Peter Casey believes Travellers should not be recognised as an ethnic minority

tayto lover · 31-10-2018 10:23PM

listermint wrote: »

I'd go out on a limb and say...

Em people won't employ travellers because they're travellers regardless of education.

I'd say that's some crack to be easily identifiable when you open your mouth.

But sure let's continue to get outaged and target them rather than thinking about how to break that cycle.

I know some youth groups are having very good success in places in meath but it needs to spread

Or

Out rage . Rant rant .

Bad travelers booooo

Are you actually saying that they didn't commit the crimes they are in prison for?
Otherwise your response, once again, makes no sense.

Vizzy · 31-10-2018 10:25PM

listermint wrote: »

Eh....

Cork Kerry people .

Wtf are you on about . On the sauce ?

You didn't read the post that I quoted ?

WTF are you on about with sauce ?

Spanish Eyes · 31-10-2018 10:28PM

listermint wrote: »

You asked me about pavee point.i gave you an answer.

Then you changed it to me saying give them loadsa money

How anyone can keep up with your post shifting is beyond me.

Good that I am keeping you all on yer toes now!

Pavee Point has already got loadsa dough. What are the positives from the taxpayer's largesse to this organisation would you like to tell me. Since I cannot see anything from Pavee Point themselves as to the positives after years of taxpayer donations.

Nothing has changed. It has got worse though.

Someone is making money somewhere as usual by spouting soundbytes and doing damn all.

listermint · 31-10-2018 10:35PM

tayto lover wrote: »

Are you actually saying that they didn't commit the crimes they are in prison for?
Otherwise your response, once again, makes no sense.

Who said that ?

Why do you lads put words in where they don't exist.

Id imagine it's to push a narrative that you can't push without making stuff up.

Once again where did I say what you implies.

Detail please tayto your a bit light on them.

listermint · 31-10-2018 10:36PM

Spanish Eyes wrote: »

Good that I am keeping you all on yer toes now!

Pavee Point has already got loadsa dough. What are the positives from the taxpayer's largesse to this organisation would you like to tell me. Since I cannot see anything from Pavee Point themselves as to the positives after years of taxpayer donations.

Nothing has changed. It has got worse though.

Someone is making money somewhere as usual by spouting soundbytes and doing damn all.

As someone who clearly can't read

Where in the jaysus did I defend pavee point ?

Can you read ?

Will you read.... Why didn't you just read......

tayto lover · 31-10-2018 10:38PM

listermint wrote: »

Who said that ?

Why do you lads put words in where they don't exist.

Id imagine it's to push a narrative that you can't push without making stuff up.

Once again where did I say what you implies.

Detail please tayto your a bit light on them.

So you didn't even read the post you responded to???

Spanish Eyes · 31-10-2018 10:38PM

listermint wrote: »

As someone who clearly can't read

Where in the jaysus did I defend pavee point ?

Can you read ?

Will you read.... Why didn't you just read......

No need to be so insulting.

Thanks. Not necessary at all.

listermint · 31-10-2018 10:39PM

tayto lover wrote: »

So you didn't even read the post you responded to???

You said I implied Travellers didn't commit the crimes they were in jail for.

When did I say that

Go on.

listermint · 31-10-2018 10:39PM

Spanish Eyes wrote: »

No need to be so insulting.

Thanks. Not necessary at all.

Did you read the post or just jump in with two feet ?

Response please.

freshpopcorn · 31-10-2018 10:40PM

listermint wrote: »

Simple fact is travellers are not employable they can't get jobs. People don't allow them into places

My local Tesco has a traveller lady working as a cleaner for the last 14 years or so. So they can find employment.

Spanish Eyes · 31-10-2018 10:41PM

listermint wrote: »

Did you read the post or just jump in with two feet ?

Response please.

No response needed. You seem to be very upset. THANKS

hill16bhoy · 31-10-2018 10:42PM

Tipsy McSwagger wrote: »

Can you explain exactly what Casey said was racist.?

Denial of Travellers' ethnicity is categorically racist.

Claiming that Jews basically live in the White House is categorically anti-semitic. Anti-semitism = racism.

Calling Leo Varadkar "an Indian" in the manner he did was categorically a racist dog whistle.

Add to that Casey's general vilification by anecdote and general vilificatory tone against Travellers and you a have a rancid cocktail of racism that would have fitted in perfectly in 1933 Germany.

A cocktail which a load of posters here seem to love and be drunk on, because these posters have a racism problem.

And if you're one of the posters who thinks I'm referring to them when I say that, I very likely am.

listermint · 31-10-2018 10:42PM

freshpopcorn wrote: »

My local Tesco has a traveller lady working as a cleaner for the last 14 years or so. So they can find employment.

Fair play to her.

She's in the minority.

And fair play to Tesco for employing too.

listermint · 31-10-2018 10:43PM

Spanish Eyes wrote: »

No response needed. You seem to be very upset. THANKS

You keep implying I'm upset.

But it's patently untrue.

It's like all you've left is to tell lies or untruths to try get your point across

Redneck Culchie · 31-10-2018 10:44PM

dxhound2005 wrote: »

Why is Castlerea so high? It must mean that other male prisons have less than 10% travellers.

Travellers make up 0.6 per cent of the population yet account for 10 per cent of the male prisoner population and 22 per cent of the female prison population.

In Castlerea prison, in Co Roscommon, over 50 per cent of prisoners are Travellers, according to figures presented at a conference in Dublin on Friday.

Castlerea prison is for prisoners from all of Connacht, Cavan, Longford and Donegal. Lots of travellers living in these areas and committing crime in these areas

Peter Casey actually topped the poll in Longford with 37.4 %

https://www.longfordleader.ie/news/home/344910/higgins-re-elected-but-longford-voters-back-casey.html

Vizzy · 31-10-2018 10:45PM

listermint wrote: »

Fair play to her.

She's in the minority.

And fair play to Tesco for employing too.

Its part of their slogan "Every little helps"

tayto lover · 31-10-2018 10:45PM

dxhound2005 wrote: »

Why is Castlerea so high? It must mean that other male prisons have less than 10% travellers.

Travellers make up 0.6 per cent of the population yet account for 10 per cent of the male prisoner population and 22 per cent of the female prison population.

In Castlerea prison, in Co Roscommon, over 50 per cent of prisoners are Travellers, according to figures presented at a conference in Dublin on Friday.

You can move them around all you like but they still make up 10 percent of the male and 22 percent of the female prison population.
If they were all in the same prison it would still be the same.

Spanish Eyes · 31-10-2018 10:46PM

listermint wrote: »

You keep implying I'm upset.

But it's patently untrue.

It's like all you've left is to tell lies or untruths to try get your point across

Look, I have no personal issue with you. Relax.

Next week or two it will be something else.

But this issue will not go away either.

listermint · 31-10-2018 10:47PM

tayto lover wrote: »

You can move them around all you like but they still make up 10 percent of the male and 22 percent of the female prison population.
If they were all in the same prison it would still be the same.

You might say it's a vicious cycle destined to repeat itself.

If only we could talk about solutions with less hyperbole.

It may... Who knows ... Achieve some direction

listermint · 31-10-2018 10:49PM

Spanish Eyes wrote: »

Look, I have no personal issue with you. Relax.

Next week or two it will be something else.

But this issue will not go away either.

It's hard to cut hatred down I agree.

Meanwhile the people that work with traveller youth will continue to do so and hopefully they're work spreads and grows and is nurtured.

Maybe we can start breaking the cycle.

They can't do it alone . Pretending they can solves nothing.

tayto lover · 31-10-2018 10:49PM

listermint wrote: »

You said I implied Travellers didn't commit the crimes they were in jail for.

When did I say that

Go on.

Post 8320 is the post you quoted but your response doesn't make any sense so you obviously didn't even read it. It wasn't even my post. You're coming across as a bit muddled, maybe you're posting too much. You might need a wee break.

listermint · 31-10-2018 10:50PM

tayto lover wrote: »

Post 8320 is the post you quoted but your response doesn't make any sense so you obviously didn't even read it. It wasn't even my post. You're coming across as a bit muddled, maybe you're posting too much. You might need a wee break.

The post where I explained the reasons for criminality?

That one. I thought it was evident why people turn to crime.

tayto lover · 31-10-2018 10:50PM

listermint wrote: »

You might say it's a vicious cycle destined to repeat itself.

If only we could talk about solutions with less hyperbole.

It may... Who knows ... Achieve some direction

I was addressing another poster.

tayto lover · 31-10-2018 10:51PM

listermint wrote: »

The post where I explained the reasons for criminality?

That one. I thought it was evident why people turn to crime.

Nope.

listermint · 31-10-2018 10:53PM

tayto lover wrote: »

Nope.

Grand.

We will return to normal service of aggravation then.

More of the same. Vroom vroom

Jackman25 · 31-10-2018 10:55PM

hill16bhoy wrote: »

Denial of Travellers' ethnicity is categorically racist.

Claiming that Jews basically live in the White House is categorically anti-semitic. Anti-semitism = racism.

Calling Leo Varadkar "an Indian" in the manner he did was categorically a racist dog whistle.

Add to that Casey's general vilification by anecdote and general vilificatory tone against Travellers and you a have a rancid cocktail of racism that would have fitted in perfectly in 1933 Germany.

A cocktail which a load of posters here seem to love and be drunk on, because these posters have a racism problem.

And if you're one of the posters who thinks I'm referring to them when I say that, I very likely am.

You could save yourself a lot of time if you just wrote some sort of script that would write a post on this thread every 4/5 hours, just screaming racist.

tayto lover · 31-10-2018 10:57PM

listermint wrote: »

Grand.

We will return to normal service of aggravation then.

More of the same. Vroom vroom

So Traveller unemployment is the main cause of their crime? Lol.
Is that your only reason? Do you work for Pavee Point? Tee hee.

Edward M · 31-10-2018 10:57PM

listermint wrote: »

Who blamed you.

Why are you pretending your being blamed.

Your gas.

I've actual experience of them . Does your experience trump others ?

Again stop acting the victim here no one is blaming you for anything.

Ah grab a hold of yourself.
I'm not Pretending to be anything at all.
My experience of travellers has been experienced across the country.
I'm fed up of people saying that travellers aren't treated right and don't get their rights because of discrimination.
Of course there's descrimination against them, they bring it on themselves and then they play the victim and get enough people who want to put themselves out as socially aware to take the moral high ground and tell me and others that, "perhaps my narrative is part of the problem".

jace_da_face · 31-10-2018 10:58PM

By my math, a traveller is 165 times more likely to go to prison than a settled person. :eek:

listermint · 31-10-2018 10:59PM

tayto lover wrote: »

So Traveller unemployment is the main cause of their crime? Lol.
Is that your only reason? Do you work for Pavee Point? Tee hee.

Well yes pretty much. If you can't get a job and people aren't willing to do business with you then criminality is the obvious outcome.

This isn't particular to travellers by the way . This can't be news to you ?

Is this news ?

Peter Casey believes Travellers should not be recognised as an ethnic minority

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