Peter Casey's beliefs of Travellers' ethnicity Part II

Plumbthedepths · 07-11-2018 3:00pm

Roger Hassenforder wrote:

Is the money in the Councils accounts ready to be spent, or waiting to be drawn down. I wonder is it easy to draw down....

Five people during the election campaign clearly stated they would have no issue with a halting site beside their respective homes. So that's another five locations sorted.

ELM327 · 07-11-2018 3:05pm

Plumbthedepths wrote: »

Five people during the election campaign clearly stated they would have no issue with a halting site beside their respective homes. So that's another five locations sorted.

I think the respective councils should act immediately to locate those halting sites asap

Edgware · 07-11-2018 3:11pm

Edward M wrote: »

Yes SF did target travellers, in the opposite way to Casey, they brought a motion proposing SEMS didn't they?

If Sinn Fein run a campaign in any of the Dublin constituencies advocating increase housing in those areas for travellers they will drop vote percentage very quickly

xi5yvm0owc1s2b · 07-11-2018 3:27pm

givyjoe wrote: »

A youtube video of Casey calling out Mickey D would have actually been hilarious.

Don't underestimate Michael D! I hear he's been steeping his hands in jet fuel.

BattleCorp · 07-11-2018 3:29pm

Hattie Puny Litterbug wrote: »

Don't underestimate Michael D! I hear he's been steeping his hands in jet fuel.

Petttterdil I believe is the exact product. But shhhhhhh, that's his secret.

Roger Hassenforder · 07-11-2018 3:29pm

Hattie Puny Litterbug wrote: »

Don't underestimate Michael D! I hear he's been steeping his hands in jet fuel.

Chuck Norris sleeps in Michael D PJs

blanch152 · 07-11-2018 3:51pm

KrustyUCC wrote: »

The roads are in bad enough condition as it is

Good luck to any politician who calls to the door after cutting budgets which will affect everybody just because enough money wasn't spent on travellers

I'm sure there will be plenty of votes in it for Sinn Fein

"Sinn Féin TD Eoin Ó Broin said the consultative process for delivering Traveller accommodation had “clearly failed” in many councils.
“Should we be thinking about sanctions for local authorities in other areas of their expenditure if they fail to spend Traveller accommodation budgets and meet statutory requirements? I think if a local authority knew, for example, that its roads budget would be withheld if it didn’t spend its Traveller budget that might focus the minds of elected representatives to do what they are legally required to do.”

Go for it, Eoin. There are loads of votes in telling people that they are going to have potholes in their roads for years because they wouldn't agree to have a halting site beside them. Actually, Eoin, make it Number 1 pledge of Sinn Fein in the next election.

Deebles McBeebles · 07-11-2018 3:55pm

Hattie Puny Litterbug wrote: »

Don't underestimate Michael D! I hear he's been steeping his hands in jet fuel.

I think we're reached the real issue now. Who would win in a fight between the presidential candidates?

I reckon Joan still has a row or 2 left in her. Bit of a dark horse.

1800_Ladladlad · 07-11-2018 4:28pm

So, as another poster provided an email to register a complaint and what they were in violation of, I thought Id send a short email. This was the near automatic response I got.

Thank you for your email regarding The Late Late Show of 2nd November 2018 which has been passed on to me for reply.

You write about the interview with Mr. Peter Casey, the former Presidential candidate who was a guest on that date following his achievement of receiving over 340,000 votes in the Presidential election the week before.

For context it should be remembered that Mr. Casey’s comments regarding the Travelling community on October 17 lead to condemnation, not only by the Travelling community but also by the other candidates in the Presidential race and by a number of politicians of various hues, including An Taoiseach, Leo Varadkar.

Therefore, I believe that it was entirely correct that such comments should be examined and challenged by those directly affected and as such we conducted the interview with Mr. Casey on that basis.

To be clear, Mr. Casey was not “ambushed” by The Late Late Show. RTÉ refers to the Broadcasting Authority of Ireland (BAI) in its Code of Fairness, Objectivity and Impartiality in News and Current Affairs, Rule 4 which states:
“In the normal course of events, interviewees for news and current affairs content shall generally be made aware of the subject matter and the nature and format of their contribution, so that their agreement to participate constitutes informed consent.”

In this instance, Mr. Casey and his team were fully aware that his comments regarding Travellers would be a substantial part of the interview. He was fully informed in advance of the show not just that representatives would be in the audience but he was also given the names of the representatives of the Travelling community who would ask him questions.

Mr Casey agreed to proceed with the interview on that basis. His participation was fully compliant with the requirement for “informed consent.”

The interview itself was over 26 minutes long which is far longer than most segments on the Late Late Show, specifically to address the other issues Mr. Casey wanted to talk about, including his own background, his views on the Irish welfare state, his political ambition and his views on Fianna Fáil.

The interview was conducted in a robust manner with both Mr. Casey and Mr. Tubridy at times interrupting each other. This is sometimes the nature of live discussion and television debate.

Given the discussions with Mr. Casey and his team outlining the proposed interview and the amount of time given to him to address both the issues he wished to discuss and the more controversial comments which had caused controversy in the week leading up to the Presidential election, I am fully confident that the interview was entirely properly conducted.

RTÉ also draws attention to Rule 22 of the BAI Code of Fairness, Objectivity and Impartiality in News and Current Affairs:

“It is an important part of the role of a presenter of a current affairs programme to ensure the audience has access to a wide variety of views on the subject of the programme or item; to facilitate the expression of contributors’ opinions – sometimes by forceful questioning; and to reflect the views of those who cannot, or choose not to, participate in content.”

The interview was entirely compliant with these principles with the presenter correctly playing the role of ‘devil’s advocate’ in order to elucidate Mr Casey’s views on several issues.

While The Late Late Show is primarily an entertainment show it has a long history of covering topical news and current affairs issues that are of national importance.

The interview with Mr Casey was one such item and RTÉ is fully satisfied that it complied fully with all the relevant legislative and regulatory Codes.

Thank you for watching and for taking the time to write to us with your views. They are appreciated and valued.

If any member of the public is of the opinion that a programme or segment of a programme broadcast on RTÉ has breached a provision of Section 39(1)(a), (b), (d) or (e) of the Broadcasting Act 2009 or failed to comply with a provision of the Broadcasting Authority of Ireland Codes and is not satisfied with RTɒs response they are entitled to make a complaint to the BAI. Information on codes and on the complaints procedure can be found on the BAI website at http://www.bai.ie/en/viewers-listeners/complaints/.

Yours Sincerely,

John McMahon
Executive Producer
Late Late Show

.........after each little bit I laughed

KrustyUCC · 07-11-2018 4:32pm

Deebles McBeebles · 07-11-2018 4:36pm

Sounds like the interview was interesting. Wanted to watch it myself but as usual RTE Player wouldn't work.

tretorn · 07-11-2018 4:38pm

I would love to see a halting site going in on RTEs site in Donnybrook.

Imagine the dent this would put in the sale price for the land, I presume this windfall is to go into a pot to pay Tubridys and the rest of the motor mouths pensions.

If there was any justice in the world a halting site or group housing for travellers would be built but it wont happen because lots of wealty people own and rent apartments in Donnybrook and no way are travellers going to be put beside rugby peoples hangouts.

tayto lover · 07-11-2018 4:39pm

FrancieBrady wrote: »

Don't you find it suspicious that on the key points he raised that he seems unable to expand on them or defend them even.
His SEMS statement for instance, he stood blubbering 'benefits' when he was challenged on it on the TV debates. It was almost comedic. And he completly shut up after that.
On his Phoenix Park comments - apparently a troll, until the Late Late when he actually tried to defend the idea. Bizzare and I would be suspicious (convinced actually) that he is being fed bullet points to throw into the debate.

The faux weekend break that wasn't a weekend break to bolster those who thought he was being shut up. All classic stuff in the manipulation of a narrative really.

I wouldn't judge Casey on the one-sided LLS.
I couldn't make out what was being said with the babble from the travellers and the machine gun that was Tubridy spitting out rapid fire questions before he had answered the previous one. I watched it in the pub and people kept asking that they be allowed listen to the answers and for Tubridy to shut up for awhile.

However Casey certainly isn't the brightest I'll grant you that and I have said that before but he has certainly highlighted the issues that are pertinent to many people and he reaped the rewards.

Will the issues be dealt with though is another matter. It could all die down unless Casey or someone else seizes it and runs with it in the next General Election. There are a lot of votes there if you highlight entitlement, rural crime, judges and housing and are not afraid to speak out.

tretorn · 07-11-2018 4:47pm

Casey opened up the debate and Fianna Fail have reacted already.

Fianna Fail are not going to ignore 347,000 voters and they know full well multitudes of other people resent the traveller lifestyle but didnt bother going to the trouble of voting in a presidential election.

Someone who goes forward on a law and order mandate in a General Election will poll very highly, in fact you could put a candidate up in all the areas where the vote for Casey was high and its quite possible two or three independents could be elected with a mandate to force the Government to take action on traveller criminality, traveller unemployment, and low attendance at school.

Something has to be done and done fast.

07-11-2018 5:13pm

tretorn wrote: »

Casey opened up the debate and Fianna Fail have reacted already.

Fianna Fail are not going to ignore 347,000 voters and they know full well multitudes of other people resent the traveller lifestyle but didnt bother going to the trouble of voting in a presidential election.

Someone who goes forward on a law and order mandate in a General Election will poll very highly, in fact you could put a candidate up in all the areas where the vote for Casey was high and its quite possible two or three independents could be elected with a mandate to force the Government to take action on traveller criminality, traveller unemployment, and low attendance at school.

Something has to be done and done fast.

To be honest I would like something done immediately. Take the issue of education - the law is already there but government are not ensuring that it’s upheld. Come general election time they’ll all call to the door promising the sun, moon and stars but it’s just words. Just do your bloody jobs today, TDs!

I’d also like someone in the Dáil to raise the question of legal aid. I get that it is required but surely there should be a limit to how many times one person can avail of it? Is there a TD out there right now brave enough to take on the judges and solicitors and this cushy setup? If they want me to consider voting for them, now is the time to get to work for my vote.

Don’t get me started on the travesty of a budget and I’m a benefactor of the €5 increase. But I would rather have that fiver in my pocket when I eventually get back to work.

tayto lover · 07-11-2018 5:50pm

tretorn wrote: »

Casey opened up the debate and Fianna Fail have reacted already.

Fianna Fail are not going to ignore 347,000 voters and they know full well multitudes of other people resent the traveller lifestyle but didnt bother going to the trouble of voting in a presidential election.

Someone who goes forward on a law and order mandate in a General Election will poll very highly, in fact you could put a candidate up in all the areas where the vote for Casey was high and its quite possible two or three independents could be elected with a mandate to force the Government to take action on traveller criminality, traveller unemployment, and low attendance at school.

Something has to be done and done fast.

I really would not like to see that shower in FF benefitting from Casey's election campaign but I wouldn't put it past them to try and dupe the voters.

I just don't trust them to deal with the issues if they got back into power.
FF and FG are the back and front of the pantomime horse.

KrustyUCC · 07-11-2018 6:49pm

Peter Casey hits out at 'unprofessional, patronising and insulting' Ryan Tubridy

https://www.irishexaminer.com/breakingnews/ireland/peter-casey-hits-out-at-unprofessional-patronising-and-insulting-ryan-tubridy-883317.html

Nice contrast to the spin from RTE to a poster earlier

Silentcorner · 07-11-2018 7:24pm

Jennifer Zamparelli is back on twitter (well, one tweet anyway)...she got ate alive!!! It's absolutely hilarious....

https://twitter.com/JenniferMaguire/status/1059736036258054144

Whats that saying they have if you are a tv presenter...never become the news!! The two half wits (Tubridy and Zamparelli) have managed to make complete idiots out of themselves over one guest...this is comedy gold!!!

I listened to a bit Niall Boylan the other day, he spent an hour on about it....he kept pleading with the listeners to contact the show if they supported Tubridy....because all the phone calls/texts/whatsapp messages were all highly critical of him....I can imagine the gnashing of teeth in Montrose listening to that!!!

Anyone read anything about the amount of complaints Friday nights show has received??? In a drawer with all the polls from the last week of the campaign I'd imagine never to see the light of day!

Plumbthedepths · 07-11-2018 7:26pm

Silentcorner wrote:

Anyone read anything about the amount of complaints Friday nights show has received??? In a drawer with all the polls from the last week of the campaign I'd imagine never to see the light of day!

RTE can ignore your compliant. The BAI usually behaves differently.

James Brown · 07-11-2018 7:28pm

tretorn wrote: »

Casey opened up the debate and Fianna Fail have reacted already.

Fianna Fail are not going to ignore 347,000 voters and they know full well multitudes of other people resent the traveller lifestyle but didnt bother going to the trouble of voting in a presidential election.

Someone who goes forward on a law and order mandate in a General Election will poll very highly, in fact you could put a candidate up in all the areas where the vote for Casey was high and its quite possible two or three independents could be elected with a mandate to force the Government to take action on traveller criminality, traveller unemployment, and low attendance at school.

Something has to be done and done fast.

Who do people think makes policy? It's Fine Gael and Fianna Fail ffs.
Casey couldn't give 2 f***s about Travelers. A handy political football. The man is based in the states.

maxwell smart · 07-11-2018 7:33pm

Silentcorner wrote: »

Jennifer Zamparelli is back on twitter (well, one tweet anyway)...she got ate alive!!! It's absolutely hilarious....

https://twitter.com/JenniferMaguire/status/1059736036258054144

Whats that saying they have if you are a tv presenter...never become the news!! The two half wits (Tubridy and Zamparelli) have managed to make complete idiots out of themselves over one guest...this is comedy gold!!!

I listened to a bit Niall Boylan the other day, he spent an hour on about it....he kept pleading with the listeners to contact the show if they supported Tubridy....because all the phone calls/texts/whatsapp messages were all highly critical of him....I can imagine the gnashing of teeth in Montrose listening to that!!!

Anyone read anything about the amount of complaints Friday nights show has received??? In a drawer with all the polls from the last week of the campaign I'd imagine never to see the light of day!

I'm reading her Twitter feed, absolutely hilarious. Nobody is letting her away with her BS. The tweet is probably a timed tweet around a campaign she looks like she is doing for Aer Lingus. I wonder what they think about using a spoofer to promote their brand?
Maybe I should ask

Plumbthedepths · 07-11-2018 7:37pm

maxwell smart wrote:

Maybe I should ask

You should, I think I will ask aswell.

tretorn · 07-11-2018 8:14pm

Matt Barrett wrote: »

Who do people think makes policy? It's Fine Gael and Fianna Fail ffs.
Casey couldn't give 2 f***s about Travelers. A handy political football. The man is based in the states.

It doesnt matter what Casey thinks about travellers, how can anyone get through to you.

What matters is the amount of people who came out in their droves to vote for Casey because he was the only public official to speak for them If nothing is done in spite of this huge vote then people will just write off the Gardai completely and take the law into their own hands, its surprising this hasnt happened yet in view of the provocation rural people are living with( as evidenced by numbers voting for Peter Casey).

FrancieBrady · 07-11-2018 8:34pm

tayto lover wrote: »

I wouldn't judge Casey on the one-sided LLS.
I couldn't make out what was being said with the babble from the travellers and the machine gun that was Tubridy spitting out rapid fire questions before he had answered the previous one. I watched it in the pub and people kept asking that they be allowed listen to the answers and for Tubridy to shut up for awhile.

However Casey certainly isn't the brightest I'll grant you that and I have said that before but he has certainly highlighted the issues that are pertinent to many people and he reaped the rewards.

Will the issues be dealt with though is another matter. It could all die down unless Casey or someone else seizes it and runs with it in the next General Election. There are a lot of votes there if you highlight entitlement, rural crime, judges and housing and are not afraid to speak out.

Remember, Casey is mad keen to join FF.

The travellers might have died out as an ethnicity before that crowd are reformed enough.

Seriously though, it shows you what his leaning is and that many might be disappointed that his 'outspokenness' was a stunt and probably prompted by someone else. A PR guru.
Fits the FF profile anyways - get elected at all costs.

FrancieBrady · 07-11-2018 8:37pm

1800_Ladladlad wrote: »

So, as another poster provided an email to register a complaint and what they were in violation of, I thought Id send a short email. This was the near automatic response I got.

If Casey was informed of the format and the guests, there isnt much of a complaint, maybe he will get Tubs a rap over the knuckles for being rude.

KildareP · 07-11-2018 9:03pm

1800_Ladladlad wrote: »

So, as another poster provided an email to register a complaint and what they were in violation of, I thought Id send a short email. This was the near automatic response I got.

.........after each little bit I laughed

Have you gone back to them as a matter of interest?

If they want to start selectively quoting from the BAI Code of Fairness, Objectivity and Impartiality in News and Current Affairs and hiding behind these then there's quite a few other rules contained within that same code they most definitely fall foul of

postername1 · 07-11-2018 9:07pm

is there any merit to peter's original idea about the diaspora,
i had the misfortune to live abroad myself for 10 years, before cheap flights internet and smart phones, when you were gone you were gone

for example president higgins spends 10k for dog grooming,
casey could have brought a few families from the diaspora abroad home for a week for that kind of money

freshpopcorn · 07-11-2018 10:05pm

They are showing the interview on Gogglebox tonight and in the intro they just showed Casey stuttering.

postername1 · 07-11-2018 10:08pm

freshpopcorn wrote: »

They are showing the interview on Gogglebox tonight and in the intro they just showed Casey stuttering.

omg how will that right wing family react

freshpopcorn · 07-11-2018 10:09pm

postername1 wrote: »

omg how will that right wing family react

Which one is that?

Peter Casey's beliefs of Travellers' ethnicity Part II

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