Sopranos Mafia - Family Redefined - GAME THREAD

Jack Moore · 01-11-2018 12:56AM

8 people died today
On haloween rip
Oisin WW
Nigel WW
Orla WW
Liam WW
Desmond WW
Winifred WW
Mary WW
Ewan WW

That’s a record I’d say

Vernon WW · 01-11-2018 01:10AM

Jack Moore wrote: »

8 people died today
On haloween rip
Oisin WW
Nigel WW
Orla WW
Liam WW
Desmond WW
Winifred WW
Mary WW
Ewan WW

That’s a record I’d say

4 villagers
2 wolves
2 neutrals

not bad at all

Kill 2 more wolves tomorrow and I'll start getting the bottles ready

Barbara WW · 01-11-2018 01:24AM

Vernon WW wrote: »

I went looking at Gabriels post about barbara and then Gertrude subsequent post. I did a search for the phrase "No Lynch" on day 1.

The only people who referenced no lynch as a viable option or tried to defend their no lynch vote were Wendy, Ewan, Barbara and Liam. 3 of those are confirmed wolves. barbara ?

What's the accusation Vernon? That the wolves, who all would have opted to be keeping their identies from each other, all also agreed to run the exact same game plan and argue against a vote?

Day one (on here, right? Not COP) I struggled to really have an idea who to vote for, so I floated the question whether it was something worth talking about. Not with any level of strength or seriousness. Just wondering aloud. The idea was shot down hard and fast, and I put my vote in for Nigel to shake that tree and see what reaction I got.

Vernon WW · 01-11-2018 01:54AM

Barbara WW wrote: »

What's the accusation Vernon? That the wolves, who all would have opted to be keeping their identies from each other, all also agreed to run the exact same game plan and argue against a vote?

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When the seagulls follow the trawler, it's because they think sardines will be thrown into the sea.

Vernon WW · 01-11-2018 01:56AM

With more colours

Colouring myself in blue cause ldo

WerewolfGM wrote: »

Day 1 vote results

Lynch Candidate|No. of Votes|Votes
Frank WW|6|Derry WW, Fiona WW, Clodagh WW, Holly WW, Ewan WW, Brendan WW
Fiona WW|5|Frank WW, Desmond WW, Henry WW, Gertrude WW, Vernon WW
Ewan WW|2|Nigel WW, Oisis WW
Katie WW|2|Katie WW*, Katie WW*
No Lynch|2|Liam WW, Orla WW
Gabriel WW|1|Winifred WW
Desmond WW|1|Gabriel WW
Gertrude WW|1|Mary WW
Liam WW|1|Jake WW
Nigel WW|1|Barabra WW

* forced votes

Necrominus wrote: »

Lynch Day 2 Voting Results:

Lynch Candidate No. of Votes Votes
Fiona WW 5 Winifred WW, Holly WW, Gertrude WW, Vernon WW, Barbara WW,
Winifred WW 3 Henry WW, Liam WW, Brendan WW
Orla WW 2 Gabriel WW, Derry WW
Ewan WW 2 Katie WW, Nigel WW
Clodagh WW 2 Jake WW, Clodagh WW*
Oisin WW 2 Orla WW, Oisin WW*
No Lynch 1 Fiona WW
Gertrude WW 1 Mary WW
Liam WW 1 Desmond WW
Henry WW 1 Ewan WW

*self votes

Based on what we know, I do think Katie looks better from the day2 vote and I wouldnt have her in my top 2 to go. Perhaps safe from top3

Jake less so. In fact, as the only one on Liam on day1, it could be considered a safe harbour and an attempted clear later

Ewan is on Henry on day2 and again I think is another good safe harbour vote. Both of those votes are playing the long games votes.

therefore i think Henry and Jake are two good options for shots

Brendan WW · 01-11-2018 04:59AM

Barbara WW wrote: »

What's the accusation Vernon? That the wolves, who all would have opted to be keeping their identies from each other, all also agreed to run the exact same game plan and argue against a vote?

Day one (on here, right? Not COP) I struggled to really have an idea who to vote for, so I floated the question whether it was something worth talking about. Not with any level of strength or seriousness. Just wondering aloud. The idea was shot down hard and fast, and I put my vote in for Nigel to shake that tree and see what reaction I got.

Seems like a sensible play as a wolf to try get a no lynch considering the situation you were in and not knowing who was and wasn't on your team. So not at all surprising 3 wolves tried and a 4th may have potentially tried to get a no lynch going!

Gabriel WW · 01-11-2018 05:57AM

The twins should come out if it'll help reduce our pool of suspects.

If one half is already confirmed we can take their word on the other half. If both are unconfirmed you can confirm each other. If we've two pairs doing so we then have certain wolf in one of the pairs.

I've reread the OP on the twins. They've no actual power so I don't see a downside to them coming out.

Derry WW · 01-11-2018 08:42AM

Gabriel WW wrote: »

The twins should come out if it'll help reduce our pool of suspects.

If one half is already confirmed we can take their word on the other half. If both are unconfirmed you can confirm each other. If we've two pairs doing so we then have certain wolf in one of the pairs.

I've reread the OP on the twins. They've no actual power so I don't see a downside to them coming out.

I get what you're saying here but it might be worth waiting until after the munch to do this. I'm never a fan of giving the wolves more info than they need. Like when Holly got her 2nd shot on target I suspected she was vig but I definitely wasn't going to say it, even if the wolves could have made a good guess on that too. Keep 'em guessing.

Gabriel WW · 01-11-2018 08:49AM

Yeah, that's fair.

Derry WW · 01-11-2018 10:09AM

Ok...been having a read back and have some ideas, but for now, just look at the post counts. We're still looking for 3 wolves right?

Brendan WW 154
Katie WW 93
Barbara WW 59
Vernon WW 59

Henry WW 21
Jake WW 20
Clodagh WW 5

There has to be at least one wolf in that top bracket and I think it's most likely to be Barbara.
I think it's highly likely that Henry and Jake are the other wolves but there is always the possibility that there are two in the more active group. We definitely need strategy at the ITA today and those top 4 have the better chance of landing a shot than either Henry or Jake. So if one of Brendan, Katie, Barbara or Vernon lands a shot on Henry or Jake we can take out a wolf and confirm another villager.
If none of their shots land, well, we will likely still have 3 confirmed villagers who can take shots. I'm kind of dismissing Clodagh for the moment but we need to look at her post-ITA.

Jake WW · 01-11-2018 10:18AM

Vernon WW wrote: »

Jake less so. In fact, as the only one on Liam on day1, it could be considered a safe harbour and an attempted clear later

The narrative that most people seem to subscribe to is that the wolves didn’t know who they are. Since their was 3 wolves effectively on different teams with different motives , it’s hard to see how any of them could come out and reveal.

This also sort of explains the FBI kill mechanic because i presume an invalid wolf kill is when they pick one of themselves for a munch, the FBI gets to take up the kill. In all fairness to the Mods they made everything as clear as possible in the OP. I suppose it’s easier to figure out the mechanics then it is who is a wolf.

The first time I actually mentioned the different teams somebody (think Derry) attacked me for adding little to the village. Considering I didn’t think anybody had mentioned it at that time I thought that was a tad unfair.

The biggest reason I can see as to why I’m suspect is my amount of posts. Also I haven’t contributed much so I’m a fairly useless villager. At this stage that’s fair and as good a reason as any to be on the block. I’ve never posted as little in a game as I have this game but I wasn’t sure that I would have the time to put into it.

Oh, thanks Gabriel for giving me the heads up about the Necro sopranos link.

Derry WW · 01-11-2018 10:23AM

Jake WW wrote: »

The narrative that most people seem to subscribe to is that the wolves didn’t know who they are. Since their was 3 wolves effectively on different teams with different motives , it’s hard to see how any of them could come out and reveal.

This also sort of explains the FBI kill mechanic because i presume an invalid wolf kill is when they pick one of themselves for a munch, the FBI gets to take up the kill. In all fairness to the Mods they made everything as clear as possible in the OP. I suppose it’s easier to figure out the mechanics then it is who is a wolf.

The first time I actually mentioned the different teams somebody (think Derry) attacked me for adding little to the village. Considering I didn’t think anybody had mentioned it at that time I thought that was a tad unfair.

The biggest reason I can see as to why I’m suspect is my amount of posts. Also I haven’t contributed much so I’m a fairly useless villager. At this stage that’s fair and as good a reason as any to be on the block. I’ve never posted as little in a game as I have this game but I wasn’t sure that I would have the time to put into it.

Oh, thanks Gabriel for giving me the heads up about the Necro sopranos link.

Ah Jakey boy...I've just been reading back over your posts and I'm afraid they do smell of wolf

I didn't in fact attack you for mentioning the different wolf teams, I agreed with you somewhat. The reason I went after you was your explanation for voting for Liam. It read as shady then and still does now. You claimed you voted for people as a tactic to get them to engage more - claimed it for Liam AND Clodagh - but you never followed through on the engagement yourself.

All your posts are nice and reasonable. I'd say you're the calm wolf, handles pressure well. Maybe you'd even make a good double agent.

Gabriel WW · 01-11-2018 10:27AM

Jake WW wrote: »

Oh, thanks Gabriel for giving me the heads up about the Necro sopranos link.

No problem. And now, when you finally get around to watching it, you can have the added pleasure, any time Big Pussy is on screen of saying: "Hey, I was him once! Lasted a long time too."

Derry WW · 01-11-2018 10:29AM

I see that you've come to a similar conclusion as me Gabs

Derry WW · 01-11-2018 10:29AM

Now Henry...what secrets might you be hiding?

Derry WW · 01-11-2018 10:38AM

Could Henry be Junior? That'd make Barbara Silvio if I'm right.

Very quiet around here with 20 mins to go to the munch.

Barbara WW · 01-11-2018 10:45AM

Careful now. When I pointed out how quiet it was, I got called a wolf.

Derry WW · 01-11-2018 10:47AM

Barbara WW wrote: »

Careful now. When I pointed out how quiet it was, I got called a wolf.

Ah yes...but I'm a gun toting badass who shoots...er...villagers.

Seriously, this game is bad for my work output. Technically had the week off but needed to earn some cash. I don't deserve to get paid. Thankfully this game is anon

Jake WW · 01-11-2018 10:48AM

Derry WW wrote: »

Ah Jakey boy...I've just been reading back over your posts and I'm afraid they do smell of wolf

I didn't in fact attack you for mentioning the different wolf teams, I agreed with you somewhat. The reason I went after you was your explanation for voting for Liam. It read as shady then and still does now. You claimed you voted for people as a tactic to get them to engage more - claimed it for Liam AND Clodagh - but you never followed through on the engagement yourself.

All your posts are nice and reasonable. I'd say you're the calm wolf, handles pressure well. Maybe you'd even make a good double agent.

Why would I need to follow up on Liam? There was enough heat on him for his backroom comments.

And on clodagh , I did the same thing. Maybe I am a villager who simply didn’t put much into the game and chose easy options. Or Maybe I am a big pussy as Gabriel put it.

I don’t blame Henry or clodagh for not replying and think it would of been better if I had taken that strategy this morning. What I would suggest is they keep quiet whether good or bad cause I’m the perfect example of what happens when you are a low poster trying to engage.

Gabriel WW · 01-11-2018 10:51AM

Jake WW wrote: »

Why would I need to follow up on Liam? There was enough heat on him for his backroom comments.

And on clodagh , I did the same thing. Maybe I am a villager who simply didn’t put much into the game and chose easy options. Or Maybe I am a big pussy as Gabriel put it.

I don’t blame Henry or clodagh for not replying and think it would of been better if I had taken that strategy this morning. What I would suggest is they keep quiet whether good or bad cause I’m the perfect example of what happens when you are a low poster trying to engage.

Which 3 of the 7 unknowns do you reckon are the last wolves?

Gabriel WW · 01-11-2018 10:51AM

Gabriel WW wrote: »

Which 3 of the 7 unknowns do you reckon are the last wolves?

Actually, same question @Barbara.

Necro · 01-11-2018 11:00AM

Day 5 Begins. ITAs at 1pm unless there is a majority vote.

Lynch form is open.

Gabriel WW · 01-11-2018 11:00AM

Ha, ha!!!!

Gabriel WW · 01-11-2018 11:01AM

Vote cast. Subject to change.

Holly WW · 01-11-2018 11:02AM

Oh dear.... did the wolves target the wrong person? :pac:

Derry WW · 01-11-2018 11:03AM

Gabriel WW wrote: »

Vote cast. Subject to change.

If we hit majority vote do we get no ITA?

Necro · 01-11-2018 11:04AM

Role Clarification:

Added extra clarification regarding role, which was not laid out in origional role description in op or pms.
BodyVigs - working alongside the village to eliminate both the Sopranos and FBI forever. Bodyvig, bodyguard/vigilante, can protect one player, not the same player twice in a row, for an entire phase (lynch to lynch), or shoot a player during the ITA sessions, which will find its target automatically unless they are protected by any means. The choice to protect means the player is immune to any actions affecting them other than the lynch: kills, peeks, conversion attempts etc - whilst under protection.

Modbot is displeased with this omission and has punished the humans accordingly.

Jake WW · 01-11-2018 11:09AM

Gabriel WW wrote: »

Which 3 of the 7 unknowns do you reckon are the last wolves?

As I’ve said I haven’t been here enough to give a fair read. It’s one of the reasons I focused on game mechanics.

From a village perspective I suppose at least one of me Henry and clodagh are wolves. Barbara seems a good shout aswell and a good shout for the wolf that’s blended in. I usually make sure I’m in mid of the range post count so that’s a good bet...

Gertrude WW · 01-11-2018 11:10AM

Gg holly.

Goat worthy performance!

Derry WW · 01-11-2018 11:14AM

So in terms of today. Better to wait until 1pm and do some shooting before going for a majority lynch?

Sopranos Mafia - Family Redefined - GAME THREAD

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