Gladiator 2

py2006 · 02-11-2018 6:06pm #1

....apparently

Ridley Scott is working on GLADIATOR 2!

....Ridley Scott, director of the original and numerous other classic films, stating that he is actively working on bringing GLADIATOR 2 to life with the help of screenwriter Peter Craig (THE TOWN) according to a report from Deadline.

The story will apparently focus on Lucius, the young boy from the first film, as an adult. At this time there are no other plot details.

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pixelburp · 02-11-2018 7:16pm

Awww, I'm disappointed that it won't be that infamous Nick Cave version; that sounded brilliantly demented.

http://www.bbc.com/culture/story/20180810-gladiator-2-was-written-and-its-mad

judeboy101 · 02-11-2018 7:18pm

Scott obviously hasn't learnt from his alien sequels

m5ex9oqjawdg2i · 02-11-2018 7:29pm

Please don't... absolutely zero imagination.

nix · 02-11-2018 7:29pm

Are we not entertained?!?

Frank Bullitt · 02-11-2018 7:40pm

brianregan09 · 02-11-2018 9:58pm

This is bad..........like real bad

Slydice · 02-11-2018 11:25pm

Hrmm.. Gladiator always felt liked a wrapped up story to me.

Went looking for the end song, this has a recap of the full film with it:

also.. the feels.. or at least.. a memory of the feels from the first time I watched it.

JP Liz V1 · 03-11-2018 12:10am

Who was Lucius father, Commodus or Maximus?

Sad Professor · 03-11-2018 12:19am

JP Liz V1 wrote: »

Who was Lucius father, Commodus or Maximus?

Neither. His father is only briefly mentioned as having died.

JP Liz V1 · 03-11-2018 12:25am

Sad Professor wrote: »

Neither. His father is only briefly mentioned as having died.

I thought Lucilla maybe wanted or implied it to be Maximus and always thought Commodus had an unhealthy interest in his sister

Gamb!t · 03-11-2018 12:46am

He should have left it alone,the movie ended perfectly.
I doubt Crowe will have anything to do with it.

nix · 03-11-2018 1:58am

Gamb!t wrote: »

He should have left it alone,the movie ended perfectly.
I doubt Crowe will have anything to do with it.

Well...

he's dead

:pac:

03-11-2018 2:57am

This isn't a remake of a remake of a remake. No reason in my view to be skeptical at all. Time for another film like Gladiator. We need blockbusters again that aren't written for children.

Gamb!t · 03-11-2018 10:08pm

nix wrote: »

Well...
he's dead

:pac:

Old article from last year.
https://www.slashfilm.com/gladiator-sequel/

nix · 03-11-2018 10:11pm

Gamb!t wrote: »

Old article from last year.
https://www.slashfilm.com/gladiator-sequel/

Hes still dead

:P

And

resurrecting

him would be ****ing terrible and would completely ruin the impact of the entire first film.

Gamb!t · 03-11-2018 10:34pm

nix wrote: »

Hes still dead
:P

And
resurrecting
him would be ****ing terrible and would completely ruin the impact of the entire first film.

Exactly.
It would be ridiculous to bring him back,not to mind make a sequel of this movie.

xper · 03-11-2018 11:36pm

If they are looking at a second film at all, I'm surprised that it would not be a prequel - lots of emotional history between the main protagonists, Maximus's rise from Spanish farmer to be Rome's greatest general (lots of set piece battle opportunities), his replacement of Commodus as a 'son' in the eyes of the emperor, some sort of fling with Lucilla that didn't end well. It doesn't have to be about gladiators. New younger cast required of course. It would also have to overcome the rather awkward fact/plot hole established in Gladiator that he had never been to Rome but yet had an established history with the emperor's family.

But most of all, I just wish a great film maker like Scott would not keep returning to go over old ground with so little return. He's 80 now so we probably won't get many more hits from him (he does have a ridiculous number of projects in the works on IMDB) but when he takes on solid, fresh material like The Martian he can clearly still knock it out of the park.

dreamers75 · 04-11-2018 12:06am

Tbh that Nick Cave version sounds amazing

brianregan09 · 04-11-2018 3:18pm

The Nick Cave script is more a script for a God of War movie than Gladiator

StringerBell · 04-11-2018 6:29pm

Every day we stray further from God

Riddle101 · 04-11-2018 7:55pm

I liked Gladiator a lot but a sequel would be silly. There are some movies that just don't need a sequel and I would consider Gladiator one of them. I think they said everything that needed to be said with the last movie.

Greyfox · 04-11-2018 9:40pm

Riddle101 wrote: »

I liked Gladiator a lot but a sequel would be silly. There are some movies that just don't need a sequel and I would consider Gladiator one of them. I think they said everything that needed to be said with the last movie.

Problem is were talking about Hollywood, they never think this way and would rather someone come up with a flimsy story around Maximus early years rather than come up with an original story set in Rome. I'm starting to feel like Hollywood will never mace a film with swords better than Gladiator or Braveheart

Greyfox · 04-11-2018 9:40pm

Riddle101 wrote: »

I liked Gladiator a lot but a sequel would be silly. There are some movies that just don't need a sequel and I would consider Gladiator one of them. I think they said everything that needed to be said with the last movie.

Problem is were talking about Hollywood, they never think this way and would rather someone come up with a flimsy story around Maximus early years rather than come up with an original story set in Rome. I'm starting to feel like Hollywood will never mace a film with swords better than Gladiator or Braveheart

fonecrusher1 · 05-11-2018 5:30pm

As a fan of most of Ridley Scott's work it pains me to say it but the man is no longer fit to be creating any further prequels / sequels of his own movies.

Prometheus was like a kick in the gut. Alien covenant was then like getting stomped in the nuts.

No more. Please.

mikhail · 05-11-2018 5:57pm

xper wrote: »

But most of all, I just wish a great film maker like Scott would not keep returning to go over old ground with so little return. He's 80 now so we probably won't get many more hits from him (he does have a ridiculous number of projects in the works on IMDB) but when he takes on solid, fresh material like The Martian he can clearly still knock it out of the park.

He's always been reliant on being lucky with the screenwriter and the story. This is what's so galling to see him doing sequels of films that don't need sequels. The odds are just against a great script coming out of that process.

Tony EH · 06-11-2018 1:00am

JP Liz V1 wrote: »

Who was Lucius father, Commodus or Maximus?

Lucius Verus in real life. He was co ruler with Marcus Aurelius until he died.

But, anything goes in these films, which play fast and loose with history, sometimes bizarrely so.

Tony EH · 06-11-2018 1:03am

Deleted User wrote: »

This isn't a remake of a remake of a remake. No reason in my view to be skeptical at all. Time for another film like Gladiator. We need blockbusters again that aren't written for children.

If it's done right, it could be good and I like the original film, with some reservations.

But Scott has had a bad run of things trying to revive his past glories. He's absolutely wrecked Alien.

Agricola · 06-11-2018 9:42pm

Going by his recent Alien films, this will be just an exercise in cashing in on the Gladiator name. Scott is all about the visuals and nothing else. Without a very strong team of writers, he's not really at the races as a director. Gladiator itself was very nearly a cheap forgettable revenge film, but for the people they conscripted in last minute to put some soul into it. I don't think Scott has any worries about making a sub par film as long as it has the CGI in spades.

I'm all for another spate of historical epics like we saw in the early 2000s, anything to give us respite from all these fúcking superhero movies. But they really can't square the circle of doing another Gladiator film without Crowe. It would be like a Rocky film without Stallone. Luckily for Stallone he didn't die in Rocky 1!

Tony EH · 06-11-2018 9:55pm

Agricola wrote: »

I'm all for another spate of historical epics like we saw in the early 2000s, anything to give us respite from all these fúcking superhero movies.

In fairness, most of them were awful. The likes of 'Troy' or 'Alexander' were completely missed opportunities. But, I'm surprised nobody's ever made a film about Scipio Africanus and the second Punic war, culminating in the battle of Zama against Hannibal and the Carthaginians. There's a story right there and you don't even have to make it up.

But, yeh. Don't even bother downloading the superhero films now.

Agricola wrote: »

But they really can't square the circle of doing another Gladiator film without Crowe. It would be like a Rocky film without Stallone. Luckily for Stallone he didn't die in Rocky 1!

But, there were hundreds of thousands of gladiators.

There was only one Rocky. :pac:

Who should have died at the end of 'Rocky II' so we would have been spared all of those terrible, terrible sequels.

As far as I'm concerned, Rocky retired after he took the title from Apollo and never looked back.

Seriously though 'Rocky' is called Rocky because it's about Rocky. 'Gladiator' is called that because it's about a gladiator. So, 'Gladiator II' could be about another gladiator. In any case, they'll probably make a balls of it, so it all won't matter anyway.

Agricola · 06-11-2018 10:14pm

Tony EH wrote: »

In fairness, most of them were awful. The likes of 'Troy' or 'Alexander' were completely missed opportunities. But, I'm surprised nobody's ever made a film about Scipio Africanus and the second Punic war, culminating in the battle of Zama against Hannibal and the Carthaginians. There's a story right there and you don't even have to make it up.

But, yeh. Don't even bother downloading the superhero films now.

But, there were hundreds of thousands of gladiators.

There was only one Rocky. :pac:

Who should have died at the end of 'Rocky II' so we would have been spared all of those terrible, terrible sequels.

As far as I'm concerned, Rocky retired after he took the title from Apollo and never looked back.

Seriously though 'Rocky' is called Rocky because it's about Rocky. 'Gladiator' is called that because it's about a gladiator. So, 'Gladiator II' could be about another gladiator. In any case, they'll probably make a balls of it, so it all won't matter anyway.

Agree with ya about Scipio. I remember having to do an essay in college on leadership and I researched him. Great story and would'nt need much dramatizing to bring to the screen. I'm always dubious about biopics though. I still think a completely free reign with a fictional character would be the way to go here.

I realize there were thousands of gladiators, but my point is continuing the Maximus story just can't work. Certainly they could make a film set in ancient Rome and reference "Gladiator" but i don't see how it can be much more than that. And saying "lets just make another film about fights in the colosseum" completely misses the point. That's what I reckon WILL happen and it will just tarnish the first movie. Gladiator was a great blockbuster with plenty of amazing action and spectacle but it had a fantastic premise and was really tightly written, expertly paced. No fat on it whatsoever. If they want another film which will live up to it, they need to come up with a really great plot.

xper · 08-11-2018 12:56am

Gladiator v Alien

Problem solved.

Gamb!t · 08-11-2018 8:37am

Tony EH wrote: »

In fairness, most of them were awful. The likes of 'Troy' or 'Alexander' were completely missed opportunities. But, I'm surprised nobody's ever made a film about Scipio Africanus and the second Punic war, culminating in the battle of Zama against Hannibal and the Carthaginians. There's a story right there and you don't even have to make it up.

But, yeh. Don't even bother downloading the superhero films now.

But, there were hundreds of thousands of gladiators.

There was only one Rocky. :pac:

Who should have died at the end of 'Rocky II' so we would have been spared all of those terrible, terrible sequels.

As far as I'm concerned, Rocky retired after he took the title from Apollo and never looked back.

Seriously though 'Rocky' is called Rocky because it's about Rocky. 'Gladiator' is called that because it's about a gladiator. So, 'Gladiator II' could be about another gladiator. In any case, they'll probably make a balls of it, so it all won't matter anyway.

Terrible sequels,I happened to enjoy Rocky 3 and Rocky 4 very much along eighth plenty of othersðŸ˜Ž

Hector Savage · 09-11-2018 4:21pm

Tony EH wrote: »

In fairness, most of them were awful. The likes of 'Troy' or 'Alexander' were completely missed opportunities. But, I'm surprised nobody's ever made a film about Scipio Africanus and the second Punic war, culminating in the battle of Zama against Hannibal and the Carthaginians. There's a story right there and you don't even have to make it up.

But, yeh. Don't even bother downloading the superhero films now.

But, there were hundreds of thousands of gladiators.

There was only one Rocky. :pac:

Who should have died at the end of 'Rocky II' so we would have been spared all of those terrible, terrible sequels.

As far as I'm concerned, Rocky retired after he took the title from Apollo and never looked back.

Seriously though 'Rocky' is called Rocky because it's about Rocky. 'Gladiator' is called that because it's about a gladiator. So, 'Gladiator II' could be about another gladiator. In any case, they'll probably make a balls of it, so it all won't matter anyway.

Ah come on now ! Rocky IV is the best Rocky !!!

Hector Savage · 09-11-2018 4:21pm

xper wrote: »

Gladiator v Alien

Problem solved.

In the Colosseum ... arbitrated by The Predator - an Oscar winner.

Tony EH · 09-11-2018 4:36pm

Gamb!t wrote: »

Terrible sequels,I happened to enjoy Rocky 3 and Rocky 4 very much along eighth plenty of others&#55357;&#56846;

Hector Savage wrote: »

Ah come on now ! Rocky IV is the best Rocky !!!

I must break the pair of you.

12-11-2018 12:22am

The original was one of the few movies I ever walked out of. Went to see it to kill time before a pearl jam concert in Dublin. Did nothing for me and decided to kill time elsewhere before meeting pals.

Kirby · 13-11-2018 6:45am

Deleted User wrote: »

The original was one of the few movies I ever walked out of. Went to see it to kill time before a pearl jam concert in Dublin. Did nothing for me and decided to kill time elsewhere before meeting pals.

It's 46th in the all-time list on IMDB. Voted for by the public. I realise taste is a subjective thing but most people view it as a good movie.

Why did you walk out?

Arcsurvivor · 23-11-2018 10:20pm

Don't see any reason for them do make a sequel. The story ended with a reasonable conclusion and audiences will expect a great story/lead actor.

Loafing Oaf · 16-11-2021 11:53am

Seemingly the script is finished and it focuses on this kid 20 years later

https://collider.com/gladiator-2-script-finished-ridley-scott/

But Russell Crowe is still expected to be in it, presumably as some sort of hallucination/hologram equivalent to his part in Superman...

Mr Crispy · 16-11-2021 12:46pm

I know he's still acting, but they'll hardly have Spencer Treat Clark reprise his role for this?

greenspurs · 16-11-2021 4:14pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/108602949#Comment_108602949

I did that too !!

Watched it in Liffey Valley (?) then went to PJ gig.

I didnt walk out of the movie though! I LOVED it...

Tony EH · 16-11-2021 5:15pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118173835#Comment_118173835

Scott is a busted flush at this point. His prequels to 'Alien' were two of the dumbest big budget movies I've seen in a long time and when a long way to destroying what used to be a great trilogy.

I hope that he can get his shit together to make a decent sequel to 'Gladiator', which was pretty entertaining despite being a load of old pony with regards to history. And if you're correct and it's about Lucilla's son Lucius, then we're already off to a bad start in that respect, because he died when he was about 10 or 11 years old and she, herself, was killed by Commodus.

As for Crowe being involved...ugh. That does not sound great, even if it is just a flashback or hallucination. He looks absolutely nothing like he did 20 years ago.

pixelburp · 16-11-2021 5:21pm

Guys, Ridley Scott is 83: his next feature after House of Gucci is "Kitbag", a film about Napolean & Josephine that starts shooting in Jan 2022. So realistically, it'll be 2023 and Scot will be 85 or thereabouts before Gladiator 2 can be talked of as an active production.

I know Clint Eastwood is still working into his 90s, and it's a bit morbid to speak this way; but all things being equal, I doubt this will see the light of day because Scott won't be around to work on it. Maybe. His output might be very variable of late, but can't fault his energy at his age.

Riddle101 · 16-11-2021 6:49pm

Ralph Cifaretto would have been totally excited for this.

https://youtu.be/oz81PAblkAQ

Agent Coulson · 16-11-2021 7:24pm

The need to make Gladiator vs. Braveheart I'd watch the sh1t out of that.

Loafing Oaf · 16-11-2021 9:55pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118174138#Comment_118174138

Fair chance because apparently he's

https://www.cosmopolitan.com/uk/entertainment/news/a39032/gladiator-lucius-then-and-now/

Looks like Hector hEochgain to me but the eye of the beholder I guess

silliussoddius · 16-11-2021 10:12pm

I hope that poor Cosmo "journalist" got over her conflicting emotions.

Loafing Oaf · 16-11-2021 10:17pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118176037#Comment_118176037

Well the end goes completely off the reservation in terms of real history, so I any 'sequel' would presumably have to be set in some sort of alternative historical timeline from the very start...

Gamb!t · 07-12-2021 2:18pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118176781#Comment_118176781

Maximus v Achilles Id like to see.

flasher0030 · 07-12-2021 2:54pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118284015#Comment_118284015

Maximus all day for me. Achilles has no heeling power.

Gladiator 2

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