Making A Murderer [Netflix - Documentary Series]

Checkmate19 · 29-10-2018 08:18PM

The key could no way have been behind the press. As it would have fallen down right beside the wall. It was planted. Key can't fall out that much. Also bullet and key found on the officers watch who was involved in lawsuit. For those saying jury found him guilty. Thousands of innocent people convicted in the states. Central Park five. West Memphis three. In the USA your behind the eighth ball with a public defender as most are over worked under paid.

walshb · 29-10-2018 08:18PM

Uncharted wrote: »

Username obviously checks out if that's your take on it...

Gang mentality?? I never posted here in my life prior to this evening.

Also, to correct your utter craptalk,i referred to that poster as "trolling" simply because they openly admitted to having formed a full and whole opinion on the latest goings on in the case,despite the fact they hadn't even watched it!!!

I have not watched season II, yet!

Does this mean I cannot contribute?

Is the thread not about season 1 as well?

Mountainsandh · 29-10-2018 08:20PM

Tipsy McSwagger wrote: »

I duly await your reply of ‘well I watched the second season and changed my mind’.

I don't see what's wrong or hilarious in that. It's rather a positive imo when someone's able to change their mind on things.

Checkmate19 · 29-10-2018 08:20PM

Also alot of innocent people take plea deals as the sentences are so long if u lose. System is in favour of the prosecutors as they have more money available.

Tipsy McSwagger · 29-10-2018 08:21PM

retro:electro wrote: »

But I’ve already said I think he did it or was involved? But what’s important is I don’t think he did it in the manner he was accused of doing it. Keep up.

Also, people can change their minds!

My post from earlier today:

You’re acting like most of us here haven’t done a jot of research about this show outside of being spoon fed a documentary. There’s a way to make a point where you don’t come across like a total gobshlte you know.

I’ve already said that my personal opinion leads me to believe that Steven was involved. But my personal opinion matters not when I’m being presented with a version of events that don’t fit and evidence that is suspicious at best.
The way the prosecution state how the murder happened is what leads me to believe he should be acquitted. It simply didn’t happen that way.
Not only that, but it is a matter of fact that Brendan’s confession was coerced and unconstitutional.
If you cannot see that there are serious errors, breaches and professional misconduct here then I suggest it is you who needs to open your eyes and have a second look at what you’re being told.
After all of that and you still believe these two deserve to be in jail well then I just hope you never end up on a jury.

And from a few days ago:

I guess you weren’t as thorough in your stalking of my posts as you thought.

First off I was not stalking anyone’s posts I typed Steven into the search field because I wanted to double check on a poster who didn’t think Avery was a scumbag. I then saw your post.

Second you should know better to gang up on someone after the same thing happened to you.

walshb · 29-10-2018 08:21PM

retro:electro wrote: »

Maybe you could answer all I’ve already asked of you before you demand any answers out of me, how’s that?

You asked nothing of value/substance.

How come this and how come that. I cannot answer those questions. Nor can many others...

So, I take it your whole argument here is how they got the conviction as opposed to them getting the wrong men. That’s fair enough.

Checkmate19 · 29-10-2018 08:22PM

If people think a jury gets it right. Have a look how many convictions the innocent projects have got overturned

Mountainsandh · 29-10-2018 08:23PM

Checkmate19 wrote: »

Also alot of innocent people take plea deals as the sentences are so long if u lose. System is in favour of the prosecutors as they have more money available.

Imagine taking a plea deal when you know you're innocent. How perverted is that ?

Checkmate19 · 29-10-2018 08:24PM

If people think a jury gets it right. Have a look how many convictions the innocent projects have got overturned

Uncharted · 29-10-2018 08:24PM

walshb wrote: »

I have not watched season II, yet!

Does this mean I cannot contribute?

Is the thread not about season 1 as well?

If you are happy to be at a monumental disadvantage regarding case facts,new evidence,new police procedures,fresh revelations about witness statements and forensic science updates,then yeah...... post away.
I welcome your informed contributions.
:rolleyes:

Checkmate19 · 29-10-2018 08:24PM

It happens regularly

Checkmate19 · 29-10-2018 08:25PM

It happens regularly

Tipsy McSwagger · 29-10-2018 08:25PM

Checkmate19 wrote: »

The key could no way have been behind the press. As it would have fallen down right beside the wall. It was planted. Key can't fall out that much. Also bullet and key found on the officers watch who was involved in lawsuit. For those saying jury found him guilty. Thousands of innocent people convicted in the states. Central Park five. West Memphis three. In the USA your behind the eighth ball with a public defender as most are over worked under paid.

WM3 are guilty and admitted so in their Alford Plea.

retro:electro · 29-10-2018 08:25PM

Tipsy McSwagger wrote: »

First off I was not stalking anyone’s posts I typed Steven into the search field because I wanted to double check on a poster who didn’t think Avery was a scumbag. I then saw your post.

Second you should know better to gang up on someone after the same thing happened to you.

Asking for someone to back up their posts is not ganging up on them. Their inability to make a coherent point is not my problem. If you feel like someone is being ganged up on then report the posts and let the mods deal with it.
Also that poster landed in here insinuating we’re all brain dead morons so forgive me for not rolling out the red carpet

Mam of 4 · 29-10-2018 08:25PM

Checkmate19 wrote: »

If people think a jury gets it right. Have a look how many convictions the innocent projects have got overturned

Or watch I Am Innocent , or better yet , watch the Kahlief Browder story , and see how that poor young mans life turned out .

walshb · 29-10-2018 08:26PM

Uncharted wrote: »

If you are happy to be at a monumental disadvantage regarding case facts,new evidence,new police procedures,fresh revelations about witness statements and forensic science updates,then yeah...... post away.
I welcome your informed contributions.
:rolleyes:

So with all this such clear evidence, when are you expecting Avery’s freedom?

Checkmate19 · 29-10-2018 08:29PM

The us justice system is unfair. If your poor your up against. That's why Avery hired private. Public defenders are way overworked. Look at the one dassey got. Total moron. I think Avery is innocent. All the main evidence found after multiple search's. I don't think we will ever get a definite answer. However I think both will ever get out.

Checkmate19 · 29-10-2018 08:29PM

The us justice system is unfair. If your poor your up against. That's why Avery hired private. Public defenders are way overworked. Look at the one dassey got. Total moron. I think Avery is innocent. All the main evidence found after multiple search's. I don't think we will ever get a definite answer. However I think both will ever get out.

Uncharted · 29-10-2018 08:29PM

walshb wrote: »

So with all this such clear evidence, when are you expecting Avery’s freedom?

Probably never to be honest, due to deep seeded corruption. To answer your question in honesty,when hes older and ill,maybe when he's got 6 months left to live and the state won't have to pay him tens of millions of dollars.

It's sickening but that seems to be his future.

Checkmate19 · 29-10-2018 08:30PM

Mam of 4 wrote: »

Checkmate19 wrote: »

If people think a jury gets it right. Have a look how many convictions the innocent projects have got overturned

Or watch I Am Innocent , or better yet , watch the Kahlief Browder story , and see how that poor young mans life turned out .

Seen them any many more.

Checkmate19 · 29-10-2018 08:30PM

Mam of 4 wrote: »

Checkmate19 wrote: »

If people think a jury gets it right. Have a look how many convictions the innocent projects have got overturned

Or watch I Am Innocent , or better yet , watch the Kahlief Browder story , and see how that poor young mans life turned out .

Seen them any many more.

retro:electro · 29-10-2018 08:34PM

walshb wrote: »

You asked nothing I of value/substance.

How come this and how come that. I cannot answer those questions. Nor can many others.

Sorry I didn’t realise you struggled so much with explaining your statements. Good to know.

Mam of 4 · 29-10-2018 08:38PM

Checkmate19 wrote: »

Seen them any many more.

That's what I meant , I was agreeing with your post !
Some people are blind to the fact that there is corruption and collusion in all walks of life and in positions of authority , it's either black or white to them , no grey areas at all .

walshb · 29-10-2018 08:39PM

retro:electro wrote: »

Sorry I didn’t realise you struggled so much with explaining your statements. Good to know.

My “statements” are the ones that convicted two guilty men. No need to explain them. The court heard them and the jurors convicted...

The evidence was presented. It was heard and discussed and reasoned.

It’s straightforward stuff. Open and shut case...

The only mud here is the mud being slung from a desperate man and his defenders..

Thank god (for now) the U.S. authorities aren’t buying it..

retro:electro · 29-10-2018 08:42PM

Whenever you’re ready walshb.

retro:electro wrote: »

If you think they’re guilty then why do you think the system needs changing?

retro:electro wrote: »

Can you link us to what you’ve been reading “from both sides” that proves Brendan was involved? Thanks

RocketRaccoon · 29-10-2018 08:45PM

walshb wrote: »

My “statements” are the ones that convicted two guilty men. No need to explain them. The court heard them and the jurors convicted...

The evidence was presented. It was heard and discussed and reasoned.

It’s straightforward stuff. Open and shut case...

The only mud here is the mud being slung from a desperate man and his defenders..

Thank god (for now) the U.S. authorities aren’t buying it..

Gerry Conlon.

And will you please, for the good of this thread just go and watch the 2nd series and then discuss it. If you feel the same then that's fair enough but at least educate yourself enough to have a proper discussion.

Tipsy McSwagger · 29-10-2018 08:53PM

RocketRaccoon wrote: »

Gerry Conlon.

And will you please, for the good of this thread just go and watch the 2nd series and then discuss it. If you feel the same then that's fair enough but at least educate yourself enough to have a proper discussion.

How can you educate yourself by watching a clearly biased documentary?

walshb · 29-10-2018 08:56PM

retro:electro wrote: »

Whenever you’re ready walshb.

Does the system need changing? I said the word yes...

Well, maybe no...no system is perfect. It’s changing and evolving anyway as time goes on...yes, no, maybe. There is no definitively correct answer here..

Not sure what this has to do with anything...

Dassey...he was found guilty. He admitted his part...his confession was accepted in evidence..

RocketRaccoon · 29-10-2018 08:59PM

Tipsy McSwagger wrote: »

How can you educate yourself by watching a clearly biased documentary?

Because it is dealing in FACTS for the most part. Watch it and then make up your mind about this new evidence, both of you.

Tipsy McSwagger · 29-10-2018 09:00PM

RocketRaccoon wrote: »

Because it is dealing in FACTS for the most part. Watch it and then make up your mind about this new evidence, both of you.

For the most part?

Making A Murderer [Netflix - Documentary Series]

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