Teachers in Ireland too white and too irish?

mammajamma · 14-11-2018 04:34PM #1

"Recent research has found that while Ireland’s school student population is now highly diverse, teachers here continue to be overwhelmingly 'white Irish' and middle class."

"This initiative hopes to help change that profile."

As reported yesterday by RTE on the Marino Institute https://www.rte.ie/news/education/2018/1114/1010753-immigrant-teachers/

So just like the housing situation being a disaster, yet the government planning on a further million people in their 2040 "vision", we also have a seriously bad situation for teachers in the country, so lets throw fuel on the fire! Makes sense in down-is-up land.

I know several teachers struggling for years now to get a stable job, and then you have these genius ideas as above to "help" the problem.

What kind of joke is this? The inference is that a non-European ("white", never mind just irish) should be able to come here, and not only that, irish teachers should "make room" for non-European teachers to teach their children too.

Why don't irish people just leave the country all together, sure we're basically just getting in the way of "progress". The various entities, loud mouths, useful idiots and even government have a lot to answer for, this environment that is being artificially created is downright toxic for irish people.

Or maybe some people here agree that irish teachers are too white and too irish for our "own" good?

EDIT: My quote from RTE states "white and Irish", but the actual quote should also include "female". Now isn't that weird?! That RTE would purposefully leave out one element? Golly gosh!

EDIT 2:
Find below an exemplar of the mindset that wants this to happen on a much greater scale. Read this post from elsewhere in the thread and weep!

"If we open up closed industries and roles to a larger labour force, we can get better people. Otherwise, these industries grow old and stale, with inertia kicking in.

Do you think the Gardai and the Public Sector could not be improved?
These roles should reflect the community they police, educate and administer.

As to your last point, are you afraid of competition?"

Youre not good enough, irish people, sorry! We're running a factory now, its not a home anymore!

rtgdfd · 14-11-2018 04:36PM

What's wrong with being White and Irish?.

14-11-2018 04:37PM

Didn't we have this thread already a few weeks ago?

Wabbit Ears · 14-11-2018 04:37PM

If Johnny splits the coke 5 ways, how much do you sell each baggie for?

DEFTLEFTHAND · 14-11-2018 04:38PM

rtgdfd wrote: »

What's wrong with being White and Irish?.

I could never understand why everyone wants to live with the whites if they hate them and their countries so much.

mammajamma · 14-11-2018 04:39PM

rtgdfd wrote: »

What's wrong with being White and Irish?.

Its not part of the "initiative".

For anyone interested in signing up, do so here

https://www.mie.ie/en/Research/Migrant_Teacher_Project/

Just emphasise how non-white and non-irish you are.

PlaneSpeeking · 14-11-2018 04:40PM

rtgdfd wrote: »

What's wrong with being White and Irish?.

Apparently we're evil.

I'm glad I'm a woman, you get a couple of brownie points more.

Bob Harris · 14-11-2018 04:41PM

So in a class of 30 kids where 25 will be Irish, 2 Polish, 1 Latvian, 1 Nigerian and 1 traveller,
what nationality should the teacher be?

mammajamma · 14-11-2018 04:41PM

Wabbit Ears wrote: »

If Johnny splits the coke 5 ways, how much do you sell each baggie for?

Im sorry, I couldn't understand your math question because you're far too white and irish. Just cant absorb information because of the colour of your skin and ethnicity.

iamwhoiam · 14-11-2018 04:41PM

How can we be too Irish ?

mammajamma · 14-11-2018 04:42PM

riffmongous wrote: »

Didn't we have this thread already a few weeks ago?

I don't know, but its being reported from RTE today/last night.

mammajamma · 14-11-2018 04:44PM

Its not just the insult for being white and irish, its also the employment situation for teachers. Its abysmal, so this is like a double whammy.

You might even put a tinfoil hat on your head and guess that they are...connected!

PlaneSpeeking · 14-11-2018 04:44PM

Bob Harris wrote: »

So in a class of 30 kids where 25 will be Irish, 2 Polish, 1 Latvian and 1 Nigerian,
what nationality should the teacher be?

Gender fluid Muslim, obvs.

jimgoose · 14-11-2018 04:45PM

rtgdfd wrote: »

What's wrong with being White and Irish?.

Nothing, as far as I can make out - we just need to tone it down a bit. Less GAA jerseys and "Jaysis the weather is shockin' ta Christ altogther so it is so it is!!" and more in the way of traditional Watusi printed cloth and reciting the Gayatri Mantra instead of "Bong-Bong-Bong... " at 6pm.

CinemaGuy45 · 14-11-2018 04:47PM

mammajamma wrote: »

"Recent research has found that while Ireland’s school student population is now highly diverse, teachers here continue to be overwhelmingly 'white Irish' and middle class."

"This initiative hopes to help change that profile."

As reported yesterday by RTE on the Marino Institute https://www.rte.ie/news/education/2018/1114/1010753-immigrant-teachers/

So just like the housing situation is a disaster, yet the government planning on a further million people in their 2040 "vision", we also have a seriously bad situation for teachers in the country, so let's throw fuel on the fire! Makes sense in the down-is-up land.

I know several teachers struggling for years now to get a stable job, and then you have these genius ideas as above to "help" the problem.

What kind of joke is this? The inference is that a non-European ("white", never mind just Irish) should be able to come here, and not only that, Irish teachers should "make room" for non-European teachers to teach their children too.

Why don't Irish people just leave the country altogether, sure we're basically just getting in the way of "progress"? The various entities, loudmouths, useful idiots and even government have a lot to answer for, this environment that is being artificially created is downright toxic for Irish people.

Or maybe some people here agree that Irish teachers are too white and too Irish for our "own" good?

Look you're on the wrong forum and while I agree with you mostly here is what is going to happen in this thread.

Prepare for 3 or 4 leftwing trolls to start calling you a big racist and asking you for links and sources.
Some people will back you up and get angry with the trolls and go too far.

A load of people will be banned from posting on this thread and the people that are left will just drift away and the thread will sink off the board.

Let me again stress that I mostly agree with you but getting into this subject here is not worth a ban and I find boards.ie useful for many other things.

Just a bit of friendly advice.:)

MonkeyTennis · 14-11-2018 04:47PM

Thats not what is says at all though. Its a training course to help non Irish people who are already here and hold teaching qualifications

wexie · 14-11-2018 04:48PM

riffmongous wrote: »

Didn't we have this thread already a few weeks ago?

For some people the outrage over there being non white, non irish people in the country (that want to work) just never ends.

Must be hard work

14-11-2018 04:48PM

OP left one out. White, Irish and female, but it is not cool to mention

PlaneSpeeking · 14-11-2018 04:49PM

Deleted User wrote: »

OP left one out. White, Irish and female, but it is not cool to mention

Ah come on - I'm okay!!!!!

Samuel Vimes · 14-11-2018 04:49PM

mammajamma wrote: »

"Recent research has found that while Ireland’s school student population is now highly diverse, teachers here continue to be overwhelmingly 'white Irish' and middle class."

"This initiative hopes to help change that profile."

As reported yesterday by RTE on the Marino Institute https://www.rte.ie/news/education/2018/1114/1010753-immigrant-teachers/

So just like the housing situation being a disaster, yet the government planning on a further million people in their 2040 "vision", we also have a seriously bad situation for teachers in the country, so lets throw fuel on the fire! Makes sense in down-is-up land.

I know several teachers struggling for years now to get a stable job, and then you have these genius ideas as above to "help" the problem.

What kind of joke is this? The inference is that a non-European ("white", never mind just irish) should be able to come here, and not only that, irish teachers should "make room" for non-European teachers to teach their children too.

Why don't irish people just leave the country all together, sure we're basically just getting in the way of "progress". The various entities, loud mouths, useful idiots and even government have a lot to answer for, this environment that is being artificially created is downright toxic for irish people.

Or maybe some people here agree that irish teachers are too white and too irish for our "own" good?

Here we go again
Another anti immigration rant

Terrlock · 14-11-2018 04:49PM

Are they just inventing non issues - peddling them as issues in the media - then making life worse for everyone.

Rather then actually fixing our real issues - like Healthcare, Housing, Homelessness.. etc.

El_Duderino 09 · 14-11-2018 04:50PM

Bob Harris wrote: »

So in a class of 30 kids where 25 will be Irish, 2 Polish, 1 Latvian and 1 Nigerian,
what nationality should the teacher be?

Where did the other child go? That’s what I’d be wondering.

For Forks Sake · 14-11-2018 04:51PM

El_Duderino 09 wrote: »

Where did the other child go? That’s what I’d be wondering.

'travelling'

jimgoose · 14-11-2018 04:51PM

For Forks Sake wrote: »

'travelling'

Oh now you've done it...

CinemaGuy45 · 14-11-2018 04:53PM

Samuel Vimes wrote: »

Here we go again
Another anti-immigration rant

MFPM · 14-11-2018 04:53PM

mammajamma wrote: »

"Recent research has found that while Ireland’s school student population is now highly diverse, teachers here continue to be overwhelmingly 'white Irish' and middle class."

"This initiative hopes to help change that profile."

As reported yesterday by RTE on the Marino Institute https://www.rte.ie/news/education/2018/1114/1010753-immigrant-teachers/

So just like the housing situation being a disaster, yet the government planning on a further million people in their 2040 "vision", we also have a seriously bad situation for teachers in the country, so lets throw fuel on the fire! Makes sense in down-is-up land.

I know several teachers struggling for years now to get a stable job, and then you have these genius ideas as above to "help" the problem.

What kind of joke is this? The inference is that a non-European ("white", never mind just irish) should be able to come here, and not only that, irish teachers should "make room" for non-European teachers to teach their children too.

Why don't irish people just leave the country all together, sure we're basically just getting in the way of "progress". The various entities, loud mouths, useful idiots and even government have a lot to answer for, this environment that is being artificially created is downright toxic for irish people.

Or maybe some people here agree that irish teachers are too white and too irish for our "own" good?

Another day, another pile of anti migrant nonsense from the self professed anti immigrant poster.

Just for accuracy the initiative is simple, straight forward and welcome...

A new programme aimed at helping immigrant teachers find work in Irish schools opens to applicants today.

The course, at Dublin’s Marino Institute of Education, aims to provide immigrants who are qualified teachers, but not working as such, with the knowledge, skills, and confidence to enable them to find employment here.

For anyone to object to this is utterly absurd.

mammajamma · 14-11-2018 04:53PM

CinemaGuy45 wrote: »

Look you're on the wrong forum and while I totally agree with you here is what is going to happen in this thread.

Prepare for 3 or 4 leftwing trolls to start calling you a big racist and asking you for links and sources.
Some people will back you up and get angry with the trolls and go too far.

A load of people will be banned from posting on this thread and the people that are left will just drift away and the thread will sink off the board.

Let me again stress that I 100% agree with you but getting into this subject here is not worth a ban and I find boards.ie useful for many other things.

Just a bit of friendly advice.:)

Yeah I appreciate that, but these lunatics are only getting away with these agendas because people are either (purposefully) disenfranchised, afraid to say anything, or both.

Its the silence that kills us. So even if a couple more people read this post, its better than yet another agenda-laced initiative slipping under the radar.

I'll stand my position in good faith against any argument that doesn't equate "don't mention this/don't talk about this/be quiet".

For Forks Sake · 14-11-2018 04:54PM

jimgoose wrote: »

Oh now you've done it...

mammajamma · 14-11-2018 04:55PM

MonkeyTennis wrote: »

Thats not what is says at all though. Its a training course to help non Irish people who are already here and hold teaching qualifications

I have quoted in the opening post. The inference is crystal clear.

MFPM · 14-11-2018 04:55PM

Samuel Vimes wrote: »

Here we go again
Another anti immigration rant

She's not subtle is she, the extrapolation by her from the report leaves no doubt about her motivation, talk about exaggeration.

professore · 14-11-2018 04:55PM

Definitely a strong case for non nationals to teach languages. And as many on here will testify I am far from a loony leftist.

Teachers in Ireland too white and too irish?

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