Autumn Internationals Team Announcement/Talk

Eod100 · 10-11-2018 05:23PM

Anyone able to tell me what channel Wales v Australia and France v SA matches are on? Can't seem to find them in listings here

sydthebeat · 10-11-2018 05:24PM

England very unlucky.... But if you can't score for 60 mins of the game that's what happens.
I personally didn't think lawes was off side, his feet were in line with his own players head.
During the game I think the result is fair enough, the stats will be hugely in the favour of the abs when they come out, though they didn't exactly create anything of true brilliance.... The weather was a leveller.

England will take great confidence from that, and if they smash a poor Australian team next weekend their Nov will have been a success and they will be a force to reckon with come 6N time.

Jump_In_Jack · 10-11-2018 05:25PM

Eod100 wrote: »

Anyone able to tell me what channel Wales v Australia and France v SA matches are on? Can't seem to find them in listings here

Bbc2
Eir 2

clsmooth · 10-11-2018 05:25PM

GDK_11 wrote: »

Pretty simplistic view. Quite probably should have had a try and turned down a kickable penalty or two.
We kept NZ scoreless for nearly 40 minutes, they must be crap.

I wouldn’t even have justified the post with a response

Good performance from England. Question is can they repeat that consistently.

bilston · 10-11-2018 05:26PM

penybont exile wrote: »

I don't think it was the correct call.

There was ever more blatant offside call 60 seconds from the end .... ignored by the touch judge and ref.

They shouldn't have even been looking at the Lewes incident .... way too close to call.

In the Jock game earlier their was a knock on leading up to 2nd try ... where was the tmo? Nowhere ..... he intervened 30 seconds later as Scotland crossed the line.

Too much TMO ... not a good thing IMO ...the ref needs the balls to make the decision on the field. Say thanks ... but no thanks Mr TMO

I don't know if it was the right or wrong call, it was really really close. However to me it wasn't all that clear, in the same way it wasn't clear (allegedly) that Farrell didn't wrap his arms last week. As I said before it is TMO overkill.

corny · 10-11-2018 05:26PM

Reed was offside by quite a bit in the last couple of minutes. Don't know how NZ weren't penalised for not rolling away either. Care was trying to milk it of course but one tackler had a hold of an English players ankles and made no attempt to roll. Held on to the tackled player for an eternity too.

GDK_11 · 10-11-2018 05:27PM

clsmooth wrote: »

Has Underhill properly announced himself? Hasn’t had too much of a run since that Wales cover tackle?

He was very good today. There were high expectations of him when he came from the Ospreys as the great hope at 7. Slow start and he’s had some concussion issues I believe,
Back row has been very poor for a while, himself and Curry look like they could step up.
He definitely has the physical aspect anyway

Clegg · 10-11-2018 05:27PM

GDK_11 wrote: »

Won’t be a popular opinion here through all the glee but thought England were good today. From where we were in the 6 nations it’s a massive improvement.
Disappointed to lose by 1, thought the try was good but also thought it was a penalty last week so swings and roundabouts.

No shame losing to NZ. The reality is if every team plays to their max they would win, you need them to be a couple of percent off and your side at their max to get the win. That’s how good they are.

They aren't a bad side despite their awful results from last season. That particular side had reached its natural conclusion and were in need of new players to come in.

They're a work in progress though and you could see that after the opening 30 minutes they were mostly out of ideas. They played on emotion and guts. Something that has a place in pro rugby but isn't sustainable over 80 minutes. They need to work on backline attack and set piece. They look decent at the breakdown and in defence though. Very cynical and got away with a lot. Slowed down NZ attack.

Eod100 · 10-11-2018 05:28PM

Jump_In_Jack wrote: »

Bbc2
Eir 2

Thanks for that!

jr86 · 10-11-2018 05:28PM

lapua20grain wrote: »

Always have been, delighted they lost better team won don't think this is a resurgence by England they raised their game for this match and will fall back to their old ways against Australia.

And will still win... Australia are having a brutal year

They're a shadow of their sides of old, I would be amazed if England din't win it with a bit to spare

GDK_11 · 10-11-2018 05:29PM

clsmooth wrote: »

I wouldn’t even have justified the post with a response

Good performance from England. Question is can they repeat that consistently.

Yeah I bit ðŸ€£.
Still a way behind NZ and Ireland for that matter but nice to see them fronting up a bit more

Clegg · 10-11-2018 05:30PM

Pass looked forward from Hooper.

Bit that was an awful bit of play from the Oz 13 subsequently.

AbusesToilets · 10-11-2018 05:31PM

bilston wrote: »

I don't know if it was the right or wrong call, it was really really close. However to me it wasn't all that clear, in the same way it wasn't clear (allegedly) that Farrell didn't wrap his arms last week. As I said before it is TMO overkill.

If it was the NFL, it would fail the Clear and Obvious reason to overturn the one field call. Personally, I think calls like that should go in favor of the attacking team, as it were.

Losty Dublin · 10-11-2018 05:32PM

The pre match event at Cardiff was really tastefully done; simple and sobering.

almostover · 10-11-2018 05:33PM

Lawes a fraction ahead of the forward most foot. Correct decision. Fine margins yes but by the letter of the law it's correct.

The Dagestani Eagle · 10-11-2018 05:33PM

sydthebeat wrote: »

England very unlucky.... But if you can't score for 60 mins of the game that's what happens.
I personally didn't think lawes was off side, his feet were in line with his own players head.
During the game I think the result is fair enough, the stats will be hugely in the favour of the abs when they come out, though they didn't exactly create anything of true brilliance.... The weather was a leveller.

England will take great confidence from that, and if they smash a poor Australian team next weekend their Nov will have been a success and they will be a force to reckon with come 6N time.

The weather definitely was a leveller, but it is an option that will be more welcomed from neutrals than nz fans

clsmooth · 10-11-2018 05:34PM

GDK_11 wrote: »

Yeah I bit ��.
Still a way behind NZ and Ireland for that matter but nice to see them fronting up a bit more

Lots of positives to take. Would but be a little concerned that England have faded 3 times this year after running up and early score in first 20. Watson did his Achilles a second time right? Mall and Billy Vunipoola will make a huge improvemnt to that pack. Billy’s been particularly unlucky with injury

vetinari · 10-11-2018 05:39PM

almostover wrote: »

Lawes a fraction ahead of the forward most foot. Correct decision. Fine margins yes but by the letter of the law it's correct.

Are you judging against the All Black player's foot on the left of Lawes?
That guy has gone past the ruck imo.
Really wish they'd start penalizing the tactic of charging past the ruck as a way to prevent counter ruckers. I know everyone does it.

Clegg · 10-11-2018 05:42PM

I wish Aaron Smith hadn't picked today's game to have a stinker. He'll be a lot better next week. Which is rather unfortunate.

The Dagestani Eagle · 10-11-2018 05:43PM

Clegg wrote: »

I wish Aaron Smith hadn't picked today's game to have a stinker. He'll be a lot better next week. Which is rather unfortunate.

i think they are a better team with Ben from accounts at 15. But if they want to insist on two playmakers then just go with Dick Mo and spongebob from the outset.

Losty Dublin · 10-11-2018 05:43PM

Not mind blowing stuff in Cardiff. Wales are picking and driving then going wide without making a lot of space early on. The visitors are sitting back and are not showing a lot in absorbing that what is thrown at them by the Welsh. Both teams are waiting for mistakes as if they will come.

almostover · 10-11-2018 05:44PM

vetinari wrote: »

Are you judging against the All Black player's foot on the left of Lawes?
That guy has gone past the ruck imo.
Really wish they'd start penalizing the tactic of charging past the ruck as a way to prevent counter ruckers. I know everyone does it.

Fine margins isnt it, can see your point but it seems the TMO judged that player to be part of the ruck and I think he's correct by the letter of the law.

sydthebeat · 10-11-2018 05:45PM

Clegg wrote: »

I wish Aaron Smith hadn't picked today's game to have a stinker. He'll be a lot better next week. Which is rather unfortunate.

Wouldn't be surprised to see TJ starting.

Smith is there for his kicking game and I eclectic the ABs to play a higher tempo game against us, try to break up the play as much as possible and to make us as unstructured as they can

GDK_11 · 10-11-2018 05:46PM

clsmooth wrote: »

Lots of positives to take. Would but be a little concerned that England have faded 3 times this year after running up and early score in first 20. Watson did his Achilles a second time right? Mall and Billy Vunipoola will make a huge improvemnt to that pack. Billy’s been particularly unlucky with injury

Watson was Achilles for the second time alright, out until at least the start of the 6 nations by all accounts. If he gets back to form he’s a massive plus.

Personal opinion is Billy V is the key to that whole team, breaks the gain line every time and drags other players in creating space. His injuries are a concern though, heading in to Manu territory.

Should be a cracker next week, Ireland in with a decent shout for sure.

The Dagestani Eagle · 10-11-2018 05:46PM

GDK_11 wrote: »

Watson was Achilles for the second time alright, out until at least the start of the 6 nations by all accounts. If he gets back to form he’s a massive plus.

Personal opinion is Billy V is the key to that whole team, breaks the gain line every time and drags other players in creating space. His injuries are a concern though, heading in to Manu territory.

Should be a cracker next week, Ireland in with a decent shout for sure.

Ireland clear favourites for me.

The Dagestani Eagle · 10-11-2018 05:47PM

Barnes next week too for the NZ game.........

clsmooth · 10-11-2018 05:48PM

GDK_11 wrote: »

Watson was Achilles for the second time alright, out until at least the start of the 6 nations by all accounts. If he gets back to form he’s a massive plus.

Personal opinion is Billy V is the key to that whole team, breaks the gain line every time and drags other players in creating space. His injuries are a concern though, heading in to Manu territory.

Should be a cracker next week, Ireland in with a decent shout for sure.

It must be a good 18months out for Billy by now. Remember him being rushed back for Ire Eng 6N in 2017. Has he had much of a run at club level in that time? Bit of a SOB situation.

Former Former · 10-11-2018 05:49PM

The Dagestani Eagle wrote: »

Across the board, nation to nation, game to game , it is being reffed appallingly .

They ref the scoreboard, the clock and the "protagonists" .
Every team in every game can feel justifiably aggrieved .
Are the rules too complex?
Are the refs weak?
Do local tv producers have influence?
Are we pedantic?

Every game.

The problem is not the refs. It's the fans. It's people like you.

The Dagestani Eagle · 10-11-2018 05:50PM

100 test wins for Kezza. Thats remarkable for a non McCaw

clsmooth · 10-11-2018 05:51PM

The Dagestani Eagle wrote: »

Ireland clear favourites for me.

This was one too many for me

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