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    beef price tracker

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    • #7172
      Bass Reeves
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      CloughCasey1 wrote: »
      https://www.google.ie/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=https://m.youtube.com/watch%3Fv%3DPOb9tVvVRas&ved=2ahUKEwi97r6JmqveAhVMI8AKHVYmBIsQwqsBMAN6BAgJEAU&usg=AOvVaw0IZBwVhQMNHfK8SoJQ2H5a&cshid=1540801890101

      Good example of cattle grading.

      Not so sure IMO the first black bullock would only grade R in the present system, The last black Friesian was not carrying any flesh and would get caught on fat score. The first Friesian would grade only P+/O-. The video was made in 2015 so maybe grading has changed since then

      Slava Ukrainii



    • #7173
      Cavanjack
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      Bass Reeves wrote: »
      Not so sure IMO the first black bullock would only grade R in the present system, The last black Friesian was not carrying any flesh and would get caught on fat score. The first Friesian would grade only P+/O-. The video was made in 2015 so maybe grading has changed since then

      I'd agree with you there. The first lad would only make an r. He is grading him a u+.
      We Killed a few blue bulls last spring that would make a show of that lad and they were only a u+. To get a bullock to grade into a u grade now is a tough job.


    • #7174
      charolais0153
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      Cavanjack wrote: »
      I'd agree with you there. The first lad would only make an r. He is grading him a u+.
      We Killed a few blue bulls last spring that would make a show of that lad and they were only a u+. To get a bullock to grade into a u grade now is a tough job.

      I had the first lad as a u- in my own head.
      Chx as r=
      White fr as o= and
      Black fr as p=


    • #7175
      riemann
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      Prices holding, no sign of any lift above maybe 10c or so this side of Christmas.

      Supplies of store cattle very high.


    • #7176
      Cavanjack
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      riemann wrote: »
      Prices holding, no sign of any lift above maybe 10c or so this side of Christmas.

      Supplies of store cattle very high.

      Steers 3.80 and u grade bulls 3.90. They are getting all the cattle they want at the minute. No rise for another month I'd say.


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    • #7177
      Willfarman
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      The only positive is that there’s a lot of beef moving. Even the chill rooms that were filled a few weeks back are heading for empty again.


    • #7178
      kk.man
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      Kill my last 11 bullocks for 2018 yesterday and couldn't get more than 3.75. I see cows are under pressure now....Not good news when cows are under pressure.


    • #7179
      Bass Reeves
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      kk.man wrote: »
      Kill my last 11 bullocks for 2018 yesterday and couldn't get more than 3.75. I see cows are under pressure now....Not good news when cows are under pressure.

      I expect that a lot pof lads are trying to kill off grass this year. Good autumn along with shortage/tightness of silage as well as ration prices will discouage winter finishing. I moved cattle about 3 weks ago got a base of 3.8 I think. Autumn costs can be higher than you think cattle would need to be on 5+kgs of ration minimum as well as maybe access to hay or straw as feed vale has gone out of grass.

      While chills are not full neither are they empty and kill remains very strong. Not many have housed cattle yet and there was no burst of lads housing cattle for Christmass finish eith 3-6 weeks ago. Supplies could get tighter faster than you might think. Lads will kill off grass and then it may come to a full stop. Kill could collapse in December

      Slava Ukrainii



    • #7180
      kk.man
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      Bass Reeves wrote: »
      I expect that a lot pof lads are trying to kill off grass this year. Good autumn along with shortage/tightness of silage as well as ration prices will discouage winter finishing. I moved cattle about 3 weks ago got a base of 3.8 I think. Autumn costs can be higher than you think cattle would need to be on 5+kgs of ration minimum as well as maybe access to hay or straw as feed vale has gone out of grass.

      While chills are not full neither are they empty and kill remains very strong. Not many have housed cattle yet and there was no burst of lads housing cattle for Christmass finish eith 3-6 weeks ago. Supplies could get tighter faster than you might think. Lads will kill off grass and then it may come to a full stop. Kill could collapse in December

      I had mine on almost 7kg and grass ..just an ok response with the amount of meal given to them.


    • #7181
      Bass Reeves
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      kk.man wrote: »
      I had mine on almost 7kg and grass ..just an ok response with the amount of meal given to them.

      The last ones I killed were on 5kgs/day and were Friesians it was a matter of getting flesh cover on them and cashing them in. It was costing 1.3/day on ration response was fairly ok but I was conscience that younger stores make better use of grass and return on friesians is limited. I killed some in September as well and thrive was brilliant in the extra 5 weeks but all them cattle would have eaten a lot of grass. I will be housing again thsi weekend if I had older cattle kept I have everything housed now eating silage worth 30/bale

      Slava Ukrainii



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    • #7182
      kk.man
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      Bass Reeves wrote: »
      The last ones I killed were on 5kgs/day and were Friesians it was a matter of getting flesh cover on them and cashing them in. It was costing 1.3/day on ration response was fairly ok but I was conscience that younger stores make better use of grass and return on friesians is limited. I killed some in September as well and thrive was brilliant in the extra 5 weeks but all them cattle would have eaten a lot of grass. I will be housing again thsi weekend if I had older cattle kept I have everything housed now eating silage worth 30/bale

      My last ones were friesian too and my sole object was to reach fat score 3 which they did.


    • #7183
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      kk.man wrote: »
      Kill my last 11 bullocks for 2018 yesterday and couldn't get more than 3.75. I see cows are under pressure now....Not good news when cows are under pressure.
      Text sent out Friday to agents from one major factory..... Cows cut 20 cent


    • #7184
      Buford T. Justice XIX
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      Pidae.m wrote: »
      Text sent out Friday to agents from one major factory..... Cows cut 20 cent
      What are cows making now?


      Sent 2 cows 2 weeks ago with TB and they made 185c/kg.


    • #7185
      kk.man
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      Buford T. Justice V wrote: »
      What are cows making now?


      Sent 2 cows 2 weeks ago with TB and they made 185c/kg.

      Surely you mean 285c/kg ?


    • #7186
      Buford T. Justice XIX
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      kk.man wrote: »
      Surely you mean 285c/kg ?
      Nope, 185:mad:
      It's not like you're in a position to refuse to send them:(


    • #7187
      K9
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      Got €3.44 for heavy R grade cows killed 22nd Oct.


    • #7188
      Cavanjack
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      Buford T. Justice V wrote: »
      Nope, 185:mad:
      It's not like you're in a position to refuse to send them:(

      Were they valued live? The dept will make up the difference will they not?


    • #7189
      Buford T. Justice XIX
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      Cavanjack wrote: »
      Were they valued live? The dept will make up the difference will they not?
      Yeah, they will but I have one or two that I could move depending on the price.


    • #7190
      Good loser
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      kk.man wrote: »
      I had mine on almost 7kg and grass ..just an ok response with the amount of meal given to them.

      I'm the same.

      Sometimes they won't finish the nuts - today for instance.

      Have good, short grass for another week.


    • #7191
      Cavanjack
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      Good loser wrote: »
      I'm the same.

      Sometimes they won't finish the nuts - today for instance.

      Have good, short grass for another week.

      I think when it comes to early/mid October You are better off housing cattle for finishing and keeping grass for stores or Young stock. Finishing cattle are burning up too much energy staying warm and the power is gone out of the grass. They seem to lie out less and spend a lot of time traveling round fields/paddocks. Or that seems to be the case round here anyway.


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    • #7192
      whelan2
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      Sent a pb aa bull that twisted his spine to the factory. 23 months old. R3 366kg @3.60 =1318 euro. Was happy as he could just have easily gone in the knackery lorry


    • #7193
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      whelan2 wrote: »
      Sent a pb aa bull that twisted his spine to the factory. 23 months old. R3 366kg @3.60 =1318 euro. Was happy as he could just have easily gone in the knackery lorry

      Could he walk ok?


    • #7194
      whelan2
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      patsy_mccabe wrote: »
      Could he walk ok?

      Yes. Sideways. He injured himself a while ago and I fed him meal for a few months.


    • #7195
      Bass Reeves
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      whelan2 wrote: »
      Sent a pb aa bull that twisted his spine to the factory. 23 months old. R3 366kg @3.60 =1318 euro. Was happy as he could just have easily gone in the knackery lorry

      For an R3 bull u24 months they did you no favours on the price. However anything is better than the skip

      Slava Ukrainii



    • #7196
      wiggy123
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      not bad price, considering could loss him


    • #7197
      john mayo 10
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      Got €3.25 for r grade cows and €3.05 for our grade cows killed on Monday.


    • #7198
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      Posts that were an extension of this topic are now available for further comment and the repetition of points previously made many, many times in this new thread.

      :p

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    • #7199
      kk.man
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      See big pull on cow prices I underway now kill has hit 40k. Abp has backed up the UK kill for two weeks because they are sourcing plenty of cheap irish beef.
      They will be no price lift this year for the finisher it maybe next summer before we see prime beef hit 4e.


    • #7200
      Buford T. Justice XIX
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      kk.man wrote: »
      See big pull on cow prices I underway now kill has hit 40k. Abp has backed up the UK kill for two weeks because they are sourcing plenty of cheap irish beef.
      They will be no price lift this year for the finisher it maybe next summer before we see prime beef hit 4e.

      €80 a head drop in cow prices apparently.


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    • #7201
      Cavanjack
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      kk.man wrote: »
      See big pull on cow prices I underway now kill has hit 40k. Abp has backed up the UK kill for two weeks because they are sourcing plenty of cheap irish beef.
      They will be no price lift this year for the finisher it maybe next summer before we see prime beef hit 4e.

      Numbers will surely drop off soon. Factories are supposed to be concerned about supplies for the spring. If prices don't rise in the next couple of months they'd have nobody filling sheds next winter to feed.


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