Peter Casey believes Travellers should not be recognised as an ethnic minority

Idbatterim · 30-10-2018 06:36PM

Kennedy Embarrassed Gentlewoman wrote: »

For crying out loud, the things people deflect to the government - how about the people actually choosing to be freeloaders? They are responsible for their own decisions. If it were human nature we would all be doing it.

you think the freeloaders will change it, its in government control. Why arent they changing it?

Brendan Bendar · 30-10-2018 06:38PM

nice_guy80 wrote: »

Step # 1
Stop selling off the council housing stock

If you're in council housing you should not be able to buy the house, or afford to buy the house!

#2
Take management of these houses off the councils. They are too slow to do them up and are far too tolerant of the houses being wrecked.

#3
The tenants should be expected to do the basic maintenance on the houses - painting, servicing boiler, cleaning chimneys, cutting hedges etc

Correct and right , what it reminds me is the management is like the old days in Dublin City.

Parking was run by the Copperation(sic) the auld plaw maaws worked as the grunts operating didn’t give a fuhhrke, they got paid the same either way.

Cue in the clampers , different story, pay up or shut the fcuk up, no auld coming the auld soldier .

Housing needs the same approach where the scones on councils can’t try to pro tect their seats by being lenient to disgraceful behavior.

Independent authority with no vested interest is your man.

Not rocket science, buddy.

Redneck Culchie · 30-10-2018 06:57PM

Brendan Bendar wrote: »

Real changes. What are these?

Could you outline.…say 4 of the “Real changes” that you say we need?

1.

2.

3.

4.

you don’t want another “5 minutes “ of this Govt.

Outline your alternative

1.

Ta ta.

1. Remove the TV licence from RTE. Our taxes are funding Ray Darcy on 400k a year and Marian Finucane on 300k for a few hours radio a week and both are terrible at that. Sick and disgusting, a jobs club for no talent well connected people.

2. Time to stop the likes of Cash, Erica Fleming and foreign welfare tourists from scamming the system and taking the piss.

3. Crime . Time to eliminate traveller burglary gangs terrorizing rural areas, and people strolling round with 200 convictions. Clean up Dublin city centre while we're at it and build more prisons if necessary .

4. Housing Crisis . 8 years in charge for Fine Gael the buck stops with them . Build more houses of all descriptions and fast. Also sort out the criteria for the housing list, and stop newly arrived foreigners jumping the list ahead of Irish people on it years.

5. Immigration time to have an open and honest discussion on immigration and limits set on who comes into this country. Deport failed asylum seekers immediately and foreign criminals without citizenship. The Asylum seekers gravy train must end we are a soft touch.

6. Rural Ireland . Lets talk about what the future is. We need jobs outside Dublin. We need services . Pubs, shops, post offices, Gardai stations all closing. Under 40s all leaving for Dublin or abroad and never coming back . Is it just going to be a wasteland for people to enjoy retirement and gangs to pick off elderly farmers or is there actually going to be something done. We can't all move to Dublin, especially when there is a housing crisis there?

ThunbergsAreGo · 30-10-2018 06:57PM

Assetbacked wrote: »

That is absolutely shocking!

"The real scandal in social housing is that, in Dublin alone, 1,367 families are homeless while there are 5,000 two, three, four and even five-bedroom council-owned homes occupied by just one person.

There are a further 5,000 under-occupied - for instance, only two people in a four-bed house. This pattern is repeated across the country. It comes on top of news there are 3,600 empty State-owned homes which house nobody."

How is this not a big focus of councils and the media?! So many people living in council homes that are way bigger than they need. They should be moved to more appropriate units in order to free these homes up. It is a perfect example of dependency on the state if it is a situation where someone has been renting a council home for a long time and would feel injustice at being moved to a more appropriate alternative house.

That's a really interesting way of looking at it.

Why arent people being downsized as appropriate?

Redneck Culchie · 30-10-2018 07:05PM

Ultimate Seduction wrote: »

That last bit is strange when we are considered in "Full employment"

Anyone on any type of job scheme like Jobpath is taken off the live register and not counted even though they get the normal payments. The actual real unemployment rate is much higher.

Wanderer78 · 30-10-2018 07:08PM

Redneck Culchie wrote:

Anyone on any type of job scheme like Jobpath is taken off the live register and not counted even though they get the normal payments. The actual real unemployment rate is much higher.

Don't forget about the precarious nature of many of the jobs that have been created!

wellwhynot · 30-10-2018 07:16PM

Redneck Culchie wrote: »

Anyone on any type of job scheme like Jobpath is taken off the live register and not counted even though they get the normal payments. The actual real unemployment rate is much higher.

Also I don’t believe people on disability are included either. We have the highest amount of disability claims than anywhere in Europe.

Brendan Bendar · 30-10-2018 07:17PM

Redneck Culchie wrote: »

1. Remove the TV licence from RTE. Our taxes are funding Ray Darcy on 400k a year and Marian Finucane on 300k for a few hours radio a week and both are terrible at that. Sick and disgusting, a jobs club for no talent well connected people.

wrote:

Your opinion...many would not agree

2. Time to stop the likes of Cash, Erica Fleming and foreign welfare tourists from scamming the system and taking the piss.

wrote:

Yes agree with that

3. Crime . Time to eliminate traveller burglary gangs terrorizing rural areas, and people strolling round with 200 convictions. Clean up Dublin city centre while we're at it and build more prisons if necessary .

wrote:

We know that

4. Housing Crisis . 8 years in charge for Fine Gael the buck stops with them . Build more houses of all descriptions and fast. Also sort out the criteria for the housing list, and stop newly arrived foreigners jumping the list ahead of Irish people on it years.

wrote:

if it were that easy it would be done

5. Immigration time to have an open and honest discussion on immigration and limits set on who comes into this country. Deport failed asylum seekers immediately and foreign criminals without citizenship. The Asylum seekers gravy train must end we are a soft touch.

6. Rural Ireland . Lets talk about what the future is. We need jobs outside Dublin. We need services . Pubs, shops, post offices, Gardai stations all closing. Under 40s all leaving for Dublin or abroad and never coming back . Is it just going to be a wasteland for people to enjoy retirement and gangs to pick off elderly farmers or is there actually going to be something done. We can't all move to Dublin, especially when there is a housing crisis there?

All Mom and Apple pie stuff , kind of stuff Michael Fitzmaurice horses out on the Late Debate, we need this we need that, something must be done ..of course we do,but who is going to IMPLEMENT all this stuff, who is going to PAY for all this stuff.

Sure as fcuk the pay for nothing brigade aint gonna pay so that leaves the pay for everything get nothing cohort?

Mom and Apple pie politics get you nowhere my friend .

CrankyHaus · 30-10-2018 07:47PM

Brendan Bendar wrote: »

All Mom and Apple pie stuff , kind of stuff Michael Fitzmaurice horses out on the Late Debate, we need this we need that, something must be done ..of course we do,but who is going to IMPLEMENT all this stuff, who is going to PAY for all this stuff.

Sure as fcuk the pay for nothing brigade aint gonna pay so that leaves the pay for everything get nothing cohort?

Mom and Apple pie politics get you nowhere my friend .

What's the craic with all this "Mom and apple pie" guff? Where in Ireland are you talking like that?

nice_guy80 · 30-10-2018 07:49PM

ZeroThreat wrote: »

givyjoe wrote: »

Racism innit :rolleyes:

Fintan O'Toole has it nailed

https://www.irishtimes.com/opinion/fintan-o-toole-fascism-lurks-beneath-the-surface-of-irish-society-1.3679715?mode=sample&auth-failed=1&pw-origin=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.irishtimes.com%2Fopinion%2Ffintan-o-toole-fascism-lurks-beneath-the-surface-of-irish-society-1.3679715

Where does it mention the rampant crime in rural areas perpetuated by an ethnic minority group

hawkelady · 30-10-2018 07:58PM

I believe that the current FG /FF party are a tad hesitant in doing such acts as reducing the dole by a fiver or saying things like Casey was saying , as in, travellers need to “ stop living on other people’s land “ etc .. because they only worry about getting elected, I tricky believe that whoever starts talking like Casey and speaking up for the folks who go to work everyday , long days ! Will get voted in without breaking a sweat ... hard working folk who subliment the pj wearing folk who sit around all day in their council house contributing f all

Redneck Culchie · 30-10-2018 08:08PM

CrankyHaus wrote: »

What's the craic with all this "Mom and apple pie" guff? Where in Ireland are you talking like that?

I believe it may be a Fine Gael supporter who still buys into Leo's spin department. There is no excuse for Fine Gaels failings on housing, crime, rural Ireland, health, immigration etc.

Brendan Bendar · 30-10-2018 08:09PM

CrankyHaus wrote: »

What's the craic with all this "Mom and apple pie" guff? Where in Ireland are you talking like that?

Global expression bub.

Well known all over the world.

What slate have you been hiding under?

nice_guy80 · 30-10-2018 08:09PM

Reduce unemployment assistance (the dole) by €5 a month for 12 months. Hitting people in the pocket and their lifestyle might be enough to motivate people to find a job

The single parent allowance is a cod.
So many are cohabiting and on the fiddle

Disability? Your own doctor should not be able to certify you. It's a joke!
We've a lad playing adult club hurling with us and he's on disability! Weekly payment, housing payment.
There should be an independent medical panel which decides this disability qualification
If someone in the public sector is on long term sickness they have to attend medmark and do a thorough assessment.

iamwhoiam · 30-10-2018 08:10PM

Brendan Bendar wrote: »

Global expression bub.

Well known all over the world.

What slate have you been hiding under?

bub ??

Idbatterim · 30-10-2018 08:16PM

hawkelady wrote: »

I believe that the current FG /FF party are a tad hesitant in doing such acts as reducing the dole by a fiver or saying things like Casey was saying , as in, travellers need to “ stop living on other people’s land “ etc .. because they only worry about getting elected, I tricky believe that whoever starts talking like Casey and speaking up for the folks who go to work everyday , long days ! Will get voted in without breaking a sweat ... hard working folk who subliment the pj wearing folk who sit around all day in their council house contributing f all

AS IF anyone on welfare would vote FG! They should have done the unthinkable here this budget just go and freeze jsa and jsb (cut the welfare xmas bonus to the long term unemployed at least! let them pay for their GP visits like the rest of us, E20 a visit , still only a third what the working poor are paying)! And deduct the money for their council rent straight from welfare if they are receiving that! but even that is 'too extreme' for them, at a time they bang on about 'full employment'!

Anyway those lying incompetent morons are being found out now, they thought the economy booming again, everything will be fine and dandy! Just goes to show, money cant buy you happiness, they can have all the money in the world and they still couldnt sort out problems, because evidently the money doesnt buy them a spine!

Brendan Bendar · 30-10-2018 08:20PM

Redneck Culchie wrote: »

I believe it may be a Fine Gael supporter who still buys into Leo's spin department. There is no excuse for Fine Gaels failings on housing, crime, rural Ireland, health, immigration etc.

Only thing I buy into is reality ,bub.

You see, my friend, everyone ‘calls’ for this that and the other.

No problem with that, I could ‘call’ for a cap on diesel prices to a Euro a litre.

What chance would I have......you got it.....fuhhrke all.

Now to solve all the issues outlined by you, you say no excuses.

Now would everybody be prepared to contribute to fund the millions required to achieve this.

Would they fuhhrke.

It should be sorted out, but someone else can pay.... just like water charges.

You are fooling nobody horse.

Idbatterim · 30-10-2018 08:21PM

Brendan Bendar wrote: »

Only thing I buy into is reality ,bub.

You see, my friend, everyone ‘calls’ for this that and the other.

No problem with that, I could ‘call’ for a cap on diesel prices to a Euro a litre.

What chance would I have......you got it.....fuhhrke all.

Now to solve all the issues outlined by you, you say no excuses.

Now would everybody be prepared to contribute to fund the millions required to achieve this.

Would they fuhhrke.

It should be sorted out, but someone else can pay.... just like water charges.

You are fooling nobody horse.

what are you talking about? you think other countries are run like this banana republic, they have solutions! You make it out like we are looking for solutions to teleport man etc! Get real! :rolleyes:

Danzy · 30-10-2018 08:23PM

nice_guy80 wrote: »

Quote: givyjoe
Racism innit :rolleyes:

Fintan O'Toole has it nailed

https://www.irishtimes.com/opinion/fintan-o-toole-fascism-lurks-beneath-the-surface-of-irish-society-1.3679715?mode=sample&auth-failed=1&pw-origin=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.irishtimes.com%2Fopinion%2Ffintan-o-toole-fascism-lurks-beneath-the-surface-of-irish-society-1.3679715 /quote]

This sort of bat**** crazy stuff has made the term fascism worthless.

People are turning off from the preaching and lecturing of the Left.

Pretending everyone is a fash for **** sake.

Brendan Bendar · 30-10-2018 08:23PM

Idbatterim wrote: »

what are you talking about? you think other countries are run like this banana republic, they have solutions! You make it out like we are looking for solutions to teleport man etc! Get real! :rolleyes:

As real as it gets, bub.

Solution for housing...build more houses.

Not that simple.

Danzy · 30-10-2018 08:25PM

Idbatterim wrote: »

what are you talking about? you think other countries are run like this banana republic, they have solutions! You make it out like we are looking for solutions to teleport man etc! Get real! :rolleyes:

Things are often worse in other countries , there is a lot of self pity in saying things are awful here etc. Dr durst in de world.

Often it is just the Béal bocht.

Redneck Culchie · 30-10-2018 08:27PM

Brendan Bendar wrote: »

As real as it gets, bub.

Solution for housing...build more houses.

Not that simple.

Fine Gael don't care about building houses. Many of them own property and are landlords in Dublin. The value of their property is skyrocketing to Celtic Tiger levels. Kate O'Connell is a landlord with 8 houses.

Idbatterim · 30-10-2018 08:28PM

Brendan Bendar · 30-10-2018 08:30PM

wellwhynot wrote: »

Also I don’t believe people on disability are included either. We have the highest amount of disability claims than anywhere in Europe.

Also have the highest rate of people on welfare who have never worked, in Europe.

Something tells me we are gaming the system.

Idbatterim · 30-10-2018 08:31PM

Brendan Bendar wrote: »

As real as it gets, bub.

Solution for housing...build more houses.

Not that simple.

No? I have read many very good articles on how to solve it. Those morons in power wont act though. They should build universal public housing. They should also lower the cost of building, the vat rates etc on it are a joke, given others are getting it for free sitting on their asses! They can even do this amazing thing that they do in other countries, they have been doing it for over one hundred years, they can actually build buildings that are more than a few floors high. Amazing technology :rolleyes:

They could even change the ridiculous building regs to lower build cost, do you know what that would cost? nothing! but you are right, nothing can be done, its all so complex! Hopefully some day, some genius will work it out...

Redneck Culchie · 30-10-2018 08:32PM

Brendan Bendar wrote: »

Only thing I buy into is reality ,bub.

You see, my friend, everyone ‘calls’ for this that and the other.

No problem with that, I could ‘call’ for a cap on diesel prices to a Euro a litre.

What chance would I have......you got it.....fuhhrke all.

Now to solve all the issues outlined by you, you say no excuses.

Now would everybody be prepared to contribute to fund the millions required to achieve this.

Would they fuhhrke.

It should be sorted out, but someone else can pay.... just like water charges.

You are fooling nobody horse.

BS, excuses, whataboutery, spin.

Leo's 5 million spin department should send you an allowance.

Idbatterim · 30-10-2018 08:32PM

Brendan Bendar wrote: »

Also have the highest rate of people on welfare who have never worked, in Europe.

Something tells me we are gaming the system.

Racist!

Brendan Bendar · 30-10-2018 08:32PM

Redneck Culchie wrote: »

Fine Gael don't care about building houses. Many of them own property and are landlords in Dublin. The value of their property is skyrocketing to Celtic Tiger levels. Kate O'Connell is a landlord with 8 houses.

Just lefty rhetoric there , not worthy of genuine comment.

DChancer · 30-10-2018 08:34PM

Brendan Bendar wrote: »

Haven’t read all this O’Toole and O’Doherty stuff but it’s very simple.

People who get up early and work hard are sick of bankrolling wasters who make no effort other than game the system.

Casey said that, spot on.Got the reaction from those who were in that situation.

Paying for everything getting nothing ,watching spenks coining it as a lifestyle choice.

So simples.

Chop chop.

Casey managed to get 11 out of every hundred entitled to vote in the Presidential election to cast their vote for him.
Hardly a convincing mandate or a groundswell of popular support

wexie · 30-10-2018 08:38PM

Idbatterim wrote: »

They can even do this amazing thing that they do in other countries, they have been doing it for over one hundred years, they can actually build buildings that are more than a few floors high. Amazing technology :rolleyes:.

This is what I don't get, there's a housing crisis (predominantly in Dublin, or at least the cities), this is also where the jobs are.....

They want to turn Dublin into a world class city, with world class facilities, world class employment prospects....

Yet hold on to this ridiculously archaic no high-rise rule (what is it? max 7 floors?)

And why?

Peter Casey believes Travellers should not be recognised as an ethnic minority

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