Chinese bus crash

Green&Red · 02-11-2018 08:28PM #1

Hard to know where to put this, what the actual f**k

https://www.rte.ie/news/world/2018/1102/1008195-china-bus-crash/

archer22 · 02-11-2018 08:35PM

Shows why drivers need to have a barrier between them and passengers.

Silent Running · 02-11-2018 08:37PM

I watched the footage from the bus a couple of times. The driver should have just stopped the bus, but it looks like he lost the head and deliberately turned the steering wheel a full turn, taking the bus over the edge. It all seems very strange.

archer22 · 02-11-2018 08:40PM

Silent Running wrote: »

I watched the footage from the bus a couple of times. The driver should have just stopped the bus, but it looks like he lost the head and deliberately turned the steering wheel a full turn, taking the bus over the edge. It all seems very strange.

Looks to me like he got distracted by being attacked.

mickdw · 02-11-2018 08:42PM

It does look like he flipped. I can see no reason to suddenly turn the bus and he made no effort to steer away either.

TheValeyard · 02-11-2018 08:45PM

All this over a missed bus stop!

Absolutely mental.

Those poor passengers

Silent Running · 02-11-2018 08:47PM

archer22 wrote: »

Looks to me like he got distracted by being attacked.

At first he was distracted and he kept a reasonably straight line. Then he went right hand over the top of the steering wheel and completed the full turn with his left hand. Really does look like a deliberate act.

archer22 · 02-11-2018 08:49PM

Silent Running wrote: »

At first he was distracted and he kept a reasonably straight line. Then he went right hand over the top of the steering wheel and completed the full turn with his left hand. Really does look like a deliberate act.

He found himself in the wrong lane and tried to avoid a head on collision with a car.

TheValeyard · 02-11-2018 08:51PM

I wonder would you be dead as soon as the bus hit the water because of the height or suffer with fear and drowning. Either way a horrible end for people simply trying to get somewhere.

Silent Running · 02-11-2018 08:52PM

archer22 wrote: »

He found himself in the wrong lane and tried to avoid a head on collision with a car.

No, that's not what happened. Watch the dashcam footage. He's going straight in his own lane, then suddenly swerves across the opposite carriageway. The turn is not a drift, it is a sudden direction change.

sullivlo · 02-11-2018 08:53PM

Murray TheDemonic TalkingSkull wrote: »

I wonder would you be dead as soon as the bus hit the water because of the height or suffer with fear and drowning. Either way a horrible end for people simply trying to get somewhere.

Nice cheery thought there!!!

TheValeyard · 02-11-2018 08:53PM

sullivlo wrote: »

Nice cheery thought there!!!

Yeah, I know it's morbid, but just a thought that crossed my mind watching the footage on the news.

arybvtcw0eolkf · 02-11-2018 08:59PM

Murray TheDemonic TalkingSkull wrote: »

I wonder would you be dead as soon as the bus hit the water because of the height or suffer with fear and drowning. Either way a horrible end for people simply trying to get somewhere.

I would imagine most drowned.

archer22 · 02-11-2018 09:04PM

Silent Running wrote: »

No, that's not what happened. Watch the dashcam footage. He's going straight in his own lane, then suddenly swerves across the opposite carriageway. The turn is not a drift, it is a sudden direction change.

When you are holding something in your left hand ie a steering wheel and you swing your right hand back.. your left hand tends to go in the opposite direction.

try it while sitting in your car ...stationary not on the road

OneOfThem Stumbled · 02-11-2018 09:09PM

I looked at it a few times, without seeing anyone else's comments, and was convinced that he did it deliberately, immediately after getting attacked by the woman. Can't speak to his actual intention (deliberately swerving across the road and/or hitting the barrier doesn't... necessarily... mean he intended killing everyone) but that's what I say.

Like look at him, he deliberately turns the wheel and follows through.

Crash barrier could do with being a bit stronger too.

archer22 · 02-11-2018 09:21PM

OneOfThem Stumbled wrote: »

I looked at it a few times, without seeing anyone else's comments, and was convinced that he did it deliberately, immediately after getting attacked by the woman. Can't speak to his actual intention (deliberately swerving across the road and/or hitting the barrier doesn't... necessarily... mean he intended killing everyone) but that's what I say.

Like look at him, he deliberately turns the wheel and follows through.

Crash barrier could do with being a bit stronger too.

At the end of the day its was the combination of factors that caused him to go over the bridge.

The person with ultimate responsibility for the tragedy is the crazy passenger.

bucketybuck · 02-11-2018 09:24PM

OneOfThem Stumbled wrote: »

I looked at it a few times, without seeing anyone else's comments, and was convinced that he did it deliberately

I thought that as well, it really does look like he steered left and made no attempt to pull out of it.

But looking at the two videos a few times, I'm starting to think that when he veered left the first thing his vision saw was that oncoming car, and that he was trying to continue left to avoid the head on collision.

The only problem being that he was on a bridge instead of a road that might have given him somewhere to go once past the car.

Reati · 02-11-2018 09:29PM

archer22 wrote: »

When you are holding something in your left hand ie a steering wheel and you swing your right hand back.. your left hand tends to go in the opposite direction.

try it while sitting in your car ...stationary not on the road

Exactly. This is why armchair detectives are dangerous because they don't understand how something happens biologically or psychologically etc and then we have reams of people believing he purposefully drove the bus off the bridge.

Silent Running · 02-11-2018 09:33PM

archer22 wrote: »

Silent Running wrote: »

No, that's not what happened. Watch the dashcam footage. He's going straight in his own lane, then suddenly swerves across the opposite carriageway. The turn is not a drift, it is a sudden direction change.

When you are holding something in your left hand ie a steering wheel and you swing your right hand back.. your left hand tends to go in the opposite direction.

try it while sitting in your car ...stationary not on the road

You obviously haven't watched the video. He starts to turn the steering wheel with his right hand.

He had no reason to turn. The road ahead of him was clear and he was keeping straight, right up to the time he deliberately hooked a left turn. He wasn't avoiding anything.

Silent Running · 02-11-2018 09:38PM

Reati wrote: »

archer22 wrote: »

When you are holding something in your left hand ie a steering wheel and you swing your right hand back.. your left hand tends to go in the opposite direction.

try it while sitting in your car ...stationary not on the road

Exactly. This is why armchair detectives are dangerous because they don't understand how something happens biologically or psychologically etc and then we have reams of people believing he purposefully drove the bus off the bridge.

Glad we have an expert to guide us. Did you figure out the Germanwings pilot? Who was he swerving to avoid then?

Sciprio · 02-11-2018 09:42PM

Next stop: Heaven.

siblers · 02-11-2018 09:44PM

Wonder if the person/people in the red car died as well.

I can't see how he was trying to swerve any oncoming cars seeing as he had swerved left when he was in the correct lane, but it seems bananas that he intentionally did it too

kneemos · 02-11-2018 09:49PM

Silent Running wrote: »

You obviously haven't watched the video. He starts to turn the steering wheel with his right hand.

He had no reason to turn. The road ahead of him was clear and he was keeping straight, right up to the time he deliberately hooked a left turn. He wasn't avoiding anything.

His right hand did a full lock to the left.

Maybe he was on a suicide mission and that's why he wasn't stopping at the stops.

xabi · 02-11-2018 09:52PM

Looks deliberate to me, maybe not his intention to go off the bridge, but he did a full turn of the wheel using both hands.

patsy_mccabe · 02-11-2018 09:52PM

I was in China once. Travelling by taxi and queuing up to get through a tool plaza. One guy cut off another and the two got out and started punching the sh1te out of each other. Thought it was hilarious at the time. The kind of thing you'd never see here.

Bruthal · 02-11-2018 10:00PM

xabi wrote: »

Looks deliberate to me, maybe not his intention to go off the bridge, but he did a full turn of the wheel using both hands.

It does look intentional.

Hard left, then clearly looking straight out ahead and kept the line, straight through barrier.

mzungu · 02-11-2018 10:03PM

siblers wrote: »

Wonder if the person/people in the red car died as well.

They survived according to the news.

CinemaGuy45 · 02-11-2018 10:21PM

Missing a stop and attacking the driver this woman was one crazy bitch.
Regardless of anything else, this is the cause.

Oriental people have the highest average IQ and the lowest levels of aggression, not PC but it is fact.

What makes China so different from Japan is the very corrupt Communist government.
People are packed into dense megacities causing all kinds of road rage.
The link does not say what city but it looks big.

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Feel very sorry for the relatives of those who died.

Green&Red · 02-11-2018 10:21PM

siblers wrote: »

Wonder if the person/people in the red car died as well.

They survived, so the news had it

CinemaGuy45 · 02-11-2018 10:24PM

T Virus wrote: »

Dis thread so wong.

Innocent people are dead what the fcuk is wrong with you?:mad:

Ulmus · 02-11-2018 10:30PM

kneemos wrote: »

His right hand did a full lock to the left.

Maybe he was on a suicide mission and that's why he wasn't stopping at the stops.

It does look like he did it on purpose. Perhaps the woman who struck him is not to blame after all. We'll never know. The Chinese police won't bother investigating the background of the driver. He's not an Uighur and Communist Party rulers don't travel by bus.

Chinese bus crash

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