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Handwriting decipher thread *must post link to full page*

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    #1742
    vektarman
    Registered Users Posts: 2,923 ✭✭✭vektarman


    I'm looking for some help in interpreting the name of this ship please. The background to the name is that I think it's the last Swedish ship that my Great Grandfather from Gothenburg sailed on before he stayed on as a sailor in Dublin.
    This is the crew list from what I think is his first Dublin ship the 'Coronella' in July 1878. Sailors had to name their previous ship in the crew list and it looks like 'Wuncanter' but it's open to suggestions, thanks.

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    #1743
    pinkypinky
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    If this page is online, can you put a link to it please? I can't zoom in on the full page.

    I don't think the final letter is an R - could be a D. The 4th letter could be an L too.

    Problem here is that we've got different handwriting on each line.

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    #1744
    vektarman
    Registered Users Posts: 2,923 ✭✭✭vektarman


    http://census.nationalarchives.ie/reels/cl/007604294_00712.pdf

    The link below is possibly my Greatgrandfather too, entry 31 on page 3.
    It's still difficult to figure out his birthplace and previous ship.
    http://census.nationalarchives.ie/search/cl/details.jsp?id=IRE/CREWLISTS/00017341


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    #1745
    montgo
    Registered Users Posts: 565 ✭✭✭montgo


    Hi,
    Looking for cause of death for Mary on Record # 366, "? of face, ??". Thanks.


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    #1746
    pedroeibar1
    Closed Accounts Posts: 5,108 ✭✭✭pedroeibar1


    vektarman wrote: »
    http://census.nationalarchives.ie/reels/cl/007604294_00712.pdf

    The link below is possibly my Greatgrandfather too, entry 31 on page 3.
    It's still difficult to figure out his birthplace and previous ship.
    http://census.nationalarchives.ie/search/cl/details.jsp?id=IRE/CREWLISTS/00017341


    It looks like Stavgan - possibly an Irish version of Stavanger?


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    #1747
    pedroeibar1
    Closed Accounts Posts: 5,108 ✭✭✭pedroeibar1


    montgo wrote: »
    Hi,
    Looking for cause of death for Mary on Record # 366, "? of face, ??". Thanks.


    First cause looks like ending in '.....oma' and the second is possibly 'cachexia' (a wasting disease often associated with cancer)
    .


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    #1748
    spurious
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    montgo wrote: »
    Hi,
    Looking for cause of death for Mary on Record # 366, "? of face, ??". Thanks.

    Epithelioma of face.
    No idea on the second bit, but it appears to be the same thing as written in the first entry on the page as well as the entry immediately above Mary's.


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    #1749
    New Home
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    Could it be an abbreviated "Certified"?


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    #1750
    Cyrus T Buford
    Registered Users Posts: 45 ✭Cyrus T Buford


    MARRIAGE NUMBER 142

    I can't make out the 2nd witness' first name (witness for the bride).
    It looks like Bily O'Driscoll, but would there not always be one male and one female witness (the witness for the bride being usually a woman?!)

    It seems to most definitely end in "ly" in my opinion!


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    #1751
    tabbey
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    Cyrus T Buford wrote: »
    MARRIAGE NUMBER 142

    I can't make out the 2nd witness' first name (witness for the bride).
    It looks like Bily O'Driscoll, but would there not always be one male and one female witness (the witness for the bride being usually a woman?!)

    It seems to most definitely end in "ly" in my opinion!

    Could be Elly or Eily, perhaps even Caty.

    Witnesses do not have to be one of each gender. In modern times that is the norm, but two hundred years ago in church records it was quite common to have two men, rarely two women. Sometimes there were two men and one woman, the latter would be the bridesmaid, while the two men were expected to give testimony should the marriage end up in the ecclesiastical courts. I have seen three men only on a few records, and once three women only.

    Nonetheless this is irrelevant to the civil registration of a marriage in 1924, my guess is that it is a woman, but the writing is not great.


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    #1752
    Cyrus T Buford
    Registered Users Posts: 45 ✭Cyrus T Buford


    Thanks for that info.
    Its very hard to make it out!

    I have considered Elly, but im just not seeing it!!!!! However, it could be Caty alright!


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    #1753
    Hermy
    Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 11,305 Mod ✭✭✭✭Hermy


    Betty O'Driscoll?

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    #1754
    montgo
    Registered Users Posts: 565 ✭✭✭montgo


    spurious wrote: »
    Epithelioma of face.
    No idea on the second bit, but it appears to be the same thing as written in the first entry on the page as well as the entry immediately above Mary's.

    Many thanks for that. Had to google it, looks nasty!


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    #1755
    spurious
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    Cyrus T Buford wrote: »
    Thanks for that info.
    Its very hard to make it out!

    I have considered Elly, but im just not seeing it!!!!! However, it could be Caty alright!

    Not definite, I know, but thinking laterally for a bit...
    Given that most witnesses in 1934 would have been alive in 1911, a little trawl through Dunmanway census records shows a couple of Lily O'Driscolls.
    They would have been in their 30s or 40s by 1934. Was Bridget an older bride?


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    #1756
    Cyrus T Buford
    Registered Users Posts: 45 ✭Cyrus T Buford


    spurious wrote: »
    Not definite, I know, but thinking laterally for a bit...
    Given that most witnesses in 1934 would have been alive in 1911, a little trawl through Dunmanway census records shows a couple of Lily O'Driscolls.
    They would have been in their 30s or 40s by 1934. Was Bridget an older bride?

    Good Idea ! I might have a look at the specific townland neighbours of the bride!
    She was actually quite a young bride. Married at 22.


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    #1757
    Tombom1
    Registered Users Posts: 50 ✭✭Tombom1


    Hello,
    Can anyone tell me what the abbreviation or title after Healy in this tithe applotment record it's also mentioned after mcloughlin aswell.
    Also the first name is missing but I'm pretty sure it's not "hlo".

    http ://titheapplotmentbooks.nationalarchives.
    ie/reels/tab//004625702/004625702_00122.pdf

    You need to remove the spaces in the link as it won't let me post it for some reason.


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    #1758
    New Home
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    Here's your link - you can't post them because you're a new user. :)

    http://titheapplotmentbooks.nationalarchives.ie/reels/tab//004625702/004625702_00122.pdf


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    #1759
    pinkypinky
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    I think it's " & Co"

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    #1760
    DamoRed
    Registered Users Posts: 394 ✭✭DamoRed


    This is a death cert I got today, so there's no other entries to aid identification.

    The cause of death is the first problem here. It appears to be 'Fence' 17 days certified. Informant is N Newsome, Chief Resident Officer ____ Workhouse

    I'm presuming rank or profession reads Labourer.

    All help appreciated


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    #1761
    pinkypinky
    Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 6,616 Mod ✭✭✭✭pinkypinky


    Celbridge is the workhouse. Definitely labourer.

    It does look like fence...but they do not generally cause death.

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    #1762
    Hermy
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    DamoRed wrote: »
    The cause of death is the first problem here. It appears to be 'Fence' 17 days certified.

    Would it be fever 17 days?

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    #1763
    DamoRed
    Registered Users Posts: 394 ✭✭DamoRed


    Fever, it is. Plain as day when pointed out. Thanks, Hermy and Pinky


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    #1764
    New Home
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    Celbridge Workhouse?

    I agree with labourer.

    EDIT: Didn't see there was a whole other page of posts, sorry.


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    #1765
    Vetch
    Closed Accounts Posts: 422 ✭✭Vetch


    vektarman wrote: »
    http://census.nationalarchives.ie/reels/cl/007604294_00712.pdf

    The link below is possibly my Greatgrandfather too, entry 31 on page 3.
    It's still difficult to figure out his birthplace and previous ship.
    http://census.nationalarchives.ie/search/cl/details.jsp?id=IRE/CREWLISTS/00017341

    I wonder if the name of the ship in the second link might be something like Raven Slm, with the latter being an abbreviation for Stockholm. If an Irish person filled it out, there may be a spelling discrepancy.


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    #1766
    jos28
    Registered Users Posts: 7,189 ✭✭✭jos28


    Looking for help deciphering my GG Grandfather's death cert. James Evans died 1882. I think the occupation says Hatter and his age was 45 but I can't figure out the rest. Any help would be much appreciated.


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    #1767
    spurious
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    jos28 wrote: »
    Looking for help deciphering my GG Grandfather's death cert. James Evans died 1882. I think the occupation says Hatter and his age was 45 but I can't figure out the rest. Any help would be much appreciated.
    23rd March 1882
    34 Lr Dominick (?) St.
    Cause of death was Consumption, 18 months certified.
    Informant Annie Groves, Present at Death, 70 Capel St.

    I would agree with 45 and Hatter.


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    #1768
    Caxton
    Registered Users Posts: 42 ✭Caxton


    Annie Grady present at death, 70 Capel St.


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    #1769
    jos28
    Registered Users Posts: 7,189 ✭✭✭jos28


    That was quick folks, I'm very impressed. Thanks a million. Must find out who this Annie Groves is :confused:


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    #1770
    Caxton
    Registered Users Posts: 42 ✭Caxton


    Yeah, Groves looks good


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    #1771
    spurious
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    jos28 wrote: »
    That was quick folks, I'm very impressed. Thanks a million. Must find out who this Annie Groves is :confused:

    Having a quick look at deaths of Anne Groves (and extrapolating whose widow she was) I think she was the wife of another hatter, James Henry Groves, who died in 1918.


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