Margaret Cash steals €300 worth of clothes from Penneys and aftermath/etc!

Rechuchote · 29-10-2018 11:05AM

Jasiah Hot Talker wrote: »

Listen. I need to book an appointment with my gp almost a week in advance if I need to see him, because people are abusing the system with medical cards wasting valuable appointments for actual sick people.

Travellers have exceptionally high levels of kidney disease from sleeping rough, and type 2 diabetes from an almost complete lack of nutritional education, as well as the standard Irish diseases, such as asthma (Ireland has the fourth highest rate of asthma in the world). So these people are likely to be as sick as you.

This is why it's good to get Travellers decently housed so they can have a more stable life, and take advantage of education for their children and learn to cook and eat nutritiously.

Wheeliebin30 · 29-10-2018 11:13AM

Rechuchote wrote: »

Travellers have exceptionally high levels of kidney disease from sleeping rough, and type 2 diabetes from an almost complete lack of nutritional education, as well as the standard Irish diseases, such as asthma (Ireland has the fourth highest rate of asthma in the world). So these people are likely to be as sick as you.

This is why it's good to get Travellers decently housed so they can have a more stable life, and take advantage of education for their children and learn to cook and eat nutritiously.

Hard to house them when they keep thrashing and burning down the houses??

Damien360 · 29-10-2018 11:19AM

Rechuchote wrote: »

Travellers have exceptionally high levels of kidney disease from sleeping rough, and type 2 diabetes from an almost complete lack of nutritional education, as well as the standard Irish diseases, such as asthma (Ireland has the fourth highest rate of asthma in the world). So these people are likely to be as sick as you.

This is why it's good to get Travellers decently housed so they can have a more stable life, and take advantage of education for their children and learn to cook and eat nutritiously.

Sleeping rough ?

You have obviously never been to Longford town, Tuam, Rathkeale, Newbridge and Wexford town. Palatial mansions is the norm.

29-10-2018 12:43PM

Silent Running wrote: »

OK, apart from the obvious connection with the traveller crowd, what does "gbh" mean in their semi-literate facebook rambles.

God Bless Him/Her

Homer · 29-10-2018 12:45PM

Rechuchote wrote: »

Travellers have exceptionally high levels of kidney disease from sleeping rough, and type 2 diabetes from an almost complete lack of nutritional education, as well as the standard Irish diseases, such as asthma (Ireland has the fourth highest rate of asthma in the world). So these people are likely to be as sick as you.

This is why it's good to get Travellers decently housed so they can have a more stable life, and take advantage of education for their children and learn to cook and eat nutritiously.

Are you having a laugh??

tretorn · 29-10-2018 12:49PM

Rechuchote wrote: »

Travellers have exceptionally high levels of kidney disease from sleeping rough, and type 2 diabetes from an almost complete lack of nutritional education, as well as the standard Irish diseases, such as asthma (Ireland has the fourth highest rate of asthma in the world). So these people are likely to be as sick as you.

This is why it's good to get Travellers decently housed so they can have a more stable life, and take advantage of education for their children and learn to cook and eat nutritiously.

The problem is Tipperary County Council spent !.7 million building houses for these people to give them a stable life and guess what the travellers want stables for their horses more than they want stable housing for their children.

Jesus, the only nutritional education I got was from Sister Pauline in leaving cert Home Economics, do you expect the Government to provide personal shoppers for the travellers so they dont just buy pizza and chips. Do you want personal chefs provided too.

The Irish people are listening to this crap since 1960 and earlier, CAN WE MOVE THE HELL ALONG.

Silent Running · 29-10-2018 01:08PM

Deleted User wrote: »

God Bless Him/Her

Travellers seem to have a reputation of being religious. Now, I haven't read all of the bible, so can someone point me to the section where it says that it's OK for fit healthy young men to beat up, terrorise and rob elderley people living alone. Or the bit where it's OK to steal a working man's tools?

Claw Hammer · 29-10-2018 01:18PM

Silent Running wrote: »

Travellers seem to have a reputation of being religious. Now, I haven't read all of the bible, so can someone point me to the section where it says that it's OK for fit healthy young men to beat up, terrorise and rob elderley people living alone. Or the bit where it's OK to steal a working man's tools?

Luke 6:31 or
Matthew 7:12

Ulysses Gaze · 29-10-2018 01:36PM

Claw Hammer wrote: »

Luke 6:31 or
Matthew 7:12

More like Austin 3:16

Silent Running · 29-10-2018 01:39PM

Claw Hammer wrote: »

Luke 6:31 or
Matthew 7:12

Ah right, so they'd be happy enough if I rocked up and stole their stuff and beat up their grannies while I'm there?

Claw Hammer · 29-10-2018 01:56PM

Silent Running wrote: »

Ah right, so they'd be happy enough if I rocked up and stole their stuff and beat up their grannies while I'm there?

They know you would if you could, that is why they get in first.

Alrigghtythen · 29-10-2018 02:31PM

Claw Hammer wrote: »

They know you would if you could, that is why they get in first.

I have no interest in either robbing their possessions or their granny.

punisher5112 · 29-10-2018 02:39PM

Thou shall not steal....

Donald Trump · 29-10-2018 02:43PM

Alrigghtythen wrote: »

I have no interest in either robbing their possessions or their granny.

I tried to find the Father Ted clip of Mrs. Doyle and the other oul' wan in the cafe talking about some woman who was literally robbed

. No joy though

Ash.J.Williams · 29-10-2018 03:02PM

Rechuchote wrote: »

Travellers have exceptionally high levels of kidney disease from sleeping rough, and type 2 diabetes from an almost complete lack of nutritional education, as well as the standard Irish diseases, such as asthma (Ireland has the fourth highest rate of asthma in the world). So these people are likely to be as sick as you.

This is why it's good to get Travellers decently housed so they can have a more stable life, and take advantage of education for their children and learn to cook and eat nutritiously.

Stable life

Claw Hammer · 29-10-2018 04:30PM

Alrigghtythen wrote: »

I have no interest in either robbing their possessions or their granny.

Have travelers ever stolen your possessions or your granny?

Rechuchote · 29-10-2018 07:02PM

Wheeliebin30 wrote: »

Hard to house them when they keep thrashing and burning down the houses??

When has this happened?

Travellers have twice the infant mortality of the settled in Ireland. (This has dropped from being three times the national rate in the 1990s http://www.paveepoint.ie/wp-content/uploads/2013/11/PrimaryHealthCare05.pdf)

They have twice the rate of diabetes of the general population https://www.irishtimes.com/news/diabetes-and-metabolic-disorders-twice-as-common-among-travellers-1.694344

As for nutritional education, yes, I do think it's important to educate any community that doesn't have a family source of vital information that may save their health.

Health and the Travelling Community: http://www.irishhealth.com/article.html?id=1079

There aren't very many Travellers in Ireland: under 30,000 on the latest figures. It should be possible to help them out of their dreadful conditions of life. But these are people who have a huge level of unemployment - but who wants to give them a job, in our prejudice-free Ireland?

qo2cj1dsne8y4k · 29-10-2018 07:08PM

Claw Hammer wrote: »

Have travelers ever stolen your possessions or your granny?

My possessions yes, in a burglary while on the premises

Rechuchote · 29-10-2018 07:30PM

Jasiah Hot Talker wrote: »

My possessions yes, in a burglary while on the premises

My house was burgled twice, both by settled people according to the gardaí.

Rechuchote · 29-10-2018 07:47PM

OmegaGene wrote: »

How could the guards tell lol did they settle in for the night

Well, the gardaí said "We know who did it…"

Rechuchote · 29-10-2018 07:51PM

Jasiah Hot Talker wrote: »

My possessions yes, in a burglary while on the premises

While you were in the premises or while your possessions were in the premises, or while you, the burglars and your possessions were in the premises? Did the gardaí catch them?

punisher5112 · 29-10-2018 08:31PM

Rechuchote wrote: »

When has this happened?

Travellers have twice the infant mortality of the settled in Ireland. (This has dropped from being three times the national rate in the 1990s http://www.paveepoint.ie/wp-content/uploads/2013/11/PrimaryHealthCare05.pdf)

They have twice the rate of diabetes of the general population https://www.irishtimes.com/news/diabetes-and-metabolic-disorders-twice-as-common-among-travellers-1.694344

As for nutritional education, yes, I do think it's important to educate any community that doesn't have a family source of vital information that may save their health.

Health and the Travelling Community: http://www.irishhealth.com/article.html?id=1079

There aren't very many Travellers in Ireland: under 30,000 on the latest figures. It should be possible to help them out of their dreadful conditions of life. But these are people who have a huge level of unemployment - but who wants to give them a job, in our prejudice-free Ireland?

They burn anything that a family member was in when they die.

There were 7 possibly 8 houses in the original plot at nutgrove and when they tore them down to build the new set there was only one left standing.

They have since destroyed 2 of these newly built homes, one was rebuilt and they only went and destroyed it again.

If you don't believe me go on and drive by it would open your eyes.

Before the new houses they had a lot of land provided and they stored rubbish, burnt absolutely anything daily(tyres and other very toxic stuff)

They seem to be allowed do what they want.

qo2cj1dsne8y4k · 29-10-2018 08:54PM

Rechuchote wrote: »

While you were in the premises or while your possessions were in the premises, or while you, the burglars and your possessions were in the premises? Did the gardaí catch them?

While I was on the premises, he stood in front of me and I had a clear look at him. The Gardai knew who it was and where to find them.

Spanish Eyes · 29-10-2018 09:10PM

Rechuchote wrote: »

When has this happened?

Travellers have twice the infant mortality of the settled in Ireland. (This has dropped from being three times the national rate in the 1990s http://www.paveepoint.ie/wp-content/uploads/2013/11/PrimaryHealthCare05.pdf)

They have twice the rate of diabetes of the general population https://www.irishtimes.com/news/diabetes-and-metabolic-disorders-twice-as-common-among-travellers-1.694344

As for nutritional education, yes, I do think it's important to educate any community that doesn't have a family source of vital information that may save their health.

Health and the Travelling Community: http://www.irishhealth.com/article.html?id=1079

There aren't very many Travellers in Ireland: under 30,000 on the latest figures. It should be possible to help them out of their dreadful conditions of life. But these are people who have a huge level of unemployment - but who wants to give them a job, in our prejudice-free Ireland?

Sorry now. Travellers have separate ethnicity. They have grants by the bucketload for education, health care, integration and so on, that the so called Settled Community would give their right arms for. They have Traveller Specific Accommodation provided for them (refused without stables apparently). They have every help under the sun.

But if the community is not prepared to educate their children, or avail of all the supports available to them. I'm sorry, it should be diverted to those who would be so happy to have supports. Need I spell it out, disabled, ASD, carers, and so on.

Travellers have been given every assistance from the Public purse, but if they choose not to avail of it what can we do.

tayto lover · 29-10-2018 09:14PM

Rechuchote wrote: »

When has this happened?

Travellers have twice the infant mortality of the settled in Ireland. (This has dropped from being three times the national rate in the 1990s http://www.paveepoint.ie/wp-content/uploads/2013/11/PrimaryHealthCare05.pdf)

They have twice the rate of diabetes of the general population https://www.irishtimes.com/news/diabetes-and-metabolic-disorders-twice-as-common-among-travellers-1.694344

As for nutritional education, yes, I do think it's important to educate any community that doesn't have a family source of vital information that may save their health.

Health and the Travelling Community: http://www.irishhealth.com/article.html?id=1079

There aren't very many Travellers in Ireland: under 30,000 on the latest figures. It should be possible to help them out of their dreadful conditions of life. But these are people who have a huge level of unemployment - but who wants to give them a job, in our prejudice-free Ireland?

Forget about the health issue, that will improve. The problem is with education.
Educate people and everything else will follow.
Now what is the Travellers agency, Pavee Point ,doing about education?

29-10-2018 09:40PM

Rechuchote wrote: »

When has this happened?

Travellers have twice the infant mortality of the settled in Ireland. (This has dropped from being three times the national rate in the 1990s http://www.paveepoint.ie/wp-content/uploads/2013/11/PrimaryHealthCare05.pdf)

They have twice the rate of diabetes of the general population https://www.irishtimes.com/news/diabetes-and-metabolic-disorders-twice-as-common-among-travellers-1.694344

As for nutritional education, yes, I do think it's important to educate any community that doesn't have a family source of vital information that may save their health.

Health and the Travelling Community: http://www.irishhealth.com/article.html?id=1079

There aren't very many Travellers in Ireland: under 30,000 on the latest figures. It should be possible to help them out of their dreadful conditions of life. But these are people who have a huge level of unemployment - but who wants to give them a job, in our prejudice-free Ireland?

They have to be willing to accept that help. There is no need for them to live in squalor, uneducated, living under rules of an era long gone. And they’ve got to respect the rest of their country men.

tretorn · 29-10-2018 09:40PM

They would have high rates of infant mortality because they insist on marrying their first cousins so there would be a lot of genetic defects in that community.

In fairness though no sensible woman would marry into that community so the men wouldnt have much choice. Who wouldnt recommend their daughters not to get involved with someone who would expect them to live in a caravan and have a baby every nine months.

Conall Cernach · 29-10-2018 10:39PM

How many Travellers actually travel nowadays? Is the 30,000 figure I see quoted just the ones who travel, use halting sites etc. or does it count those who are settled? Like, I know people who would consider themselves Travellers but who have always lived in a housing estate. Their parent may have travelled but settled before the children were born. Some are grandchildren of settled Travellers but still consider themselves to be Travellers.

nice_guy80 · 30-10-2018 12:00AM

Longford has the highest % of travellers
Especially the town

Casey got a huge vote in the county

Spanish Eyes · 30-10-2018 12:03AM

nice_guy80 wrote: »

Longford has the highest % of travellers
Especially the town

Casey got a huge vote in the county

And probably the lowest property prices in all of Ireland too. Wonder why that is.

Margaret Cash steals €300 worth of clothes from Penneys and aftermath/etc!

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