So Michael D IS running again!

Plumbthedepths · 25-10-2018 7:44pm

Loafing Oaf wrote:

And it's not his wealth as such but that he moves in the world of big business where I doubt traveller issues ever crossed his radar much before he entered this race.

They probably didn't cross his radar , seems what exercised alot of people was his suggestion everyone should be treated equally. Really find it difficult to fault that concept tbh.

Plumbthedepths · 25-10-2018 7:47pm

Sam Russell wrote:

The cost of the scheme at â‚¬1.6 million was made much of - but at â‚¬255 k per four bedroom detached house would seem to be reasonable. The problem appeared to be who the tenants would be.

The cost only became an issue when these homes were being left idle because they weren't accompanied by stables and grazing land.

hotmail.com · 25-10-2018 7:58pm

It seems to vote for someone just because they attacked Travellers.

It doesn't make any sense.

Plumbthedepths · 25-10-2018 8:01pm

hotmail.com wrote:

It seems to vote for someone just because they attacked Travellers.

What attack did Casey engage in?

hotmail.com wrote:

It doesn't make any sense.

Neither does telling unturths when so easily countered.

An Ciarraioch · 25-10-2018 8:05pm

hotmail.com wrote: »

It seems to vote for someone just because they attacked Travellers.

It doesn't make any sense.

There also appears to be an element of "We don't actually want him to win, but there's no chance of that, so we can give him a protest vote" - but if the turnout is under 50% …

hotmail.com · 25-10-2018 8:09pm

Plumbthedepths wrote:

What attack did Casey engage in?

By making statements that grouped all Travellers together. It amounted to an attack.

People going to vote for him because of it. Many had never heard of him before the attack.

Most people have little or no interaction with Travellers and yet feel this attack warrants a change of mind in their voting preference.

Plumbthedepths · 25-10-2018 8:11pm

hotmail.com wrote:

People going to vote for him because of it. Many had never heard of him before the attack.

You'll have to forgive me but can you detail this attack you speak of. I've missed it.

hotmail.com · 25-10-2018 8:13pm

Plumbthedepths wrote:

You'll have to forgive me but can you detail this attack you speak of. I've missed it.

You can choose to believe whatever you like about Travellers. It's really not a concern of mine.

The point is changing your preference suddenly is a bit, well weird.

Plumbthedepths · 25-10-2018 8:17pm

hotmail.com wrote:

You can choose to believe whatever you like about Travellers. It's really not a concern of mine.

I have plenty of experience of dealing with travellers. You didn't answer my question though. Can you detail the attack you referred to?

Itssoeasy · 25-10-2018 8:28pm

I think Michael D will still win the election tomorrow but it was never going to be 70% like the paddy power poll suggested but I still think he'll win. The exit poll tomorrow night will be fun.

hotmail.com · 25-10-2018 8:33pm

Plumbthedepths wrote:

I have plenty of experience of dealing with travellers. You didn't answer my question though. Can you detail the attack you referred to?

Ah so you're another person on boards with all this Traveller experience.

Plumbthedepths · 25-10-2018 8:37pm

hotmail.com wrote:

Ah so you're another person on boards with all this Traveller experience.

My experience is varied, bit predominantly negative. Being told I would be burnt out because my then 3 year old have the audacity to sit on a traveller child's bike in all honesty was a bit ott. Also had the delightful experience of having property stolen by them twice. I have a pulse number and the court record of the perpetrators so yes some experience. Have you any?

smurgen · 25-10-2018 8:44pm

hotmail.com wrote: »

It seems to vote for someone just because they attacked Travellers.

It doesn't make any sense.

Not at all.a protest vote to tell our government to wake up and treat travellers the same as ordinary joe soaps if joe soaps broke the rules like travellers do.

Also having watched MDH the last few weeks i've only now noticed how much of an unlikeable person he is.it must literally be the fact that he's small is why people warm to him so much.challenge him on anything or question him and the mask slips.

hotmail.com · 25-10-2018 8:46pm

Plumbthedepths wrote:

My experience is varied, bit predominantly negative. Being told I would be burnt out because my then 3 year old have the audacity to sit on a traveller child's bike in all honesty was a bit ott. Also had the delightful experience of having property stolen by them twice. I have a pulse number and the court record of the perpetrators so yes some experience. Have you any?

Ah small stuff here and there. You seem to be particularly unlucky.

hotmail.com · 25-10-2018 8:48pm

smurgen wrote:

Not at all.a protest vote to tell our government to wake up and treat travellers the same as ordinary joe soaps if joe soaps broke the rules like travellers do.

Huge amounts of Travellers in prison. They are arrested and prosecuted.

Plenty of crimes go unresolved.

The issue is making statements about an entire community. That's the problem.

McMurphy · 25-10-2018 8:50pm

Loafing Oaf wrote: »

An issue in the local area maybe. I'm skeptical that a businessman who has spent much of his life in America and whose main Irish connections AFAWK are to Dublin and the Northwest would have just 'happened across' that story.

And it's not his wealth as such but that he moves in the world of big business where I doubt traveller issues ever crossed his radar much before he entered this race.

I hate to break this to you, but the no housing without stables story was headlines in pretty much every major (and not so major) media outlet for the best part of a week.

Secondly, these media outlets have online editions nowadays.

And thirdly, as someone who spent a few years abroad, part of my daily routine would be to log in to said media outlets to see what's happening back in the old country so to speak.

But lastly, are you complaining that Casey knows too much about what's happening in the real world, ala Irish current affairs of the present time?

Plumbthedepths · 25-10-2018 8:52pm

hotmail.com wrote:

Ah small stuff here and there. You seem to be particularly unlucky.

Not sure having the safety of your family threatened is small stuff tbh or having your property ( quite expensive) stolen is small stuff. As an aside you never replied to my question as to what attack you are referring to on Travellers by Casey and what experience you have of them.

hotmail.com · 25-10-2018 9:00pm

Plumbthedepths wrote:

Not sure having the safety of your family threatened is small stuff tbh or having your property ( quite expensive) stolen is small stuff. As an aside you never replied to my question as to what attack you are referring to on Travellers by Casey and what experience you have of them.

I was answering your question when I said small stuff here and there. You're attitude here makes it hard to have sympathy for you by continually asking me to describe the attack.

You can take your anger for Travellers out tomorrow by voting for Casey. Good luck with that.

Plumbthedepths · 25-10-2018 9:02pm

hotmail.com wrote:

I was answering your question when I said small stuff here and there. You're attitude here makes it hard to have sympathy for you by continually asking me to describe the attack.

I asked the question twice I believe. Apologies if it were more. You seem unable or unwilling to do so, won't ask again.

Capt'n Midnight · 25-10-2018 9:05pm

Pussyhands wrote: »

I see Gallagher was asked how many jobs he's created and he couldn't answer, but was still pushed. Then he said if he counts all the businesses using his space then it's in the thousands. LOL

A business isn't going to be made or ruined based on a flexible workspace!

It could be ruined if the building isn't fit for use and you have to go to the High Court to get it sorted. Trips to the High Court aren't quick or cheap.

https://www.independent.ie/irish-news/courts/a-firm-of-presidential-hopeful-sean-gallagher-in-legal-dispute-with-nokia-37385080.html

Capt'n Midnight · 25-10-2018 9:09pm

richiepurgas wrote: »

An exit poll tonight on that island's vote ?;)

Can't wait for the demograhic breakdowns and how people in various parts of the island voted and if there's a 25% swing.

https://www.rte.ie/news/2018/1025/1006531-islands_vote/

The smallest Donegal island, Inis Fraoigh, has just four people registered and voting was open there for just two hours from midday.

smurgen · 25-10-2018 9:52pm

hotmail.com wrote: »

Plumbthedepths wrote:

Not sure having the safety of your family threatened is small stuff tbh or having your property ( quite expensive) stolen is small stuff. As an aside you never replied to my question as to what attack you are referring to on Travellers by Casey and what experience you have of them.

I was answering your question when I said small stuff here and there. You're attitude here makes it hard to have sympathy for you by continually asking me to describe the attack.

You can take your anger for Travellers out tomorrow by voting for Casey. Good luck with that.

We'll be voting for him alright.we weren't waiting on the greenlight from yourself.

blanch152 · 25-10-2018 9:56pm

hotmail.com wrote: »

Huge amounts of Travellers in prison. They are arrested and prosecuted.

Plenty of crimes go unresolved.

The issue is making statements about an entire community. That's the problem.

What issue?

Do you agree with me that the practice of FGM by African tribes is horrific and should be condemned? Oh, wait, you can't make a statement about an entire community.

An Ciarraioch · 25-10-2018 10:06pm

blanch152 wrote: »

hotmail.com wrote: »

Huge amounts of Travellers in prison. They are arrested and prosecuted.

Plenty of crimes go unresolved.

The issue is making statements about an entire community. That's the problem.

What issue?

Do you agree with me that the practice of FGM by African tribes is horrific and should be condemned? Oh, wait, you can't make a statement about an entire community.

And given not all Africans practice FGM, you can't generalise about that, either - nor, indeed, is it exclusive to that continent.

FrancieBrady · 25-10-2018 10:29pm

blanch152 wrote: »

What issue?

Do you agree with me that the practice of FGM by African tribes is horrific and should be condemned? Oh, wait, you can't make a statement about an entire community.

Extraordinary that you would defend him by doing the same generalising yourself.

Not quite sure you understand the problem/issue tbh

Hurrache · 25-10-2018 10:32pm

A lot of public figures making a point of criticising and saying not to vote for Casey on twitter this evening. Maybe they're a bit nervous in him doing better than expected, otherwise they'd be ignoring him, just like the other candidates.

Jameswhalley · 25-10-2018 10:46pm

The question was posed last nite but did Gallagher actually setup his new businesses without state help,post-tweetgate .

I find it hard to believe knowing Gallagher's history with grants

McMurphy · 25-10-2018 10:48pm

Hurrache wrote: »

A lot of public figures making a point of criticising and saying not to vote for Casey on twitter this evening. Maybe they're a bit nervous in him doing better than expected, otherwise they'd be ignoring him, just like the other candidates.

Any names?

Danzy · 25-10-2018 10:52pm

Hurrache wrote: »

A lot of public figures making a point of criticising and saying not to vote for Casey on twitter this evening. Maybe they're a bit nervous in him doing better than expected, otherwise they'd be ignoring him, just like the other candidates.

They are only driving people to him.

FrancieBrady · 25-10-2018 10:54pm

Hurrache wrote: »

A lot of public figures making a point of criticising and saying not to vote for Casey on twitter this evening. Maybe they're a bit nervous in him doing better than expected, otherwise they'd be ignoring him, just like the other candidates.

Public figures are not allowed have a political thought/leaning?
I have seen public figures post on the 8th, Marriage ref, Brexit etc etc. Does the 'sinister' marker only apply when they don't think the same as you?

I see somebody very public calling for a vote for Freeman on my social media. Should I rush around with the censorship shovel and shut them up?

Adamcp898 · 25-10-2018 11:11pm

FrancieBrady wrote: »

I see somebody very public calling for a vote for Freeman on my social media. Should I rush around with the censorship shovel and shut them up?

Have them arrested and tried for blasphemous teachings that contradict those of PC.

25-10-2018 11:18pm

So, asked my mom yesterday about the election, & she said that she & all her friends were making sure they were going to vote for Michael D, in particular because they felt the other candidates were 'ganging up' on him!

Adamcp898 · 25-10-2018 11:35pm

I know what local Councillors across the country will be dreaming of tonight.......

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KVyr-39IhNM

Hurrache · 26-10-2018 12:03am

FrancieBrady wrote: »

Public figures are not allowed have a political thought/leaning?
I have seen public figures post on the 8th, Marriage ref, Brexit etc etc. Does the 'sinister' marker only apply when they don't think the same as you?

I see somebody very public calling for a vote for Freeman on my social media. Should I rush around with the censorship shovel and shut them up?

You really do love to get your knickers in a twist over narratives you yourself add to other people's posts don't you.

I never said anything about anything sinister, but if it makes you happy.

But if you are looking for something sinister, The Times Ireland reporting that the alt right have been mobilised to skew online polls in favour of Casey.
https://twitter.com/ellenmcoyne/status/1055585485937106944?s=19

FrancieBrady · 26-10-2018 12:15am

Hurrache wrote: »

You really do love to get your knickers in a twist over narratives you yourself add to other people's posts don't you.

I never said anything about anything sinister, but if it makes you happy.

Of course you didn't. Nothing you guys say or write, including Casey, ever has a subtext or implication does it?

Hurrache · 26-10-2018 12:23am

FrancieBrady wrote: »

Of course you didn't. Nothing you guys say or write, including Casey, ever has a subtext or implication does it?

Only if you want there to be Francie, us in the Borg haven't had a chance to assimilate you yet into our way of thinking, the only way of thinking.

FrancieBrady · 26-10-2018 12:25am

Hurrache wrote: »

Only if you want there to be Francie, us in the Borg haven't had a chance to assimilate you yet into our way of thinking, the only way of thinking.

Oh I know it wasn't designed for my way of thinking Hurrache.

hill16bhoy · 26-10-2018 12:51am

Hurrache wrote: »

You really do love to get your knickers in a twist over narratives you yourself add to other people's posts don't you.

I never said anything about anything sinister, but if it makes you happy.

But if you are looking for something sinister, The Times Ireland reporting that the alt right have been mobilised to skew online polls in favour of Casey.
https://twitter.com/ellenmcoyne/status/1055585485937106944?s=19

Casey definitely has the extremely important Incel demographic locked down, anyway.

realdanbreen · 26-10-2018 8:15am

Nice to be out on a fine brisk morning. Just cast the first of my No 1's for Casey.

Edward M · 26-10-2018 8:23am

realdanbreen wrote: »

Nice to be out on a fine brisk morning. Just cast the first of my No 1's for Casey.

Have you more than one?

VinLieger · 26-10-2018 8:26am

realdanbreen wrote: »

Nice to be out on a fine brisk morning. Just cast the first of my No 1's for Casey.

Ironic that a person hating on travellers due to their illegal actions goes ahead to boast about doing something illegal like voter fraud

DeadHand · 26-10-2018 8:38am

Off to give my number one to Casey.

Now more than ever, it’s important to support those who speak the truth.

It may be the only time we have an opportunity to protest at the ballot box against the culture of ungrateful, aggressive dependence cultivated by successive governments.

I think we’ll see something astonishing today.

B0jangles · 26-10-2018 8:43am

Imagine if Casey had decided to go postive and had said instead 'Grannies are great, we should appreciate nans more!', and the AH crowd had said 'I'm voting for him now, he's telling the truth about my grandma and I like it!', while others said 'He's lying, my nan is a wagon and I hate her!' and a third group said, 'who the hell cares what his position on the status of Grannies is? The president has no power or influence on this topic'.

Voting for someone who once said something you like, even though the role they are going for has no power to change anything about that thing is extremely silly.

Tell me how · 26-10-2018 8:45am

DeadHand wrote:

It may be the only time we have an opportunity to protest at the ballot box against the culture of ungrateful, aggressive dependence cultivated by successive governments.

We have local, national and European elections at least every 5 years.

Do you understand our political practices?

splinter65 · 26-10-2018 8:46am

Edward M wrote: »

Have you more than one?

Tipp people vote early and vote often....

Pussyhands · 26-10-2018 8:48am

I'm voting for Casey as a protest vote. He won't win. If it was a contest, I'd vote Miggledy but the only way my vote is heard is if it goes to Casey.

Lots of noise recently for Casey. I would be delighted if he got over 12.5% but I doubt he will..

gmisk · 26-10-2018 8:50am

Pussyhands wrote: »

I'm voting for Casey as a protest vote. He won't win. If it was a contest, I'd vote Miggledy but the only way my vote is heard is if it goes to Casey.

Lots of noise recently for Casey. I would be delighted if he got over 12.5% but I doubt he will..

I think he will probably now get over 12.5 there is a reason why he is clear second favourite with the bookies.
It is a contest.

Tell me how · 26-10-2018 8:54am

DeadHand wrote:

Off to give my number one to Casey.

Not true. But stick with it.

Next you can tell us how there was a queue of people at 1 station, all wearing Casey badges, you spoke to 2 old ladies at another who said they'd voted Labour all their life but have had enough of travellers coming in to our country and taking all the jobs so this time are voting for Casey. At the next one you voted at, you were able to overhear someone filling in their ballot paper were able to make out the numbers they were writing on by the sound of their pen and going by the order on the paper you are sure Casey got #1.

Beechwoodspark · 26-10-2018 8:55am

Anecdotally loads of ppl from diff backgrounds have told me they are giving Casey their number 1.

My prediction is he will be at least second in the race.

seamus · 26-10-2018 9:00am

Beechwoodspark wrote: »

Anecdotally loads of ppl from diff backgrounds have told me they are giving Casey their number 1.

My prediction is he will be at least second in the race.

Anecdotally, nobody I know from any background has said they're giving Casey their number one, except in jest.

The only people I see claiming they will are randomers online.

So Michael D IS running again!

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