Chinese bus crash

Green&Red

Hard to know where to put this, what the actual f**k

https://www.rte.ie/news/world/2018/1102/1008195-china-bus-crash/

archer22

Shows why drivers need to have a barrier between them and passengers.

Silent Running

I watched the footage from the bus a couple of times. The driver should have just stopped the bus, but it looks like he lost the head and deliberately turned the steering wheel a full turn, taking the bus over the edge. It all seems very strange.

archer22

Silent Running wrote: »

I watched the footage from the bus a couple of times. The driver should have just stopped the bus, but it looks like he lost the head and deliberately turned the steering wheel a full turn, taking the bus over the edge. It all seems very strange.

Looks to me like he got distracted by being attacked.

mickdw

It does look like he flipped. I can see no reason to suddenly turn the bus and he made no effort to steer away either.

TheValeyard

All this over a missed bus stop!

Absolutely mental.

Those poor passengers

Silent Running

archer22 wrote: »

Looks to me like he got distracted by being attacked.

At first he was distracted and he kept a reasonably straight line. Then he went right hand over the top of the steering wheel and completed the full turn with his left hand. Really does look like a deliberate act.

archer22

Silent Running wrote: »

At first he was distracted and he kept a reasonably straight line. Then he went right hand over the top of the steering wheel and completed the full turn with his left hand. Really does look like a deliberate act.

He found himself in the wrong lane and tried to avoid a head on collision with a car.

TheValeyard

I wonder would you be dead as soon as the bus hit the water because of the height or suffer with fear and drowning. Either way a horrible end for people simply trying to get somewhere.

Silent Running

archer22 wrote: »

He found himself in the wrong lane and tried to avoid a head on collision with a car.

No, that's not what happened. Watch the dashcam footage. He's going straight in his own lane, then suddenly swerves across the opposite carriageway. The turn is not a drift, it is a sudden direction change.

sullivlo

Murray TheDemonic TalkingSkull wrote: »

I wonder would you be dead as soon as the bus hit the water because of the height or suffer with fear and drowning. Either way a horrible end for people simply trying to get somewhere.

Nice cheery thought there!!!

TheValeyard

sullivlo wrote: »

Nice cheery thought there!!!

Yeah, I know it's morbid, but just a thought that crossed my mind watching the footage on the news.

arybvtcw0eolkf

Murray TheDemonic TalkingSkull wrote: »

I wonder would you be dead as soon as the bus hit the water because of the height or suffer with fear and drowning. Either way a horrible end for people simply trying to get somewhere.

I would imagine most drowned.

archer22

Silent Running wrote: »

No, that's not what happened. Watch the dashcam footage. He's going straight in his own lane, then suddenly swerves across the opposite carriageway. The turn is not a drift, it is a sudden direction change.

When you are holding something in your left hand ie a steering wheel and you swing your right hand back.. your left hand tends to go in the opposite direction.

try it while sitting in your car ...stationary not on the road

OneOfThem Stumbled

I looked at it a few times, without seeing anyone else's comments, and was convinced that he did it deliberately, immediately after getting attacked by the woman. Can't speak to his actual intention (deliberately swerving across the road and/or hitting the barrier doesn't... necessarily... mean he intended killing everyone) but that's what I say.

Like look at him, he deliberately turns the wheel and follows through.

Crash barrier could do with being a bit stronger too.

archer22

OneOfThem Stumbled wrote: »

I looked at it a few times, without seeing anyone else's comments, and was convinced that he did it deliberately, immediately after getting attacked by the woman. Can't speak to his actual intention (deliberately swerving across the road and/or hitting the barrier doesn't... necessarily... mean he intended killing everyone) but that's what I say.

Like look at him, he deliberately turns the wheel and follows through.

Crash barrier could do with being a bit stronger too.

At the end of the day its was the combination of factors that caused him to go over the bridge.

The person with ultimate responsibility for the tragedy is the crazy passenger.

bucketybuck

OneOfThem Stumbled wrote: »

I looked at it a few times, without seeing anyone else's comments, and was convinced that he did it deliberately

I thought that as well, it really does look like he steered left and made no attempt to pull out of it.

But looking at the two videos a few times, I'm starting to think that when he veered left the first thing his vision saw was that oncoming car, and that he was trying to continue left to avoid the head on collision.

The only problem being that he was on a bridge instead of a road that might have given him somewhere to go once past the car.

Reati

archer22 wrote: »

When you are holding something in your left hand ie a steering wheel and you swing your right hand back.. your left hand tends to go in the opposite direction.

try it while sitting in your car ...stationary not on the road

Exactly. This is why armchair detectives are dangerous because they don't understand how something happens biologically or psychologically etc and then we have reams of people believing he purposefully drove the bus off the bridge.

Silent Running

archer22 wrote: »

Silent Running wrote: »

No, that's not what happened. Watch the dashcam footage. He's going straight in his own lane, then suddenly swerves across the opposite carriageway. The turn is not a drift, it is a sudden direction change.

When you are holding something in your left hand ie a steering wheel and you swing your right hand back.. your left hand tends to go in the opposite direction.

try it while sitting in your car ...stationary not on the road

You obviously haven't watched the video. He starts to turn the steering wheel with his right hand.

He had no reason to turn. The road ahead of him was clear and he was keeping straight, right up to the time he deliberately hooked a left turn. He wasn't avoiding anything.

Silent Running

Reati wrote: »

archer22 wrote: »

When you are holding something in your left hand ie a steering wheel and you swing your right hand back.. your left hand tends to go in the opposite direction.

try it while sitting in your car ...stationary not on the road

Exactly. This is why armchair detectives are dangerous because they don't understand how something happens biologically or psychologically etc and then we have reams of people believing he purposefully drove the bus off the bridge.

Glad we have an expert to guide us. Did you figure out the Germanwings pilot? Who was he swerving to avoid then?

Sciprio

Next stop: Heaven.

siblers

Wonder if the person/people in the red car died as well.

I can't see how he was trying to swerve any oncoming cars seeing as he had swerved left when he was in the correct lane, but it seems bananas that he intentionally did it too

kneemos

Silent Running wrote: »

You obviously haven't watched the video. He starts to turn the steering wheel with his right hand.

He had no reason to turn. The road ahead of him was clear and he was keeping straight, right up to the time he deliberately hooked a left turn. He wasn't avoiding anything.

His right hand did a full lock to the left.

Maybe he was on a suicide mission and that's why he wasn't stopping at the stops.

xabi

Looks deliberate to me, maybe not his intention to go off the bridge, but he did a full turn of the wheel using both hands.

patsy_mccabe

I was in China once. Travelling by taxi and queuing up to get through a tool plaza. One guy cut off another and the two got out and started punching the sh1te out of each other. Thought it was hilarious at the time. The kind of thing you'd never see here.

Bruthal

xabi wrote: »

Looks deliberate to me, maybe not his intention to go off the bridge, but he did a full turn of the wheel using both hands.

It does look intentional.

Hard left, then clearly looking straight out ahead and kept the line, straight through barrier.

mzungu

siblers wrote: »

Wonder if the person/people in the red car died as well.

They survived according to the news.

CinemaGuy45

Missing a stop and attacking the driver this woman was one crazy bitch.
Regardless of anything else, this is the cause.

Oriental people have the highest average IQ and the lowest levels of aggression, not PC but it is fact.

What makes China so different from Japan is the very corrupt Communist government.
People are packed into dense megacities causing all kinds of road rage.
The link does not say what city but it looks big.



Feel very sorry for the relatives of those who died.

Green&Red

siblers wrote: »

Wonder if the person/people in the red car died as well.

They survived, so the news had it

CinemaGuy45

T Virus wrote: »

Dis thread so wong.

Innocent people are dead what the fcuk is wrong with you?:mad:

Ulmus

kneemos wrote: »

His right hand did a full lock to the left.

Maybe he was on a suicide mission and that's why he wasn't stopping at the stops.

It does look like he did it on purpose. Perhaps the woman who struck him is not to blame after all. We'll never know. The Chinese police won't bother investigating the background of the driver. He's not an Uighur and Communist Party rulers don't travel by bus.

Lucena

Crash barrier could do with being a bit stronger too.

It's China, they half-ass everything.

alan1963

Sciprio wrote: »

Next stop: Heaven.

Or Hell.

Kevin Finnerty

The real question here regarding such an atrocity, what's 13 from 1.3 billion expressed as a fraction?

Not funny I know but my brain works mathematically.

CinemaGuy45

The racist heartless moronic post gets 3 moronic thanks.:(

CinemaGuy45

Kevin Finnerty wrote: »

The real question here regarding such an atrocity, what's 13 from 1.3 billion expressed as a fraction?

Not funny I know but my brain works mathematically.

:rolleyes::rolleyes:

Edit what the hell is wrong with people these days a tragedy occurs the people present whip out their phones and go onto social media and people on the internet make fun of the dead.

The real question here is what the hell is wrong with you?

Kevin Finnerty

CinemaGuy45 wrote: »

:rolleyes::rolleyes:

Keep at the emojis, they'll get you writing soon.

CPTM

From looking at the footage, I think it was a calculated and purposeful veer to the left in an attempt to throw her off balance and to the other side of the bus.

Reasons:
1) Plenty of room on his side of the road to correct his position

2) If he would have come to a stop on the bridge, her life would have been turned upside down with legal issues for causing a bus driver to crash, whereas he would just get a different bus to drive

But can anyone see an attempt to brake? I think his left leg changes position slightly but I would have expected a more sudden movement.

I do feel bad for the others on the bus who were probably just trying to get from A to B.

CinemaGuy45

Kevin Finnerty wrote: »

Keep at the emojis, they'll get you writing soon.

No thoughts on the dead or their greaving relatives.

I was at the scene of a very nasty accident this year and idiots whipped out their phones to post on Facebook and other morons on Facebook made jokes.

But I suppose a young girl trapped under a car is funny?:rolleyes:

I just keep in mind there are real people involved here.

archer22

Lucena wrote: »

It's China, they half-ass everything.

We should send some of our lads there to teach them how to build things..like schools for example and also how to build grand houses out of Pyrite.

CinemaGuy45

Lucena wrote: »

It's China, they half-ass everything.

Yes looks pretty backwards alright.
We need to get the Luas builders over there to show them how to do things.

Idbatterim

they will have far bigger cities than Dublin that we will never have heard of and people think China is the banana republic? :rolleyes:

Idbatterim

they will have far bigger cities than Dublin that we will never have heard of and people think China is the banana republic? :rolleyes:

Kevin Finnerty

There ya go! Twice🀣🀣

and underwater robots,

Only in China.

The Hill Billy

Kevin Finnerty wrote: »

The real question here regarding such an atrocity, what's 13 from 1.3 billion expressed as a fraction?

Not funny I know but my brain works mathematically.

Classy.

um7y1h83ge06nx

If they were sweet and not sour none of this would have happened.

ahnowbrowncow

The bus driver veered to the left deliberately, no doubt about it at all. The steering wheel was straight, the bus was in the correct lane. He then swings the steering around in a controlled manner and makes no attempt to correct it. There's nothing about his body language either that would make you think he was concerned about crashing into a car and barrier and careering off the edge of a suspension bridge.

People must be watching a different video if they think it was accidental and that he was in the wrong lane and was just trying to avoid a collision.

Before the big veer, you can see cars driving parallel to him out the window. For now I'd say it was intentional, and the passenger either drove him over the edge, or knew he was about to kill everyone.

JupiterKid

Looks like a murder-suicide to me.

The bus driver had probably loathed his life and job and finally snapped at that row with the passenger.

RIP to the victims.

I would love to visit but would absolutely hate to have to live there.

squawker

JupiterKid wrote: »

Looks like a murder-suicide to me.

The bus driver had probably loathed his life and job and finally snapped at that row with the passenger.

let me guess you are not more than 22