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Donald Trump is the President Mark IV (Read Mod Warning in OP)

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  • #8252
    Captain Obvious
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,165 ✭✭✭Captain Obvious


    MadYaker wrote: »
    Just on that clip of trump and the CNN reporter. The CNN reporter asked a few questions and trump answered them. Then when trump tries to move on to another reporter that guy just keeps trying to ask more questions even though he had his chance and now trumps moving on. It’s not a CNN interview with trump it’s a press conference. There’s a load of reporters and they all have to get a chance to ask questions. Seemed to me like the reporter was being rude, although trump was rude to him too.

    I thought the way it works is the person giving the press conference picks people and when you’ve asked your question or two that’s it you’re done and it moves on to someone else. If I was giving the press conference and people refused to follow the rules I’d have their press passes revoked.

    Edit: I guess Trump didn't really answer his questions, but does he really think heckling is going to help? Everyone knows that the caravan is a total red herring but Trump isn't going to say that so why ask it?


    Did you actually watch the clip?


  • #8253
    Fann Linn
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,412 ✭✭✭Fann Linn


    Water John wrote: »
    Trump hadn't the guts to call Sessions himself,


    Happens in a lot of industries and careers.


  • #8254
    Itssoeasy
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 41,783 ✭✭✭✭Itssoeasy


    So trump got John Kelly to fire sessions. So he's incompetent as president and is clearly a coward.

    Matt Whittaker has apparently said previously that he feels the mueller probe has gone too far. I don't know but would that not be a conflict of interest given he's stated an opinion of something he's now in charge of ?

    The guests on CNN who are republican/ trump ally are clearly annoyed that the president can't even give them one day to get the message of the holding of senate by the GOP.


  • #8255
    Gbear
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,775 ✭✭✭✭Gbear


    prawnsambo wrote: »
    Yeah. But the day the result is out? That smacks of panic. Literally the minute that he can do this without affecting the election result.

    If Don Jr is about to be indicted they might not have a lot of time to get their **** together.

    Once he's indicted, would defunding the investigation matter at that point or would the prosecution be handed over elsewhere?

    Do all federal prosecutions go through the AG's office?

    Can the AG's office credibly refuse to bring a prosecution being brought off the back of an FBI investigation without pretty much declaring to the whole world that they're dispensing with due process and are openly corrupt, or is there even a veneer of credibility they could apply to it?


  • #8256
    Chips Lovell
    Moderators, Politics Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 24,279 Mod ✭✭✭✭Chips Lovell


    postername1 wrote: »
    why don't liberals enjoy the victory, you won fair and square,
    enjoy it because maga energy is going to go hyper

    Read the charter. Serious posts only please. No more messing.


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  • #8257
    aloyisious
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,802 ✭✭✭✭aloyisious


    CNN is reporting that the SDNY DA has been fired by Don as well.


  • #8258
    Pelvis
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,744 ✭✭✭Pelvis


    aloyisious wrote: »
    CNN is reporting that the SDNY DA has been fired by Don as well.

    Don't think the president can fire a state DA.


  • #8259
    prawnsambo
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,407 ✭✭✭✭prawnsambo


    Gbear wrote: »
    If Don Jr is about to be indicted they might not have a lot of time to get their **** together.

    Once he's indicted, would defunding the investigation matter at that point or would the prosecution be handed over elsewhere?

    Do all federal prosecutions go through the AG's office?

    Can the AG's office credibly refuse to bring a prosecution being brought off the back of an FBI investigation without pretty much declaring to the whole world that they're dispensing with due process and are openly corrupt, or is there even a veneer of credibility they could apply to it?
    There's talk of sealed indictments. So nothing an AG can do about that anyway. Already signed, already in the works. Desparation.



    Somebody tweeted a list of sealed indictment numbers that went through the DC courts this week. Obviously they mightn't relate at all. But there were six iirc.


  • #8260
    Itssoeasy
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 41,783 ✭✭✭✭Itssoeasy


    Pelvis wrote: »
    Don't think the president can fire a state DA.
    Yeah wasn't there something where judges in NY got to appoint the DA for that area ?


  • #8261
    2 Scoops
    Closed Accounts Posts: 915 ✭✭✭2 Scoops


    Captain Obvious wrote: »
    Did you actually watch the clip?

    Did you? Take off the partisan glasses. Expecting a bit of decency and manners in the presidential press pool is not controlling the press. Behaving the opposite results in a shouting match and puts the focus directly on him without achieving anything productive, the attention is obviously something he craves. Acosta tried to start a debate after his questions were answered and acted like a petulant child, not for the first time. He should apologize to that female staffer.

    https://twitter.com/realDailyWire/status/1060227002832056320


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  • #8262
    pixelburp
    Moderators, Category Moderators, Entertainment Moderators Posts: 36,711 CMod ✭✭✭✭pixelburp


    2 Scoops wrote: »
    Did you? Take off the partisan glasses. Expecting a bit of decency and manners in the presidential press pool is not controlling the press. Behaving the opposite results in a shouting match and puts the focus directly on him without achieving anything productive, the attention is obviously something he craves. Acosta tried to start a debate after his questions were answered and acted like a petulant child, not for the first time. He should apologize to that female staffer.

    I think the most charitable thing you could say was that the exchange was between two petulant adults, because TRumps behaviour with the rest of the press conference wasn't any better - witness his reaction to the question over his 'nationalist' comments. There's being combatitive, but this is the highest political office in the country -if not the world - and he defaults to defensive anger. Not to mention the continuation of the dangerous "enemy of the people" remarks made to a network that received pipe bombs in the mail.


  • #8263
    aloyisious
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,802 ✭✭✭✭aloyisious


    Lindsey Graham glad to see a new chapter in DOJ after AG Sessions is fired. A change from when he said there'd be hell to pay if Don Trump fired Sessions as AG.


  • #8264
    Itssoeasy
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 41,783 ✭✭✭✭Itssoeasy


    2 Scoops wrote: »
    Did you? Take off the partisan glasses. Expecting a bit of decency and manners in the presidential press pool is not controlling the press. Behaving the opposite results in a shouting match and puts the focus directly on him without achieving anything productive, the attention is obviously something he craves. Acosta tried to start a debate after his questions were answered and acted like a petulant child trying to start a debate, and not for the first time.

    https://twitter.com/realDailyWire/status/1060227002832056320
    I'd take your own advice scoops. I think Jim Acosta lost his cool a bit but honestly when you have been the target at CNN since trump took office I'm surprised he hadn't done it sooner even a bit. I'm sure he's not feeling great after today.


  • #8265
    batgoat
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,423 ✭✭✭batgoat


    Itssoeasy wrote: »
    I'd take your own advice scoops. I think Jim Acosta lost his cool a bit but honestly when you have been the target at CNN since trump took office I'm surprised he hadn't done it sooner even a bit. I'm sure he's not feeling great after today.

    And calling CNN the enemy of the people again after the attempted terror attack he motivated only weeks ago...


  • #8266
    Itssoeasy
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 41,783 ✭✭✭✭Itssoeasy


    aloyisious wrote: »
    Lindsey Graham glad to see a new chapter in DOJ after AG Sessions is fired. A change from when he said there'd be hell to pay if Don Trump fired Sessions as AG.

    Is Lindsey graham okay ? He seems overly calm and happy since his blow up during the Kavanagh hearings.


  • #8267
    Eric Cartman
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 26,242 ✭✭✭✭Eric Cartman


    batgoat wrote: »
    And calling CNN the enemy of the people again after the attempted terror attack he motivated only weeks ago...

    how is an autistic basement dwellers failed attack the fault of Donald Trump ? if he was telling people to bomb those people I'd agree but he didn't


  • #8268
    aloyisious
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,802 ✭✭✭✭aloyisious


    Pelvis wrote: »
    Don't think the president can fire a state DA.

    It's the US SDNY DA [Daniels] apparently.


  • #8269
    2 Scoops
    Closed Accounts Posts: 915 ✭✭✭2 Scoops


    pixelburp wrote: »
    I think the most charitable thing you could say was that the exchange was between two petulant adults

    Fine, as long as people realize these stunts Acosta pulls are for the attention and not some amazing acts of good will or bravery that some people will try and have you believe. Only person I felt sorry for was that mic Woman, she didn't know what do and was obviously embarrassed.


  • #8270
    prawnsambo
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,407 ✭✭✭✭prawnsambo


    Itssoeasy wrote: »
    Is Lindsey graham okay ? He seems overly calm and happy since his blow up during the Kavanagh hearings.
    Ah, the blow up at the hearings was oscar worthy.


  • #8271
    relax carry on
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,169 ✭✭✭relax carry on


    2 Scoops wrote: »
    Did you? Take off the partisan glasses. Expecting a bit of decency and manners in the presidential press pool is not controlling the press. Behaving the opposite results in a shouting match and puts the focus directly on him without achieving anything productive, the attention is obviously something he craves. Acosta tried to start a debate after his questions were answered and acted like a petulant child, not for the first time. He should apologize to that female staffer.

    https://twitter.com/realDailyWire/status/1060227002832056320

    Remind me which one is supposed to be the President of United States of America? You know the one who is supposed to be in charge of one of the most powerful countries in the world? He doesn't appear to be able to control himself. One Trumps attributes is he is a bully and can't stop being a bully, he can't help himself. He disrespects the office and I'm genuinely amazed that anyone can still defend him. The press should continue to press him at every opportunity to explain his actions.


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  • #8272
    pixelburp
    Moderators, Category Moderators, Entertainment Moderators Posts: 36,711 CMod ✭✭✭✭pixelburp


    Eric Cartman wrote: »
    how is an autistic basement dwellers failed attack the fault of Donald Trump ? if he was telling people to bomb those people I'd agree but he didn't

    Come on. Don't be naive, words have power and influence, and Trump from the get go has made sure to label the press as "the enemy", in a political climate that already champions the cult like power of partisanship. And a social climate that already has a problem with its citizens solving problems with mass shootings. It's not a stretch to accuse Trump of inflaming passions against the 4th estate already held in suspicious regard by many.


  • #8273
    batgoat
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,423 ✭✭✭batgoat


    Eric Cartman wrote: »
    how is an autistic basement dwellers failed attack the fault of Donald Trump ? if he was telling people to bomb those people I'd agree but he didn't

    The president labeling news organizations as 'enemies of the people' is just that extra bit of extra motivation for violent psychopaths. You really should look back on the history of the sorts of leaders that engage in attacks on the press...


  • #8274
    Christy42
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,111 ✭✭✭Christy42


    More firings from the man who was meant to hire only the best people. It is safe to say his hiring strategy has been a complete and utter failure.

    I have no issue with Sessions being fired. The man was too racist for Arizona ffs. I worry that his successor will not leave the Muller investigation alone. Indeed the man is now well aware that his job depends on interfering in the investigation. Recusing himself is what brought Trump's ire down on Sessions. Especially as Trump's team started to get picked off bit by bit.


  • #8275
    aloyisious
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,802 ✭✭✭✭aloyisious


    Eric Cartman wrote: »
    how is an autistic basement dwellers failed attack the fault of Donald Trump ? if he was telling people to bomb those people I'd agree but he didn't

    Aside from Don telling his supporters from a rally stage that he'd like to punch those who oppose him giving the base that he approves of physically attacking the opposition. Not hard to understand that message from your favourite president.


  • #8276
    pixelburp
    Moderators, Category Moderators, Entertainment Moderators Posts: 36,711 CMod ✭✭✭✭pixelburp


    2 Scoops wrote: »
    Fine, as long as people realize these stunts Acosta pulls are for the attention and not some amazing acts of good will or bravery that some people will try and have you believe. Only person I felt sorry for was that mic Woman, she didn't know what do and was obviously embarrassed.

    I felt sorry for the black journalist who tried to ask an important question about stoking white nationalism and got branded a racist. It's easy to lambast Acosta but Trumps reaction was not isolated and merely a highlight among a series of immature outbursts. And as mentioned, calling the victim of a pipe bomb attack the "enemy of the people" is a huge red flag, no matter who asked the question from CNN.


  • #8277
    Tell me how
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 23,525 ✭✭✭✭Tell me how


    pixelburp wrote: »
    Come on. Don't be naive, words have power and influence, and Trump from the get go has made sure to label the press as "the enemy", in a political climate that already champions the cult like power of partisanship. And a social climate that already has a problem with its citizens solving problems with mass shootings. It's not a stretch to accuse Trump of inflaming passions against the 4th estate already held in suspicious regard by many.

    Particulalrly when one MAGA supporter actually sexually assaulted a woman and his defence was "The president said that it's ok".

    People can interpret Trumps words any way they want but when he said things like he'd love if someone gave a protester a smack at one of his rallies and that he would pay the legal fees for anyone charged with having done so then it is hard to absolve him from blame in the actions of others.


  • #8278
    rossie1977
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,513 ✭✭✭✭rossie1977


    Eric Cartman wrote: »
    postername1 wrote: »
    i would say the opposite, look how crushed trump supporters are about losing the house

    definitely a more calm and measured response than Hillary supporters anyway.
    Its the House, it's mean little in overall scheme of things.

    Let's see what happens if an actual left leaning person gets elected president. Republicans lost their minds when Obama got in and Hillary was running and both are right leaning corporatists.

    Remember over 70% of terrorist acts on US soil over the past decade have been by far right groups. I would expect that to ramp up significantly if someone like Bernie or O'Rourke became President.


  • #8279
    Hurrache
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,449 ✭✭✭✭Hurrache


    rossie1977 wrote: »
    Its the House, it's mean little in overall scheme of things.

    Far from it.


  • #8280
    Eric Cartman
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 26,242 ✭✭✭✭Eric Cartman


    pixelburp wrote: »
    Come on. Don't be naive, words have power and influence, and Trump from the get go has made sure to label the press as "the enemy", in a political climate that already champions the cult like power of partisanship. And a social climate that already has a problem with its citizens solving problems with mass shootings. It's not a stretch to accuse Trump of inflaming passions against the 4th estate already held in suspicious regard by many.
    batgoat wrote: »
    The president labeling news organizations as 'enemies of the people' is just that extra bit of extra motivation for violent psychopaths. You really should look back on the history of the sorts of leaders that engage in attacks on the press...

    So was bernie sanders guilty of incitement for his comments about the rich ?


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  • #8281
    rossie1977
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,513 ✭✭✭✭rossie1977


    Hurrache wrote: »
    rossie1977 wrote: »
    Its the House, it's mean little in overall scheme of things.

    Far from it.
    One that people care deeply enough to protest about...no

    In 2010 when Dems were slaughtered in the House there was no mass protests by Democratic supporters.


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