Taken Down [RTE]

Redneck Culchie wrote: »

I hate how the Irish Left has started to just copy the American Left, despite the massive differences in culture, history, demographics etc basically everything. American social and liberal commentary has no relevance to this country.

Yet these dangerous idiots are already at it talking about privilege and people of colour, and laughable irrelevant ****e they see on CNN.

Completely agreed. America is a deeply divided country with social and racial problems going back generations... But those cannot just be copy/pasted onto other societies like ours.

The problem is that many Irish people need to be liked and approved of, and that is why these dangerous philosophies have gained such traction not just on Irish twitter accounts but formerly respected main stream media (who are now staffed by people more concerned with "trending" tweets and "likes" than reality), not to mention our social media obsessed current Taoiseach of course.

_Kaiser_ wrote: »

Completely agreed. America is a deeply divided country with social and racial problems going back generations... But those cannot just be copy/pasted onto other societies like ours.

The problem is that many Irish people need to be liked and approved of, and that is why these dangerous philosophies have gained such traction not just on Irish twitter accounts but formerly respected main stream media (who are now staffed by people more concerned with "trending" tweets and "likes" than reality), not to mention our social media obsessed current Taoiseach of course.

The only one seeing that is people like you.

You do realise that this majority of Irish people don't have access to CNN.

To pretend they do is just stupid

Most Irish people also don't give a flying.. what's going on in the States. Outside of forums like this is rarely a topic.


Also we've had direct provision for decades in this country . And it's always been topical. It has nothing to do with the USA no matter how much you would like it to be.


Anyway back to the program because you know this thread is to discuss TV.

The lead in it was very good. Hopefully it expands locations as it got claustraphobic

ectoraige wrote: »

I thought it was well written, good first episode. If they are looking for Flora, they should check the fridge.

Sure they ruined the mystery of Flora in the ads they've been showing for the last few weeks.

Did anyone else notice that in the canteen interviews Angry Garda was talking to the lesbian journalist from Fair City? I couldn't tell what accent she was using though.

[Deleted User] wrote: »

:eek:

Love/Hate was a solid drama but even that came nowhere near the Wire. Nothing will to be fair....not even Simons latest masterpiece The Deuce.

I think what he might have really meant though that the themes explored are similar to some of the themes explored in the Wire especially Season Two with the Ports.

I liked the first series of The Deuce but do you not think the second series is a #metoo orgy(pardon the pun)? Of all the enviroments to apply it to,if anything the contemporary porn industry has regressed for females in many respects. Makes it so much harder to believe that a feninist uprising existed back when series is set. Theories abound that Franco's recent sexual harrassement accusations led to a substantial shift in the balance of power dictating shows direction.

_Kaiser_ wrote: »

You're right... Its about a TV show and not a very good start at that.

But point of order.. CNN has been in news section of Sky's EPG for years, people very much do watch what happens in America (since Trump came to power even more so) and pretty much everyone has access to the Internet where much of these online "trends" are reposted as gospel right here on Irish news and social media sites.

I don't know a single person that turns on CNN regardless of it being in sky EPG.

If you were to answer truthfully neither do you.


You could argue that we know the subject matter because it is something that interests us but I would by no means argue that my friends or family even care about it.

I'm self aware of that.

To argue that TV programs are aping a leftist view coming from American CNN is bringing tears of laughter to my eyes.

Again we've had direct provision for years here it has absolutely zilch to do with the US CNN or any supposed leftist agenda


Be a bit real for once will yaz.

Redneck Culchie wrote: »

I would ignore that poster, it's unsurprising the biggest shinnerbots on boards arrived within seconds of SF being mentioned.

CNN is the only American news channel available here since Sky got rid of Fox. And Twitter is dominated by American liberal politics , it trends worldwide daily.

Jesus age Christ.


I'm not a shinnet bot .

And Jesus age Christ I've never read as many trigger words out of a single poster in my life. The only thing your missing is a maga hat and a UK bulldog on your chest.

Give over with the rethoric for one night will ya and discuss the program on its merit .

Acting and direction.

You are really tiring

CNN is also available on Freesat too.

Spon Farmer wrote: »

There isn't much discussion of the actual program going on.:rolleyes:

Anyway, it was a bit slow moving but a decent start. The Guard queueing up for lunch was funny.

Yeah I thought was gas because I can see it happening. Actually the leads sidekick detective is pretty solid performer.

rob316 wrote: »

And she was desperate in the young offenders

True

[Deleted User] wrote: »

No to be honest I couldn't envisage David Simon ever being one to bend the knee to anyone. I would say to a certain extent, the growth of the Porn industry provided women with a little more empowerment and essentially made the pimp
redundant. Since the beginning of the twentieth century, a feminist movement has existed in some shape or form. The latest iteration of it is just bát shít crazy lunatics who discredit some genuine causes in the past.

Yea i accept porn industry made pimps redundant if the woman had the 'talent' to make it in the porn industry but id imagine that was as common as a league of ireland making it in the prenier league. As far as the maggie gyleenhal calling the shots and holding her own against mafiosa types etc I just find it not credible then or pre-weinstein. Historical productions will always betray far more about when they are made than when they are set. Also watch the documentaries on Linda Lovelace to realise how women could be and were treated in the industry in the 70's. Even today porn has been reduced to gonzo hardcore arguably far more degrading than 70's/80/s fare.