Peter Casey believes Travellers should not be recognised as an ethnic minority

Redneck Culchie · 31-10-2018 11:19PM

hill16bhoy wrote: »

There's always the Niall Boylan Show on radio if you want to brush up on your barstool debating techniques.

Time Niall got his own RTE show enough BS from D4 snowflakes on scandalous wages

tayto lover · 31-10-2018 11:20PM

listermint wrote: »

Non traveller unemployed do make up a large part of the prisonor population in Ireland.

Who is it that you think is in prison?

Like none of this is new information. People with no prospects regardless of race crede ethnicity are more likely to turn to criminality.

Are you arguing against this?
Confused....

Travellers make up a much higher proportion in prison than settled people yet they are only 0.06 percent of the population and even if unemployed their numbers would be nowhere near those of settled unemployed.
Your reasoning does not compute.

listermint · 31-10-2018 11:21PM

Redneck Culchie wrote: »

Time Niall got his own RTE show enough BS from D4 snowflakes on scandalous wages

Brendan is from D4 now ?

Errrrrrr

listermint · 31-10-2018 11:22PM

tayto lover wrote: »

Travellers make up a much higher proportion in prison than settled people yet they are only 0.06 percent of the population and even if unemployed their numbers would be nowhere near those of settled unemployed.
Your reasoning does not compute.

So 90 percent of the prison population in Ireland is made up of fully employed employable people.

This is your argument?

That's what your settling on.

All those non traveller people are in there because they are vastly employable.

Spanish Eyes · 31-10-2018 11:22PM

listermint wrote: »

A memory specialist?

I don't know. Just spit balling

Ah you're gas. Appreciate the fun element, even if that might not be what you intended. :pac:

I know things can get heated here sometimes, and I am no angel, but it is just cyberspace at the end of the day. No one except ourselves is listening. That is a problem nowadays with a media that is shutting down anything we say that does not conform with the received wisdom.

But onwards and upwards.

tayto lover · 31-10-2018 11:24PM

listermint wrote: »

So 90 percent of the prison population in Ireland is made up of fully employed employable people.

This is your argument?

That's what your settling on.

All those non traveller people are in there because they are vastly employable.

You're acting the fool now.
It wasn't that hard to understand.
I'm done with you.

Jackman25 · 31-10-2018 11:24PM

listermint wrote: »

Of Course criminality is a choice.

Never said it wasn't

The choice becomes alot narrower when your options are nil.

Not exactly rocket science.

Your options are never nil. There is absolutely no excuse to rob and terrorize someone in their home and no mitigating factors. It is the act of a degenerate scumbag simple as.

listermint · 31-10-2018 11:25PM

I don't believe the media is doing that tbh.

That's a throw away term used to play the victim.

The media is amplifying more voices now than ever before in the view to being impartial

You only have to look at the BBC and the brexit debacle. Nothing in there but ultra right wing UKips and people pretend that voice is being surpressed.

It's louder than it's ever been.

listermint · 31-10-2018 11:26PM

tayto lover wrote: »

You're acting the fool now.
It wasn't that hard to understand.
I'm done with you.

No that is what your are arguing. It's what you have implied with your reasoning.

listermint · 31-10-2018 11:27PM

Jackman25 wrote: »

Your options are never nil. There is absolutely no excuse to rob and terrorize someone in their home and no mitigating factors. It is the act of a degenerate scumbag simple as.

You'd know this from being a traveller then?

Or a kid from a broken home with a junkie mother and not other parental voices to guide you

tayto lover · 31-10-2018 11:27PM

That Brendan O' Connor show is rubbish. Very poor panel. The gay traveller lad is the best of them. The two women trying to out-do each other.

listermint · 31-10-2018 11:28PM

tayto lover wrote: »

That Brendan O' Connor show is rubbish. Very poor panel. The gay traveller lad is the best of them. The two women trying to out-do each other.

Anything with Brendan in it is rubbish tbf.

He doesn't have the charisma for TV

tayto lover · 31-10-2018 11:29PM

listermint wrote: »

No that is what your are arguing. It's what you have implied with your reasoning.

You have chosen not to understand. That's your choice.
I won't be responding to you again. You're not genuine imo.

Redneck Culchie · 31-10-2018 11:30PM

tayto lover wrote: »

That Brendan O' Connor show is rubbish. Very poor panel. The gay traveller lad is the best of them. The two women trying to out-do each other.

Its unwatchable sadly. The guests are just not good enough. Far more interesting discussions on youtube

hill16bhoy · 31-10-2018 11:30PM

Jackman25 wrote: »

We have something in common so. Although possibly we don't. You say plenty, but its all the same shrill nonsense. I see you infest Twitter screaming the same rubbish too all the time. Take a break from the anger, it will do you good.

The irony of a Peter Casey supporter complaining about "people being angry", when Casey's campaign was exclusively based on anger and vilification.

I'm actually laughing at the lack of self-awareness.

I voted for a candidate whose campaign was all about tolerance, inclusion, hope and optimism - the very best qualities of Irish society. That candidate was Michael D. Higgins.

And I'm only delighted he strolled to another term, thank you.

Redneck Culchie · 31-10-2018 11:33PM

hill16bhoy wrote: »

The irony of a Peter Casey supporter complaining about "people being angry", when Casey's campaign was exclusively based on anger and vilification.

I'm actually laughing at the lack of self-awareness.

I voted for a candidate whose campaign was all about tolerance, inclusion, hope and optimism - the very best qualities of Irish society. That candidate was Michael D. Higgins.

And I'm only delighted he strolled to another term, thank you.

Are you another Shinner that abandoned ship for the winning team like Francie

listermint · 31-10-2018 11:34PM

tayto lover wrote: »

You have chosen not to understand. That's your choice.
I won't be responding to you again. You're not genuine imo.

Oh I understand alright.

You don't understand that travellers have less chance of being employed than any section of Irish society.

You don't understand that when an individual has next to zilch options of employment that criminality is he most likely outcome.

You seem to think travellers make up the entire population of prisons and refuse to accept that the rest of the prisoner population is packed with people who felt their only option was criminality.

It's almost like people think that folks like waking up in the morning feeling useless and worthless.

Like the human condition was built for that level of thought.

Have you considered having a gander over research of why people turn to criminality or is it safe to ignore all of that and just get angry with zero grasp of the causes.

Silentcorner · 31-10-2018 11:34PM

listermint wrote: »

Anything with Brendan in it is rubbish tbf.

He doesn't have the charisma for TV[/QUOTE]

I thought that was a prerequisite for a gig on RTE...Tubridy/Darcy don't exactly ooze it!

listermint · 31-10-2018 11:35PM

Silentcorner wrote: »

listermint wrote: »

Anything with Brendan in it is rubbish tbf.

He doesn't have the charisma for TV[/QUOTE]

I thought that was a prerequisite for a gig on RTE...Tubridy/Darcy don't exactly ooze it!

Rte is packed with poor choices

Spanish Eyes · 31-10-2018 11:35PM

hill16bhoy wrote: »

The irony of a Peter Casey supporter complaining about "people being angry", when Casey's campaign was exclusively based on anger and vilification.

I'm actually laughing at the lack of self-awareness.

I voted for a candidate whose campaign was all about tolerance, inclusion, hope and optimism - the very best qualities of Irish society. That candidate was Michael D. Higgins.

And I'm only delighted he strolled to another term, thank you.

MDH is history now. He just has to spend his money and gain his pensions. And spout a bit of poetry lol. He knows, we know. We don't care. We know the score.

FrancieBrady · 31-10-2018 11:37PM

Redneck Culchie wrote: »

Are you another Shinner that abandoned ship for the winning team like Francie

Your pathetic need to score points is not really helping your argument.

Long before Casey entered his rabble rousing comment, I had made my decision.

You are part of the 18% approx that found a new hero who has already said he isn't going to carry on with his anti traveller spiel.

He has gotten what he wants - notoriety, you have gotten a thread on boards. :rolleyes:

Jackman25 · 31-10-2018 11:38PM

hill16bhoy wrote: »

The irony of a Peter Casey supporter complaining about "people being angry", when Casey's campaign was exclusively based on anger and vilification.

I'm actually laughing at the lack of self-awareness.

I voted for a candidate whose campaign was all about tolerance, inclusion, hope and optimism - the very best qualities of Irish society. That candidate was Michael D. Higgins.

And I'm only delighted he strolled to another term, thank you.

I'm not in the least bit angry. Life is too short, especially for anonymous anger on the Internet.
Of all the posts in the thread your posts come across as the angriest, if not slightly unhinged and always with a tinge of nastiness or insults.

Jackman25 · 31-10-2018 11:40PM

FrancieBrady wrote: »

Your pathetic need to score points is not really helping your argument.

Long before Casey entered his rabble rousing comment, I had made my decision.

You are part of the 18% approx that found a new hero who has already said he isn't going to carry on with his anti traveller spiel.

He has gotten what he wants - notoriety, you have gotten a thread on boards. :rolleyes:

Whats the 18%?

Tipsy McSwagger · 31-10-2018 11:41PM

hill16bhoy wrote: »

Denial of Travellers' ethnicity is categorically racist.

Claiming that Jews basically live in the White House is categorically anti-semitic. Anti-semitism = racism.

Calling Leo Varadkar "an Indian" in the manner he did was categorically a racist dog whistle.

Add to that Casey's general vilification by anecdote and general vilificatory tone against Travellers and you a have a rancid cocktail of racism that would have fitted in perfectly in 1933 Germany.

A cocktail which a load of posters here seem to love and be drunk on, because these posters have a racism problem.

And if you're one of the posters who thinks I'm referring to them when I say that, I very likely am.

Jesus you have to fit the Nazis and Jews in everywhere don’t you? I’d say after you have a tommy the tank you cry out Nazis, Jews, Racism when you reach climax.

jace_da_face · 31-10-2018 11:42PM

Polygraph for Kelly. She wouldn't mind the travellers moving next door

blinding · 31-10-2018 11:42PM

listermint wrote: »

Anything with Brendan in it is rubbish tbf.

He doesn't have the charisma for TV

He hasn’t got the charisma for his own bathroom .

blinding · 31-10-2018 11:44PM

jace_da_face wrote: »

Polygraph for Kelly. She wouldn't mind the travellers moving next door

Badly needed .

Spanish Eyes · 31-10-2018 11:47PM

Sorry cannot view this.

Will anyone of them have a Traveller encampent next door or what.

That is the key.

jace_da_face · 31-10-2018 11:49PM

And cue some Kelly feminist rhetoric.

tayto lover · 31-10-2018 11:51PM

that traveller lad comes across much better than the obnoxious Collins.
He appears to be a genuine person in what he says and would make a very good spokesman for the travellers.
Who are the two women?

Peter Casey believes Travellers should not be recognised as an ethnic minority

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