England v S Africa 3rd Nov Match thread

kuang1

Just to not overlap with the Scotland Wales game!

kuang1

S Africa to win.

stephen_n

SA + 15

kuang1

England don't look up for this at all.

cameramonkey

Itoje offside all day so far.

stephen_n

Looks like the ball is going to spend half the game in the air today. Bash bash kick from both teams. No ideas or invention on show from either team.

cameramonkey

Lots of mistakes so far by both sides.

Burkie1203

Itoje and Sinckler giving away dumb penalties shocker

leakyboots

England discipline is very poor

cameramonkey

Jones looks like a man going to the gallows.

kuang1

Great catch and a blatant card for Itoje there.
What's happened to him at all...

Burkie1203

Itoje YC . Third pen he has given away in 15 min

cameramonkey

Love Itoje loses England so many games.

leakyboots

Burkie1203 wrote: »

Itoje and Sinckler giving away dumb penalties shocker

All they're missing is Dan Cole to complete the unholy trinity!

stephen_n

Itoje possibly the most overhyped player of the last decade, no rugby intelligence at all.

cameramonkey

England are a mess.

stephen_n

What a let off for England, so stupid by SA

leakyboots

Of all times to overthrow

mfceiling

stephen_n wrote: »

Itoje possibly the most overhyped player of the last decade, no rugby intelligence at all.

Have to admit there's a slight bit of schadenfreude after his mocking of the Glasgow players celebrations a couple of weeks ago.

stephen_n

mfceiling wrote: »

Have to admit there's a slight bit of schadenfreude after his mocking of the Glasgow players celebrations a couple of weeks ago.

This isn’t the first time he’s done this, he’s a bit of a penalty machine. Yeah there’s a bit of a couldn’t happen to a nicer guy feel to that.

cameramonkey

Both sides making so many mistakes,

cameramonkey

May dumb, SA dumber.

They blew at least 3 try chances.

stephen_n

Marx not doing much for his world player of the year chances today.

mangobob

SA absolutely shooting themselves in the foot here. Bok mistakes keeping England in it here.

leakyboots

leakyboots wrote: »

Of all times to overthrow

Echo

Bridge93

What are South Africa at? Ridiculous

cameramonkey

no arm tackle by Teo

Bridge93

Bizarre game. SA so much better it’s frightening yet are totally incapable of scoring

cameramonkey

About time.

stephen_n

Eddie Jones must be a very happy man to only be 2points down. SA are just so average.

vienne86

That was an awful half of rugby. SA seem determined to not take their chances. They should be several scores ahead of England.....who just look rubbish.

Clegg

South Africa should be ahead by at least 10 points. England are dreadful.

vienne86

Thinking of switching over to Treviso v Ulster.....might be better rugby....unless Rassie kicks ass at half time.

Buer

SA using some very familiar strike runner moves from the ruck. Anyone who has followed Schmidt for the last decade will have seen a few of those.

Buer

stephen_n wrote: »

Eddie Jones must be a very happy man to only be 2points down. SA are just so average.

I wouldn't agree. Incredibly physical at the clear out and in carrying. England getting blown away in contact and they're not weak in that area. They're just lacking composure in the last 5-10m. If Erasmus can develop some composure and experience when they have teams on the rack, they're going to be very hard to beat.

vienne86

These overthrows by SA at the lineout are criminal.

Buer

Marx has to be hooked. That's three bad overthrows.

Buer

SA simply cannot hold onto the ball. They have to protect it. As good as de Allende had been that was poor. Juggling it non stop instead of releasing. Marx spilling it too. He cannot stay on any longer.

England now going to he ahead despite being miles off their opponents.

mangobob

England are actually winning this game lol. SA fans must be apoplectic...

vienne86

How is Marx still on......that's another lineout lost.

Buer

Incredible statistic. 3 penalties conceded by SA after 55 minutes and they're 9-8 down.

SA lose yet another line out in England territory. Momentum has completely turned in the game.

Buer

Daly had to give that earlier and let May have a run. Wasteful.

stephen_n

Buer wrote: »

I wouldn't agree. Incredibly physical at the clear out and in carrying. England getting blown away in contact and they're not weak in that area. They're just lacking composure in the last 5-10m. If Erasmus can develop some composure and experience when they have teams on the rack, they're going to be very hard to beat.

All the possession all the territory and no real ideas about unlocking the English defence, which isn’t exactly brilliant. Yes they lack composure, but they also lack accuracy and gile. England have been incredibly poor today and are winning the game, it’s hard to say SA have been anything but incredibly physical. Which is pretty much the least you’d expect you’d expect from any SA side.

Buer

stephen_n wrote: »

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All the possession all the territory and no real ideas about unlocking the English defence, which isn’t exactly brilliant. Yes they lack composure, but they also lack accuracy and gile. England have been incredibly poor today and are winning the game, it’s hard to say SA have been anything but incredibly physical. Which is pretty much the least you’d expect you’d expect from any SA side.

In the first half they were moving the point of attack from the base repeatedly and opening England up repeatedly in midfield. Some great wide passes to skip out to midfield. No wide open breaks but plenty of half breaks and yards made through their backs. It was a very Ireland like display, actually.

Moon playing scrum half for the first time in his life

Clegg

That's unbelievably poor from Shields. I've yet to see him play well.

Buer

England's best player has been Malcolm Marx. South Africa's best player has been Elliott Daly.

That's also a dropping offence by Shields.

stephen_n

Buer wrote: »

In the first half they were moving the point of attack from the base repeatedly and opening England up repeatedly in midfield. Some great wide passes to skip out to midfield. No wide open breaks but plenty of half breaks and yards made through their backs. It was a very Ireland like display, actually.

Most of the line breaks and meters made came from De Allende, but pretty much every time he got momentum or Pollard did, they failed to capitalise. Te’o has been very poor in defence which has contributed a lot to those breaks.

That was a pass from Shields?! I presumed he got ripped.

mangobob

Clegg wrote: »

That's unbelievably poor from Shields. I've yet to see him play well.

Buer wrote: »

England's best player has been Malcolm Marx. South Africa's best player has been Elliott Daly.

That's also a dropping offence by Shields.

Atrocious decision to try to pass that. Almost comically bad in fact.

Boscoirl

England driving in like mad on that scrum