Peter Casey believes Travellers should not be recognised as an ethnic minority

tayto lover · 31-10-2018 10:59PM

jace_da_face wrote: »

By my math, a traveller is 165 times more likely to go to prison than a settled person. :eek:

Or 165 times more likely to commit crime.

FrancieBrady · 31-10-2018 11:00PM

Brendan about to interview his guests.

Outrage incoming on boards.ie in 15? 20 minutes?

jace_da_face · 31-10-2018 11:01PM

tayto lover wrote: »

Or 165 times more likely to commit crime.

Well could be a lot higher. They're just better at getting off.

listermint · 31-10-2018 11:01PM

Edward M wrote: »

Ah grab a hold of yourself.
I'm not Pretending to be anything at all.
My experience of travellers has been experienced across the country.
I'm fed up of people saying that travellers aren't treated right and don't get their rights because of discrimination.
Of course there's descrimination against them, they bring it on themselves and then they play the victim and get enough people who want to put themselves out as socially aware to take the moral high ground and tell me and others that, "perhaps my narrative is part of the problem".

Socially aware is a bad thing ?

I'm confused. Am I socially aware because I can think of the reasons people do the things they do ?

****e I should studied that in College. My years of engineering were a waste.

The only place I've ever been called a bleeding heart is here.

That's gas.

When did people stop acting sound. Personally I think it was during the celtic tiger.

jace_da_face · 31-10-2018 11:02PM

tayto lover wrote: »

Or 165 times more likely to commit crime.

Well could be a lot higher. They're just better at getting off

tayto lover · 31-10-2018 11:03PM

listermint wrote: »

Well yes pretty much. If you can't get a job and people aren't willing to do business with you then criminality is the obvious outcome.

This isn't particular to travellers by the way . This can't be news to you ?

Is this news ?

So back to the original question then.
Why do they make up make up 10 percent of the male and 22 percent of the female prison population if it's not just " particular to Travellers " as you say?
Take your time now.

tayto lover · 31-10-2018 11:04PM

[A QUOTE=jace_da_face;108503932]Well could be a lot higher. They're just better at getting off.

[/QUOTE]

Who? The travellers?

Redneck Culchie · 31-10-2018 11:04PM

I believe the gun laws in this country should be relaxed especially for property owners, people in rural Ireland, farmers etc. Traveller thugs are on criminal rampage but have no fear.

At the moment I have to do with knives, a dog , a baseball bat and a hurley stick. Neighbours do have shotguns though. The travellers of course have an arsenal of weaponry that would rival the Defence Forces. We are like sitting ducks waiting to be picked off. And isolated elderly people are most vulnerable.

jace_da_face · 31-10-2018 11:04PM

tayto lover wrote: »

[A QUOTE=jace_da_face;108503932]Well could be a lot higher. They're just better at getting off.

Who? The travellers?[/QUOTE]

Yes

Spanish Eyes · 31-10-2018 11:05PM

There are so many entities of society in need of help.

You know, those who have paid in or indeed their parents have, but get nothing without a bloody good and exhausting fight.

Compare and contrast with the T cohort.

listermint · 31-10-2018 11:05PM

tayto lover wrote: »

So back to the original question then.
Why do they make up make up 10 percent of the male and 22 percent of the female prison population if it's not just " particular to Travellers " as you say?
Take your time now.

They have a higher proportion of criminality due to their lower employment prospects.

Fairly transparent tbh.

This isn't unique to travellers any group put in that bracket turn to criminality it's the same the world over.

listermint · 31-10-2018 11:06PM

Spanish Eyes wrote: »

There are so many entities of society in need of help.

You know, those who have paid in or indeed their parents have, but get nothing without a bloody good and exhausting fight.

Compare and contrast with the T cohort.

So people that paid taxes.

Like me.

Get nothing for it.

.... Riiiight

bigroad · 31-10-2018 11:07PM

I don't think Peter Casey is racist.
He is just stating the facts of what is happening today in Ireland.
Anyone that can't see that are blind to the facts.
I do hope he starts a new political party because we need it.
Too much sh1t going on in this country and nobody willing to stand up and state the obvious.

Cork Boy 53 · 31-10-2018 11:07PM

FrancieBrady wrote: »

Brendan about to interview his guests.

Outrage incoming on boards.ie in 15? 20 minutes?

Well the Casey/traveller issue is only one of three topics on tonight`s show, so depending on the running order it may be a little longer than that. But be assured there will be outrage a plenty.

tayto lover · 31-10-2018 11:08PM

listermint wrote: »

They have a higher proportion of criminality due to their power employment prospects.

Fairly transparent tbh.

This isn't unique to travellers any group put in that bracket turn to criminality it's the same the world over.

Ah come on now. You can do better.

hill16bhoy · 31-10-2018 11:09PM

tayto lover wrote: »

You can move them around all you like but they still make up 10 percent of the male and 22 percent of the female prison population.
If they were all in the same prison it would still be the same.

Can you name me a country in which marginalised ethnic groups don't make up an outsized proportion of the prison population?

Indigenous Australians, for instance, represent 28% of the overall prison population in Australia.

https://theconversation.com/three-charts-on-australias-booming-prison-population-76940

Judging by the rhetoric of Peter Casey supporters, one can safely assume that they think it's just fine to whip up racism against Indigenous Australians in the same manner they have done against Travellers.

Personally I think the similarity in the respective treatments of Indigenous Australians and Irish Travelllers in their countries is very similar.

Indigenous Australians were not even considered human beings under Australian law until 1967.

It seems there are a lot of Irish people who have a similar view of Travellers.

As Fintan O'Toole so rightly says, the threat of fascism always lurks just under the surface of society.

listermint · 31-10-2018 11:09PM

tayto lover wrote: »

Ah come on now. You can do better.

So having next to zero access to employment prospects means your are less likely to turn to criminality?

Can you try explain your reasoning?

Spanish Eyes · 31-10-2018 11:10PM

listermint wrote: »

So people that paid taxes.

Like me.

Get nothing for it.

.... Riiiight

Yet Traveller Rights Groups like Pavee Point get millions of our taxpayer money, you know our taxes, with... AFAICS nothing positive to report for all that largesse to this day.

listermint · 31-10-2018 11:11PM

bigroad wrote: »

I don't think Peter Casey is racist.
He is just stating the facts of what is happening today in Ireland.
Anyone that can't see that are blind to the facts.
I do hope he starts a new political party because we need it.
Too much sh1t going on in this country and nobody willing to stand up and state the obvious.

I hope he does too.

So he can expose his emptyness.

hill16bhoy · 31-10-2018 11:12PM

Jackman25 wrote: »

You could save yourself a lot of time if you just wrote some sort of script that would write a post on this thread every 4/5 hours, just screaming racist.

You've so little to say, yet you seem so confident in saying it.

A perfect example of the Dunning-Kruger effect.

listermint · 31-10-2018 11:12PM

Spanish Eyes wrote: »

Yet Traveller Rights Groups like Pavee Point get millions of our taxpayer money, you know our taxes, with... AFAICS nothing positive to report for all that largesse to this day.

We've been over this.

I said they should get nothing because they are useless.

We even discussed how you didn't bother reading the reply.

How have you forgotten this already. It was like half hour or so ago.

Bit of air perhaps ?

Redneck Culchie · 31-10-2018 11:12PM

Not sure I can stomach O'Connors show, strippers, tattoos? Real hot topics.

Lets listen to "Beanz" Ward make excuses and BS from Ciara Kelly with her poorly done botox

tayto lover · 31-10-2018 11:12PM

listermint wrote: »

So having next to zero access to employment prospects means your are less likely to turn to criminality?

Can you try explain your reasoning?

How come then that non traveller unemployed don't make up a higher number going by your logic?

hill16bhoy · 31-10-2018 11:15PM

Redneck Culchie wrote: »

Not sure I can stomach O'Connors show, strippers, tattoos? Real hot topics.

Lets listen to "Beanz" Ward make excuses and BS from Ciara Kelly with her poorly done botox

There's always the Niall Boylan Show on radio if you want to brush up on your barstool debating techniques.

blanch152 · 31-10-2018 11:15PM

listermint wrote: »

Well yes pretty much. If you can't get a job and people aren't willing to do business with you then criminality is the obvious outcome.

This isn't particular to travellers by the way . This can't be news to you ?

Is this news ?

Criminality is a choice. There are travellers, many of them, who don't resort to it.

Personal responsibility is the key.

listermint wrote: »

Grand.

We will return to normal service of aggravation then.

More of the same. Vroom vroom

You wouldn't be generalising, would you?

listermint · 31-10-2018 11:15PM

tayto lover wrote: »

How come then that non traveller unemployed don't make up a higher number going by your logic?

Non traveller unemployed do make up a large part of the prisonor population in Ireland.

Who is it that you think is in prison?

Like none of this is new information. People with no prospects regardless of race crede ethnicity are more likely to turn to criminality.

Are you arguing against this?
Confused....

Spanish Eyes · 31-10-2018 11:16PM

listermint wrote: »

We've been over this.

I said they should get nothing because they are useless.

We even discussed how you didn't bother reading the reply.

How have you forgotten this already. It was like half hour or so ago.

Bit of air perhaps ?

No worries. I don't have to explain anything to anyone. But maybe you feel I need to.

Who do I contact

listermint · 31-10-2018 11:17PM

blanch152 wrote: »

Criminality is a choice. There are travellers, many of them, who don't resort to it.

Personal responsibility is the key.

You wouldn't be generalising, would you?

Of Course criminality is a choice.

Never said it wasn't

The choice becomes alot narrower when your options are nil.

Not exactly rocket science.

Jackman25 · 31-10-2018 11:17PM

hill16bhoy wrote: »

You've so little to say, yet you seem so confident in saying it.

A perfect example of the Dunning-Kruger effect.

We have something in common so. Although possibly we don't. You say plenty, but its all the same shrill nonsense. I see you infest Twitter screaming the same rubbish too all the time. Take a break from the anger, it will do you good.

listermint · 31-10-2018 11:18PM

Spanish Eyes wrote: »

No worries. I don't have to explain anything to anyone. But maybe you feel I need to.

Who do I contact

A memory specialist?

I don't know. Just spit balling

Peter Casey believes Travellers should not be recognised as an ethnic minority

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