Dublin's Inner City 'Zombies'

corner of hells · 08-11-2018 12:43pm

Topdolla wrote: »

The reason they are all walking the streets during the day is something called the freephone, they have to ring for a bed each day and the hostels don't open till 6.30, so after they have a hostel to go to the streets clear up and after 10.30 they are all in. Unless they are on the street or have a 24hr, 6 month bed.

This system has to change its an absolute joke!!!

Free phone ,ONO system has got to one the worst things about homelessness , unless you're in it or aware of it you couldn't understand how it destoys people.

Saps dignity and is responsible for deaths if rough sleepers

Topdolla · 08-11-2018 12:46pm

Boom_Bap wrote: »

Not quite.
In the morning, their high has worn off.
The morning is about scrambling to get money together to buy gear and selling the goods they have acquired to get money.
The afternoon is when they meet the dealers.
Then they scuttle off to wherever they go to get high and then repeat the cycle the next morning.

Not quite yourself.
Dealers don't only work in the afternoon lmao
Addicts get paid by the social welfare, get lends, get drugs on lay and of course steal to feed their habit mainly phones and usually give the dealers the phones for stuff or debts.

A bag of heroin only costs 15-20 euro, and it is sold in the hostels aswel as on the street so they can be high from the moment they wake up or if they don't have money they won't be high but still walk around like a zombie because they are sick and need there fix.

Deebles McBeebles · 08-11-2018 12:51pm

wakka12 wrote: »

I am very much a softie, not a hope Id win a fight with almost anybody, Ive never felt even slightly threatened in dublin city centre, certain folk Id avoid if I saw them at the end of a quiet street at night but if you keep your wits about you youll be fine.
Dublin is SO safe compared to nearly everywhere in the world I nearly feel a bit bad for anyone who thinks its 'dangerous', dont know how the poor chaps will make it in the world if they think that

It can be dangerous though, just look at the news. The reason it can be more dangerous than anyplace else in the country is because it has a higher population and a higher proportion of people who have nowt to lose.

This is coming from someone who has never been afraid to walk the city centre streets at night.

dfx- · 08-11-2018 12:51pm

Princess Consuela Bananahammock wrote: »

It's not specifci to the drug problem (well, not the illegal ones, anyway) - try being in Temple Bar around to 2am on a weekend when you're sober. It's like a scene from the Walking Dead.

(I could also make an argument for 8.30am on Monday morning...)

Yes, the most ugly/dangerous time in Dublin city centre is when the non-tracksuited, tired and emotional hoardes have to get home at the same time after a night out at 3am.

"The visuals" are terrible.

Topdolla · 08-11-2018 12:55pm

corner of hells wrote: »

Free phone ,ONO system has got to one the worst things about homelessness , unless you're in it or aware of it you couldn't understand how it destoys people.

Saps dignity and is responsible for deaths if rough sleepers

I am on it and have been given sleeping bags while begging for a bed as I work two jobs, the end up having to beg for a couch or pay for a backpackers hostel, Im in work right now and don't finish till 7 so can't ring for a bed till 10.30 with no guarantee of one, even though there are beds available there is one guy on the freephone who loves giving out sleeping bags

murpho999 · 08-11-2018 12:57pm

Deebles McBeebles wrote: »

It can be dangerous though, just look at the news. The reason it can be more dangerous than anyplace else in the country is because it has a higher population and a higher proportion of people who have nowt to lose.

This is coming from someone who has never been afraid to walk the city centre streets at night.

How is it dangerous?

Look at what on the news? What are you referring to?

Deebles McBeebles · 08-11-2018 1:05pm

murpho999 wrote: »

How is it dangerous?

Look at what on the news? What are you referring to?

Are you saying Dublin is not dangerous? Its a kind of utopia where crime never happens? I get playing it down as some folks are going OTT but c'mon.

I'm referring to the crimes that happen in Dublin city centre, like in any other city or large town.

wakka12 · 08-11-2018 1:08pm

Deebles McBeebles wrote: »

It can be dangerous though, just look at the news. The reason it can be more dangerous than anyplace else in the country is because it has a higher population and a higher proportion of people who have nowt to lose.

This is coming from someone who has never been afraid to walk the city centre streets at night.

Yeh pretty much the only poeple who are victims of violent crime in Dublin are involved with drugs and gangs though, of course crime is higher in dublin than the rest of the country because violent crime in nearly non existant in rural areas, same with all cities in comparison to their rural areas. Posters were saying dublin is antisocial/dangerous compared to other major first world citie,s which its not

Deebles McBeebles · 08-11-2018 1:12pm

wakka12 wrote: »

Yeh pretty much the only poeple who are victims of violent crime in Dublin are involved with drugs and gangs though, of course crime is higher in dublin than the rest of the country because violent crime in nearly non existant in rural areas, same with all cities in comparison to their rural areas. Posters were saying dublin is antisocial/dangerous compared to other major first world citie,s which its not

I wouldn't say violent crime is non-existent in rural areas though, not at all. Its getting as bad as urban areas these days.

bodice ripper · 08-11-2018 1:17pm

Kermit.de.frog wrote:

Hooker?

I was going to mention that I spent three years working in the Red light district in Amsterdam, but I was trying to avoid this comment...

Pkiernan · 08-11-2018 1:18pm

AndrewJRenko wrote: »

So which countries/cities have solved this problem by (presumably) ending welfare, budget increases and a far right approach to crime?

Japan.

Oasis1974 · 08-11-2018 1:22pm

San Francisco has a website and a phone number to report human excrement found on the streets of the city its such a big problem from the homeless.

Ferris_Bueller · 08-11-2018 1:29pm

Not sure statistically how Dublin compares with other cities but it is certainly more noticeable than most, on an average day/night in Dublin I'd say I get approached by at least 3 homeless/drug addicts and everywhere you walk in the city it is very noticeable. In fairness I have never had a bad experience with any of them and whenever I am approached they are usually polite and you would have sympathy for a lot of them, I would say Dublin is safer than most cities but visually you notice a lot more homeless and drug addicts than almost anywhere else I've been.

Princess Consuela Bananahammock · 08-11-2018 1:35pm

dfx- wrote: »

Yes, the most ugly/dangerous time in Dublin city centre is when the non-tracksuited, tired and emotional hoardes have to get home at the same time after a night out at 3am.

"The visuals" are terrible.

Would have thought it obvious but: I'm talking about a different type of drug.

Would also have thought you'd know alcohol is not a hallucinogenic substance.

Goodshape · 08-11-2018 1:46pm

I live right across the road from Connolly Station. Walk down and up Talbot street and along the quays at least twice a day.

It's not the nicest part of town, always a few people you're not going to want to interact with, but it's very far from the hellhole some people here are describing.

I mean, it's a city centre. And right next to a transport hub. I'm not going to be counting my bundle of €50 notes out loud while I saunter along side alleys with my backpack open... but it's not dangerous.

Topdolla · 08-11-2018 2:11pm

Goodshape wrote: »

I live right across the road from Connolly Station. Walk down and up Talbot street and along the quays at least twice a day.

It's not the nicest part of town, always a few people you're not going to want to interact with, but it's very far from the hellhole some people here are describing.

I mean, it's a city centre. And right next to a transport hub. I'm not going to be counting my bundle of €50 notes out loud while I saunter along side alleys with my backpack open... but it's not dangerous.

I seen a junkie snatch an old ladies handbag in this area right under the bridge across from Paddy Power, you don't have to be counting your money out loud to have ur wallet or purse snatch get a grip, Dublin can be dangerous but far from the most dangerous place to be, some fella tried to Rob me a few months ago and had a blade, I ran away, another time some guy asked me for a smoke and I said I don't smoke, the guy was with two mates, one with a bag full of bottles and the other guy was like u being smart give him a ****ing smoke and we squared up while the little one tried to dip my pockets, I was about to swing and some guy stepped in and said what ya looking for lads a smoke here ya go and they went on their way.

But I'm just an easy target I guess lmao 90kg and muscular, they don't give a ****, I would like to hear some more people's examples of why Dublin can be dangerous

Dublin is a nice city with decent people like that guy that stopped them and gave them a smoke.
But there are plenty of core rotted apples in town

corner of hells · 08-11-2018 2:17pm

Topdolla wrote: »

I am on it and have been given sleeping bags while begging for a bed as I work two jobs, the end up having to beg for a couch or pay for a backpackers hostel, Im in work right now and don't finish till 7 so can't ring for a bed till 10.30 with no guarantee of one, even though there are beds available there is one guy on the freephone who loves giving out sleeping bags

Hopefully you get an STA or a TEA bed sometime soon.

sbsquarepants · 08-11-2018 2:23pm

SHOVELLER wrote: »

Dublin is unique to have treatment centres in the city centre..

No it's not.

I stayed in Frankfurt a while back and there was a needle exchange of some sort about 10 doors away from my hotel - slap bang in the city centre. It was between the brothel and whatever the German equivalent of londis is!

Some of the worst places I've seen for junkies are Paris and Brussels. Dublin has it's share of junkies but the place is hardly over run with them. Alcohol is our problem!

Chinasea · 08-11-2018 2:27pm

Topdolla wrote: »

I is one guy on the freephone who loves giving out sleeping bags

It would be great if the once used discarded sleeping bags were collected off the streets each morning. There are several strewn all over the place each morning.

MonkieSocks · 08-11-2018 2:29pm

bodice ripper wrote: »

I was going to mention that I spent three years working in the Red light district in Amsterdam, but I was trying to avoid this comment...

My Favourite to window shop.

Especially when there is a Sale on

Goodshape · 08-11-2018 2:38pm

Topdolla wrote: »

you don't have to be counting your money out loud to have ur wallet or purse snatch get a grip

Ah, I know. I was being a bit light about it.

**** happens and it's not nice when it does. It's a city centre. But it's not a "no-go area" or a hellhole or anything close to it.

We can maybe acknowledge that it's not perfect without pretending it's the worst place on earth.

SHOVELLER · 08-11-2018 4:21pm

Interested Observer wrote: »

Why on Earth would they hang around on the Mall? There's nothing there.

Really?!:D:D

sbsquarepants wrote: »

No it's not.

I stayed in Frankfurt a while back and there was a needle exchange of some sort about 10 doors away from my hotel - slap bang in the city centre. It was between the brothel and whatever the German equivalent of londis is!

Some of the worst places I've seen for junkies are Paris and Brussels. Dublin has it's share of junkies but the place is hardly over run with them. Alcohol is our problem!

Alcohol is legal

Dublin Spur · 08-11-2018 4:39pm

Goodshape wrote: »

I live right across the road from Connolly Station. Walk down and up Talbot street and along the quays at least twice a day.

It's not the nicest part of town, always a few people you're not going to want to interact with, but it's very far from the hellhole some people here are describing.

I mean, it's a city centre. And right next to a transport hub. I'm not going to be counting my bundle of €50 notes out loud while I saunter along side alleys with my backpack open... but it's not dangerous.

Mmmmm not sure about that,

I work off Talbot St a few of the girls on the office have been assaulted for their phones, some very violently. Whilst I agree that it's not extremely dangerous, it's still pretty grim and dirty 24/7.

I see the same 'characters' all the time in differing stages of 'out of it' shouting and stumbling around, its very sad and I can see why people would be intimidated.

From what I can see there nothing being to to clean the place up. Its been a kip for centuries and there's no policing or political appetite to fix it.

It is what it is

Sycamore Tree · 08-11-2018 4:53pm

Princess Consuela Bananahammock wrote: »

Clearly you don't visit Dublin often. If at all.

Nonsense, I am there tomorrow until Sunday and I will avoid the Zombie city centre like the plague.

For the size of the city, it really does seem to have an incredible proportion of zombies and scumbags.

corner of hells · 08-11-2018 5:00pm

Sycamore Tree wrote: »

Nonsense, I am there tomorrow until Sunday and I will avoid the Zombie city centre like the plague.

For the size of the city, it really does seem to have an incredible proportion of zombies and scumbags.

You poor soul ,maybe you should check in here every so often just so we know you're ok.

Greyfox · 08-11-2018 5:01pm

I've worked in the city centre almost all my life and even use to have to walk through that kip summerhill and yet I've never been robbed, it is what it is, a place with some crime but nothing massive. Dublin does have a junkie problem but the walking dead are mostly easy to ignore

suicide_circus · 08-11-2018 5:03pm

The area around Christchurch is benzo central

Shelli2 · 08-11-2018 5:05pm

Born an bred in Dublin, worked and socialised in the city centre for most of my adult life - O'Connell St to be precise - I would have to agree that it really has gotten worse over the last few years.
I noticed it during my last year of working on O'Connell street in 2014, and then every time I visited subsequently, which was every second week or so. I often wondered was the heroin problem getting that much worse, or was it just more out in the open?

The final straw for me was 2017 when my then 9 year old got a smack in the face from a flailing 'zombie' who was re-enacting a fight of some sort for his zombie mate. I had two kids with me and pulled one out of the way, only to have the other smacked as he swung around the other way. This was in about 2pm on a summers day outside Supermacs. That was the end of our 'Town' adventures and nice lunches and visits to comic stores.

I actively avoid the city centre at all costs now.

murpho999 · 08-11-2018 5:33pm

Deebles McBeebles wrote: »

Are you saying Dublin is not dangerous? Its a kind of utopia where crime never happens? I get playing it down as some folks are going OTT but c'mon.

I'm referring to the crimes that happen in Dublin city centre, like in any other city or large town.

You said look at the news, so I'm asking what crimes are you referring to? Please share the article that evidnces your claim of Dublin being dangerous.

Can you also name anywhere in the world where crime does not happen?

Have you seen other places? 5 fatal stabbings in the last week in London alone.

That's a fact backed by an article.

Dublin is nowhere near that level despite what people think or say.

Princess Consuela Bananahammock · 08-11-2018 5:36pm

Interested Observer wrote: »

Why on Earth would they hang around on the Mall? There's nothing there.

It's traditional - haven't you seen Dawn of the Dead? (I believe the mall was actually chosen to highlight the automation and brainlessness of commerciality, but that's for a different thread)

SHOVELLER wrote: »

Alcohol is legal

Doesn't mean it's not a problem.

Dublin's Inner City 'Zombies'

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