Peter Casey believes Travellers should not be recognised as an ethnic minority

Roger Hassenforder wrote: »

Democracy always wins in a, well, fair democratic election.
Looking at some of my twitter feed, you'd swear there was a failure, by "allowing" Casey run.
(Looking at you Green Party)

I agree, it was a triumph for democracy.
A man who ventilated a contentious view was denounced and derided by the entire MSM and political establishment, yet still garnered >20% of the vote.

Thats true democracy.
People call it "populism" if they disagree with the contencious issue/canditate, when they cant come to terms with the outcome.
Its actually democracy.

What Casey achieved is remarkable and it is remarkable statement for the voters who voted for him.

He was lambasted by the media, he was ridiculed, he was labelled a racist, a bigot, a Trump character for daring to say what a hell of a lot of people see as the basic truth.

Every political party targeted him and yet he as a candidate did better than the candidate of the third biggest political party in our parliament.

Hell he spent feck all on his campaign in comparison to the winner or I bet the sinn fein candidate.

And the real kicker here is he did not come across polished, he actually often came across ill prepared and out of his depth at times.
But most importantly for a lot of people he came across as honest and brave.

Yes brave, because it took bravery to stand against every media hack, every twitter boll**ks, every political *****r that was calling him the hier apparent to Trump and the grand wizard of the KKK.

He did not back down in the face of overwhelming disparaging attacks from the media, the political elites, the "right on" lackies.

And for that he got the support of a lot of people who are equally tired of the media and the usual wheeled out lackies.

FrancieBrady wrote: »

There is no triumph in a single issue candidate only getting 20% of a 40-50% turnout. Let's knock that one on the head.

80% did not vote for him and while I disagree that the 'entire' media and political establishment denounced him, what would you expect in a country where 80% voted for the exact opposite of Casey?
There is a reason these views do not make it onto the airwaves that often...because the overwhelming majority of the population DON'T hold them.

Boll**ks and you know it well that your favourite party are scratching themselves wondering why so many of their voters decided to vote for Peter Casey rather than the new look feminist image of the party that was put forward.

Atoms for Peace wrote: »

I've only heard one politician, Ming Flanagans replacement I think, voice any kind of reasoned thought on why Casey got such a vote. ...

That is because Fitzmaurice knows damn well what is going on in his constituency.
He knows why people lock themselves in their bedrooms at night, sometimes with a gun, fearful of the sound of a bashed down door or broken window.

irishproduce wrote: »

Peter Casey spoke about looking out for those who get up early in the morning for work.
So did someone else, almost verbatim.
Leo Varadkar.

In both cases, the usual talking heads and media types came out tut tutting to condemn it and to portray it as something to be ashamed of saying.

Leo, as he usually does, chose to lead by social media/ twitter/ media consensus. He clarifieid (rowed back) that he didn't mean what it sounded like.

Peter Casey didn't. He stuck to his message and backed himself because he believed in what he was saying.

Who would you rather having leading you? Someone who bounces from one opinion to the next, has no real value or beliefs of their own from which they are willing to stand over, or someone who believes in the validity of the view they have formed and will face down the bullying media heads?

Varadkar had to row back, when FF heard his comments they took a big step to the left. But you’re right, he should have stood firm.

Watch now as FF reinvent themselves as a right wing party, same way they reinvented themselves as a Republican Party a few years ago when it suited.

Farmers 'will take law into own hands' if gardaí don’t act
Farmers warn they will take the law into their own hands if rural crime continues to go under the radar
Meeting held in response to growing number of criminal incidents targeting farmers and the wider rural community
Individuals known to use the exercising lurcher dogs as an excuse to monitor a property before a theft
'If you don’t take some sort of action, you’re going to have what happened in the west of Ireland' - farmer

https://www.independent.ie/business/farming/rural-life/farmers-will-take-law-into-own-hands-if-garda-dont-act-37472815.html

maxwell smart wrote:

It means not a slap on the wrist, not suspended sentencing, actual jail time. Investigation on the proceeds of criminal enterprise. Tax evasion investigation.

How do we pay for this? Does extending jail time actually reduce crime rates?

Redneck Culchie wrote: »

I reckon both Mary Lou and Martin will be gone after the next election. Another 5 years of Leo and FG it looks like. I don't want another 5 minutes of this government nevermind 5 years.

For any real change in this country we need change in media first I think. Sadly the only real change we've had in recent times is Journal.Ie and it's more liberal than the Irish Times. Soon enough they'll probably close the comments section like the Indo because they aren't PC enough.

Brendan Bendar wrote: »

Real changes. What are these?

Could you outline.…say 4 of the “Real changes” that you say we need?

1.

2.

3.

4.

you don’t want another “5 minutes “ of this Govt.

Outline your alternative

1.


Ta ta.

Redneck Culchie wrote: »

Also worth noting that national media like the Indo are much quicker to report on cases in Dublin courts than down the country. Probably due to convenience, think they lift stuff from the Herald. I've seen and heard of some horrific assaults, burglaries etc locally that didn't get the national attention warranted.

You seem to be having difficulty throwing up these “real changes” and alternative govt from the ones you don’t want “another five minutes of”?

Wanderer78 wrote: »

How do we pay for this? Does extending jail time actually reduce crime rates?

It reduces the rate that those in jail offend

SafeSurfer wrote: »

FF have been Fianna F the Republican Party, it’s official name since it’s foundation in 1926.

I’m aware of their history. Calling yourself something doesn’t necessarily make it true.

Danzy wrote: »

I agree but there is a chance for Casey to build something.

He would be better starting from scratch IMO.....unless he wants to go back to polling 1/2%...Renua wouldnt exactly encourage too many people to vote for him...

Sycamore Tree wrote: »

Ah stop. Fianna Fail will never reinvent themselves. They are a busted flush who only do ok on account of there not being a credible opposition in dysfunctional Irish politics.

They are certainly not going to reinvent themselves as anything resembling right wing

SafeSurfer wrote: »

So you’re saying that the 101st and 102nd anniversaries should have been celebrated with the same vigor as the centenary celebrations 2 years ago?

We should make a week of it every year and get ourselves a nice 5 day bank holiday.

John DoeReMi wrote: »

This is a country where a handful of independents can make or break a Government. A strong showing for a law and order / welfare reform party could make a real difference.

THIS! no party will every get a majority here! So having even a party with 8-10 in it could be huge, they can be kingmakers. it gets rid of the likes of those independent alliance wasters!

Its totally laughable, come the next election, we MIGHT have some non bull****ters to represent the workers of this country! Totally incredible for this banana republic!

They are all total spoofers about law and order, unless there is a large increase in the amount of prison spaces! what are they going to do otherwise? Plead with them not to commit further crimes? :rolleyes: