After Hours Presidential Election Poll

Choochtown · 25-10-2018 10:36PM

Johnny Dogs wrote: »

Well 3 of them are entrepreneurs, I'd imagine some of them took voluntary pay cuts in their salary expectations during the start up phases of at least some of their businesses?

It's a question I don't think anyone here could honestly answer tbh
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That's not a voluntary pay-cut. If that was done it was the improve the prospects of their own companies

A voluntary pay-cut is volunteering not to be paid what is owed to you and taking a loss on your earnings.

Only one candidate has actually ever done that and he's the one being painted here as a money-grabber.

pjohnson · 25-10-2018 10:37PM

elperello wrote: »

Let's elect the rich guy.

Nah they guy that doesn't pay taxes here. He knows what Irish Taxpayers want

elperello · 25-10-2018 10:40PM

pjohnson wrote: »

Nah they guy that doesn't pay taxes here. He knows what Irish Taxpayers want

And he wants to collect the salary from us and give it to the councillors to distribute as their largesse.

What could go wrong?

McMurphy · 25-10-2018 10:42PM

Choochtown wrote: »

That's not a voluntary pay-cut.

A voluntary pay-cut is volunteering not to be paid what is owed to you and taking a loss on your earnings.

Only one candidate has actually ever done that and he's the one being painted here AZ a money-grabber

A business owner taking less of a salary than they intended is indeed a voluntary pay cut. This is pretty basic stuff.

Man sets up business, decides he'll pay himself x amount in year one, business does better/worse or exactly as expected, but decides to pay himself y amount instead, reinvesting money into the business, giving staff pay rises over himself, or just cutting his cloth in the interest of the business, either way, it's a voluntary pay cut.

Further to that, I have no idea of all 6 previous employment history in the private sector, and whether any of them ever took a voluntary pay cut in one any of these roles.

Do you?

Strange train of thought right there. ^^^^

no.8 · 25-10-2018 10:43PM

TallGlass wrote:

Gavin Duffy, doesn't want any pay for the gig.

He can afford to plus why should sway to anybody, its not about who lives on breadcrumbs, it's about who will make a president who'll do a fine job representing us at home and abroad.

Coolfresian · 25-10-2018 10:43PM

All the lads in the gym are voting casey :-D get out and vote 2moro, grab some undecideds and get the vote out for Casey. Middle Ireland will have its say!

SafeSurfer · 25-10-2018 10:44PM

Choochtown wrote: »

A pay cut at any time in any of their jobs

Michael D being painted here as a money-grabber but he's the only one who has ever taken a voluntary pay-cut

Joan Freeman donated her senate salary to charity.

How much of s reduction in the €250,000 salary did he take. Would it not be possible for him to make up the difference through the €317,000 unvouched allowance?

no.8 · 25-10-2018 10:44PM

fergus1001 wrote:

furthermore he is going to be 84 IF he makes it through the next 7 years

IF could be inferred on anyone for that matter. Yes he's quite elderly but so what, if worse came to worse and he was too I'll to take office, then he could be replaced.

enricoh · 25-10-2018 10:45PM

elperello wrote: »

And he wants to collect the salary from us and give it to the councillors to distribute as their largesse.

What could go wrong?

Ah well, at least there's no fear of mickey d's salary going to the wrong cause! Best not to risk it, eh?!

haley79 · 25-10-2018 10:45PM

Rubberchikken wrote: »

Are we so pathetic that we'd expect our president to sleep in some cheap place to save the country money?

He's our president and as such should be able to booked into something other than a hostel.

This type of nitpicking by the other candidates or their followers is a sign of how little they have to offer voters.

#notmypresident

Silentcorner · 25-10-2018 10:47PM

Johnny Dogs wrote: »

A business owner taking less of a salary than they intended is indeed a voluntary pay cut. This is pretty basic stuff.

Man sets up business, decides he'll pay himself x amount in year one, business does better/worse or exactly as expected, but decides to pay himself y amount instead, reinvesting money into the business, giving staff pay rises over himself, or just cutting his cloth in the interest of the business, either way, it's a voluntary pay cut.

Further to that, I have no idea of all 6 previous employment history in the private sector, and whether any of them ever took a voluntary pay cut in one any of these roles.

Do you?

Strange train of thought right there. ^^^^

What sickens my you know what is how MDH probably believes he is worth/entitled to the massive salary, expenses and pensions, you know for his public service.

Public service is where a person eschews a lucrative career in the private sector to serve the public for much less money.

What kind of money would MDH be worth in the private sector? Remember, he claims to be a poet, his work could be priceless, or worthless, the latter I'll bet!

FrancieBrady · 25-10-2018 10:48PM

fergus1001 wrote: »

his words aren't worth a sh1te, if he stood down like he was supposed to we would have proper candidates running not this **** show we have now

No guarantee of that.

haley79 · 25-10-2018 10:48PM

JupiterKid wrote: »

Voting tomorrow morning on my way to work. Giving Mickey D and Ni Riada my No 1 and 2 respectively. The others can go jump.

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elperello · 25-10-2018 10:48PM

Johnny Dogs wrote: »

A business owner taking less of a salary than they intended is indeed a voluntary pay cut. This is pretty basic stuff.

Man sets up business, decides he'll pay himself x amount in year one, business does better/worse or exactly as expected, but decides to pay himself y amount instead, reinvesting money into the business, giving staff pay rises over himself, or just cutting his cloth in the interest of the business, either way, it's a voluntary pay cut.

Further to that, I have no idea of all 6 previous employment history in the private sector, and whether any of them ever took a voluntary pay cut in one any of these roles.

Do you?

Strange train of thought right there. ^^^^

If a business is not generating enough profit to pay the owner the wage he wants then he has to take less. Not really voluntary.

Voluntary is more when the money is there for you and you don't take it.

AndrewJRenko · 25-10-2018 10:48PM

TallGlass wrote: »

Gavin Duffy, doesn't want any pay for the gig.

More fiction.

https://www.irishexaminer.com/breakingnews/ireland/gavin-duffy-ill-keep-all-aras-salary-to-recoup-election-costs-860192.html

fergus1001 wrote: »

MDH promised he was a one term president

his words aren't worth a sh1te, if he stood down like he was supposed to we would have proper candidates running not this **** show we have now

Aw, so unfair - imagine running a good candidate in an election race! Any proper candidates could have run this time round. If they were proper candidates, they'd surely be able to give MDH a run for his money, unlike any of the current five chancers, right?

SafeSurfer wrote: »

Would it not be possible for him to make up the difference through the €317,000 unvouched allowance?

No, because an allowance to spend on running events is not salary.

statesaver · 25-10-2018 10:49PM

Was hoping Casey would get to 1000 votes in this poll before tomorrow.

He’s my number 1.

McMurphy · 25-10-2018 10:52PM

elperello wrote: »

If a business is not generating enough profit to pay the owner the wage he wants then he has to take less. Not really voluntary.

Voluntary is more when the money is there for you and you don't take it.

Let me know what part of this didn't sink in and we'll run through it together.

decides he'll pay himself x amount in year one, business does better/worse or exactly as expected, but decides to pay himself y amount instead, reinvesting money into the business, giving staff pay rises over himself, or just cutting his cloth in the interest of the business, either way, it's a voluntary pay cut.

Are you only reading what you want to see:D?

q85dw7osi4lebg · 25-10-2018 11:01PM

#francieneedsawoman

AndrewJRenko · 25-10-2018 11:02PM

Silentcorner wrote: »

Public service is where a person eschews a lucrative career in the private sector to serve the public for much less money.

Where did you get this definition from? I know about 300,000 who would disagree with you.

AndrewJRenko · 25-10-2018 11:03PM

haley79 wrote: »

#notmypresident

#nottrue

splashuum · 25-10-2018 11:03PM

Does anyone think MDH will get over 50% tomorrow?

haley79 · 25-10-2018 11:03PM

statesaver wrote: »

Was hoping Casey would get to 1000 votes in this poll before tomorrow.

He’s my number 1.

the mods shut it down

haley79 · 25-10-2018 11:05PM

splashuum wrote: »

Does anyone think MDH will get over 50% tomorrow?

why should anyone waste a fiver of petrol to go and vote for him
he should f off

elperello · 25-10-2018 11:05PM

Johnny Dogs wrote: »

Let me know what part of this didn't sink in and we'll run through it together.

Are you only reading what you want to see:D?

OK lets see.

If a businessman decides to reinvest in the business or pay someone more he is doing that to make more money himself eventually. Unless of course he is doing it altruistically.

On the other hand someone who is on a salary and forgoes a portion loses the money.

Silentcorner · 25-10-2018 11:06PM

AndrewJRenko wrote: »

Where did you get this definition from? I know about 300,000 who would disagree with you.

I should have stated clearly, I was referring to our politicians who often refer to their distinguished careers in public service, (Micheal mentioned how proud he was of his 50 years of service) most of whom are school teachers or small town auctioneers, as public service.

SafeSurfer · 25-10-2018 11:06PM

AndrewJRenko wrote: »

More fiction.

https://www.irishexaminer.com/breakingnews/ireland/gavin-duffy-ill-keep-all-aras-salary-to-recoup-election-costs-860192.html

Aw, so unfair - imagine running a good candidate in an election race! Any proper candidates could have run this time round. If they were proper candidates, they'd surely be able to give MDH a run for his money, unlike any of the current five chancers, right?

No, because an allowance to spend on running events is not salary.

The €317,000 is discretionary, unvouched, unaudited spending. You don’t know, nor do I if that money was used to buy his third investment property in Galway because this information won’t be released until after we vote.

AndrewJRenko · 25-10-2018 11:08PM

haley79 wrote: »

why should anyone waste a fiver of petrol to go and vote for him

Maybe because they want to have a President who has a clue about what a President does.

haley79 · 25-10-2018 11:10PM

AndrewJRenko wrote: »

Maybe because they want to have a President who has a clue about what a President does.

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AndrewJRenko · 25-10-2018 11:10PM

SafeSurfer wrote: »

The €317,000 is discretionary, unvouched, unaudited spending. You don’t know, nor do I if that money was used to buy his third investment property in Galway because this information won’t be released until after we vote.

Both you and I know well that the money was not used to buy any property, anywhere.

But I presume you're equally concerned that McAleese wasn't off on a property spree at the State's expense, because the same rules applied to her.

elperello · 25-10-2018 11:12PM

AndrewJRenko wrote: »

Maybe because they want to have a President who has a clue about what a President does.

Anyway all those lefty snowflakes walk or cycle.
They will probably spend the fiver on a skinny latte

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