but he still just shoves them in. Ive told him to knock it off and he says grand. But he still does it.

I'm going to rig a bloody shocker to it and send him flying over the wall the miserable oul prick.

AllGunsBlazing · 17-11-2018 12:47PM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hox-ni8geIw

Discodog · 17-11-2018 12:48PM

The simplest is a large box with a padlock. The postman drops the letter/package inside & snaps the lock shut.

The Anpost ones are too small

Uriel. · 17-11-2018 01:25PM

What kind of a size parcel can the an post ones hold?
We've been thinking about getting one for a while because post man always calls in middle of day when we're at work and the post centre is only open Monday to Friday till 7.

Not sure if the post boxes from an post would fully solve out problem If they can only take small parcels.

Discodog · 17-11-2018 02:21PM

Uriel. wrote: »

What kind of a size parcel can the an post ones hold?
We've been thinking about getting one for a while because post man always calls in middle of day when we're at work and the post centre is only open Monday to Friday till 7.

Not sure if the post boxes from an post would fully solve out problem If they can only take small parcels.

One problem could be proof of delivery. I have heard that the electronic signature that the postman gets from the AnPost Box counts as POD.

The Postman won't leave anything, anywhere else, if it needs a signature.

crossmolinalad · 17-11-2018 02:31PM

riclad wrote: »

IF you have no letter box ,how will you recieve gas bill.,s or esb bills ?
if you simply block up the letterbox on the inside, they will stop delivering letters,
letters will be sent back to the sender.
i don,t think the esb or gas company will be happy about that.
i know that junk mail , leaflets from the local pizza/ chinese are annoying.
i don,t think parcels will be delivered unless there is someone at home
to sign for them, in my experience.

Get nothing from anyone , got all of my bills by email ESB and friends would be happy not sending a bill by post to you anymore

crossmolinalad · 17-11-2018 02:39PM

Mr.S wrote: »

How are you going to receive a new bank card once your current one expires, or if you lose it?

Ulster bank sent a text message and then I have to go to their branche to pick up the new card

marklazarcovic · 17-11-2018 02:41PM

Graces7 wrote: »

I use a cat box.... works great.

Do u live in Galway city?

worded · 17-11-2018 02:42PM

What about proze bond win notifications ?
Valentine cards? I get a lot of them

marklazarcovic · 17-11-2018 02:45PM

Uriel. wrote: »

What kind of a size parcel can the an post ones hold?
We've been thinking about getting one for a while because post man always calls in middle of day when we're at work and the post centre is only open Monday to Friday till 7.

Not sure if the post boxes from an post would fully solve out problem If they can only take small parcels.

Think sky box sized ,twice as deep perhaps, slightly taller, grand for mid sized items, barcode supplied with box acts as proof of delivery for scanned items .. but not registered post,that still needs sig.

ytpe2r5bxkn0c1 · 17-11-2018 02:45PM

How would I receive all the books I buy online, my magazine subscriptions, and the copious other items not sent electronically? In a rural setting the letterbox is an absolute must.

Graces7 · 17-11-2018 02:45PM

Discodog wrote: »

One problem could be proof of delivery. I have heard that the electronic signature that the postman gets from the AnPost Box counts as POD.

The Postman won't leave anything, anywhere else, if it needs a signature.

Mine does. As I am disabled and cannot easily get to door or gate I signed a waiver. But then this is a small place and trust applies

Discodog · 17-11-2018 02:54PM

Graces7 wrote: »

Mine does. As I am disabled and cannot easily get to door or gate I signed a waiver. But then this is a small place and trust applies

My old postman used to sign for everything & put it through an open window. It was so useful. Then he retired & they changed the system so that we don't get the same postman each day. Now I have to go to the post office as they ignore my requests to have a neighbour sign for the mail.

Graces7 · 17-11-2018 03:40PM

Discodog wrote: »

My old postman used to sign for everything & put it through an open window. It was so useful. Then he retired & they changed the system s o that we don't get the same postman each day. Now I have to go to the post office as they ignore my requests to have a neighbour sign for the mail.

Ah that is sad. Have you heard of the Jobsworth award?

I also in my waiver letter gave a second local address of a kind neighbour they could deliver to.

Tiny community has its blessings .

He also takes outgoing mail for me; I leave it out for him.

SPDUB · 17-11-2018 04:13PM

Graces7 wrote: »

Ah that is sad. Have you heard of the Jobsworth award?

I also in my waiver letter gave a second local address of a kind neighbour they could deliver to.

Tiny community has its blessings .

He also takes outgoing mail for me; I leave it out for him.

Not Jobsworth .

The retired postman could actually have been fired for signing for items himself and putting it through a window .

In training it is some of the things you are told not to do .

People have sued for breaking their "valuable" vase when items fell on them

Discodog · 17-11-2018 04:20PM

SPDUB wrote: »

Not Jobsworth .

The retired postman could actually have been fired for signing for items himself and putting it through a window .

In training it is some of the things you are told not to do .

People have sued for breaking their "valuable" vase when items fell on them

The retired Postman used to get a very nice Christmas present from me. He offered a valuable, common sense service which are words that don't exist anymore.

A Postie dropped a vase on a customer - really ?

Graces7 · 17-11-2018 04:25PM

SPDUB wrote: »

Not Jobsworth .

The retired postman could actually have been fired for signing for items himself and putting it through a window .

In training it is some of the things you are told not to do .

People have sued for breaking their "valuable" vase when items fell on them

All of your post exemplifies the jobsworth ethos fully ... in small very rural places things are different. and to deny delivery to an often bedbound person who has signed a waiver is ... my postman is also a neighbour..

scuse me please; bed calls loud and ling....or even looooong.... happy evening! over and out....

SPDUB · 17-11-2018 04:52PM

Discodog wrote: »

The retired Postman used to get a very nice Christmas present from me. He offered a valuable, common sense service which are words that don't exist anymore.

A Postie dropped a vase on a customer - really ?

It has only ever been the job of An Post or the P & T to provide a service delivering letters and packets .

if other things happened because of that it was a accident and no member of staff could be disciplined for not doing those things .

If you gave cash at Xmas that's actually bribery of an official in a public office and therefore illegal

All of your post exemplifies the jobsworth ethos fully ... in small very rural places things are different. and to deny delivery to an often bedbound person who has signed a waiver is ... my postman is also a neighbour..

If you have signed a waiver and the local delivery office is aware of it then yes that should be sufficient for your circumstances to be taken into account .

My point is no postman should be doing such things off their own bat because while you might be reasonable there are people who will complain at the drop at the slightest thing .

To give an example years ago when I was on delivery duty I had a woman complain I was holding back her ESB bill because some of her neighbours got theirs before her .

That was just the way they came into the office and she apparently ignored all the other post I put into her house at least every second day so why would I not bring out the ESB bill if I had it

Discodog · 17-11-2018 04:56PM

Graces7 wrote: »

All of your post exemplifies the jobsworth ethos fully ... in small very rural places things are different. and to deny delivery to an often bedbound person who has signed a waiver is ... my postman is also a neighbour..

scuse me please; bed calls loud and ling....or even looooong.... happy evening! over and out....

They introduced a system in rural Wales called Postbus. The postman uses a minibus & takes elderly people on his route. Other areas are getting Postmen to look in on vulnerable people as they deliver mail. It's sad that An Post appear to be going in the opposite direction.

Discodog · 17-11-2018 04:59PM

SPDUB wrote: »

It has only ever been the job of An Post or the P & T to provide a service delivering letters and packets .

if other things happened because of that it was a accident and no member of staff could be disciplined for not doing those things .

If you gave cash at Xmas that's actually bribery of an official in a public office and therefore illegal

If you have signed a waiver and the local delivery office is aware of it then yes that should be sufficient for your circumstances to be taken into account .

My point is no postman should be doing such things off their own bat because while you might be reasonable there are people who will complain at the drop at the slightest thing .

To give an example years ago when I was on delivery duty I had a woman complain I was holding back her ESB bill because some of her neighbours got theirs before her .

That was just the way they came into the office and she apparently ignored all the other post I put into her house at least every second day so why would I not bring out the ESB bill if I had it

:eek: That is absolutely pathetic when you can't reward someone for going beyond the call of duty to actually help people. I will continue being a criminal.

Graces7 · 17-11-2018 05:15PM

Discodog wrote: »

:eek: That is absolutely pathetic when you can't reward someone for going beyond the call of duty to actually help people. I will continue being a criminal.

Alleluia! Me too! The legalism is truly sad and yes pathetic. JOBSWORTH award duly given.

Mrs OBumble · 17-11-2018 05:47PM

Discodog wrote: »

:eek: That is absolutely pathetic when you can't reward someone for going beyond the call of duty to actually help people. I will continue being a criminal.

Rubbish.

Public officials accepting bribes csuses no end of problems.

Discodog · 17-11-2018 05:56PM

Mrs OBumble wrote: »

Rubbish.

Public officials accepting bribes csuses no end of problems.

You really think that rewarding a Postman with €20 is the same as bribing a public official :rolleyes:

kneemos · 17-11-2018 05:58PM

Discodog wrote: »

You really think that rewarding a Postman with €20 is the same as bribing a public official :rolleyes:

Bribe him for what?

Discodog · 17-11-2018 05:59PM

kneemos wrote: »

Bribe him for what?

I don't know. Ask OBumble

Graces7 · 18-11-2018 08:38AM

We had a really good chuckle here about all this.. I once knitted a hat for my postman, and used to make him apple pies..... will freely admit it in court! That was up on a North Sea island and he did so many small kindnesses.

A thankyou gift for kindness and good service is never a bribe.

My postman here once came all the way up from the gate to check I was OK as I had forgotten to gather in the previous day's post.

letterbox or rather none

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