England v S Africa 3rd Nov Match thread

Clegg · 03-11-2018 4:53pm

South Africa should be ahead by at least 10 points. England are dreadful.

vienne86 · 03-11-2018 4:54pm

Thinking of switching over to Treviso v Ulster.....might be better rugby....unless Rassie kicks ass at half time.

Buer · 03-11-2018 4:59pm

SA using some very familiar strike runner moves from the ruck. Anyone who has followed Schmidt for the last decade will have seen a few of those.

Buer · 03-11-2018 5:03pm

stephen_n wrote: »

Eddie Jones must be a very happy man to only be 2points down. SA are just so average.

I wouldn't agree. Incredibly physical at the clear out and in carrying. England getting blown away in contact and they're not weak in that area. They're just lacking composure in the last 5-10m. If Erasmus can develop some composure and experience when they have teams on the rack, they're going to be very hard to beat.

vienne86 · 03-11-2018 5:10pm

These overthrows by SA at the lineout are criminal.

Buer · 03-11-2018 5:11pm

Marx has to be hooked. That's three bad overthrows.

Buer · 03-11-2018 5:16pm

SA simply cannot hold onto the ball. They have to protect it. As good as de Allende had been that was poor. Juggling it non stop instead of releasing. Marx spilling it too. He cannot stay on any longer.

England now going to he ahead despite being miles off their opponents.

mangobob · 03-11-2018 5:19pm

England are actually winning this game lol. SA fans must be apoplectic...

vienne86 · 03-11-2018 5:21pm

How is Marx still on......that's another lineout lost.

Buer · 03-11-2018 5:21pm

Incredible statistic. 3 penalties conceded by SA after 55 minutes and they're 9-8 down.

SA lose yet another line out in England territory. Momentum has completely turned in the game.

Buer · 03-11-2018 5:22pm

Daly had to give that earlier and let May have a run. Wasteful.

stephen_n · 03-11-2018 5:23pm

Buer wrote: »

I wouldn't agree. Incredibly physical at the clear out and in carrying. England getting blown away in contact and they're not weak in that area. They're just lacking composure in the last 5-10m. If Erasmus can develop some composure and experience when they have teams on the rack, they're going to be very hard to beat.

All the possession all the territory and no real ideas about unlocking the English defence, which isn’t exactly brilliant. Yes they lack composure, but they also lack accuracy and gile. England have been incredibly poor today and are winning the game, it’s hard to say SA have been anything but incredibly physical. Which is pretty much the least you’d expect you’d expect from any SA side.

Buer · 03-11-2018 5:25pm

stephen_n wrote: »

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All the possession all the territory and no real ideas about unlocking the English defence, which isn’t exactly brilliant. Yes they lack composure, but they also lack accuracy and gile. England have been incredibly poor today and are winning the game, it’s hard to say SA have been anything but incredibly physical. Which is pretty much the least you’d expect you’d expect from any SA side.

In the first half they were moving the point of attack from the base repeatedly and opening England up repeatedly in midfield. Some great wide passes to skip out to midfield. No wide open breaks but plenty of half breaks and yards made through their backs. It was a very Ireland like display, actually.

03-11-2018 5:35pm

Moon playing scrum half for the first time in his life

Clegg · 03-11-2018 5:39pm

That's unbelievably poor from Shields. I've yet to see him play well.

Buer · 03-11-2018 5:39pm

England's best player has been Malcolm Marx. South Africa's best player has been Elliott Daly.

That's also a dropping offence by Shields.

stephen_n · 03-11-2018 5:40pm

Buer wrote: »

In the first half they were moving the point of attack from the base repeatedly and opening England up repeatedly in midfield. Some great wide passes to skip out to midfield. No wide open breaks but plenty of half breaks and yards made through their backs. It was a very Ireland like display, actually.

Most of the line breaks and meters made came from De Allende, but pretty much every time he got momentum or Pollard did, they failed to capitalise. Te’o has been very poor in defence which has contributed a lot to those breaks.

03-11-2018 5:41pm

That was a pass from Shields?! I presumed he got ripped.

mangobob · 03-11-2018 5:41pm

Clegg wrote: »

That's unbelievably poor from Shields. I've yet to see him play well.

Buer wrote: »

England's best player has been Malcolm Marx. South Africa's best player has been Elliott Daly.

That's also a dropping offence by Shields.

Atrocious decision to try to pass that. Almost comically bad in fact.

Boscoirl · 03-11-2018 5:42pm

England driving in like mad on that scrum

03-11-2018 5:44pm

That's as blatant a penalty against England as you can get.

cameramonkey · 03-11-2018 5:48pm

Both sides trying to lose it now.

Muscles Schultz · 03-11-2018 5:49pm

Both teams utterly pathetic and will be easy meat for Eire if we cross paths with them in the WC

03-11-2018 5:49pm

This is one of the worst games I've seen at this level.

England shouldn't be within an arses roar of South Africa and that's not to say anything positive about South Africa, they've been inventive enough but in no way clinical.

I can't believe how bad England are. They're just going through the motions, lack of intensity and structure but enough quality in the 23 that they are keeping a poor South African team just about at bay.

If they play like this against New Zealand they'll ship 30 points.

eigrod · 03-11-2018 5:51pm

Why didn’t they go for the dg?

Clegg · 03-11-2018 5:51pm

That was the game for SA. England were on the ropes and losing metres every phase.

03-11-2018 5:52pm

Utter cowardice from South Africa. Take the drop.

Clegg · 03-11-2018 5:53pm

Sorry that's a shoulder charge from Farrell.

stephen_n · 03-11-2018 5:54pm

Surely that’s a penalty

Clegg · 03-11-2018 5:55pm

The ref has bottled that completely.

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