Did the British ever stop seeing us as inferior?

steddyeddy · 25-10-2018 08:45PM #1

And what will they be like post-Brexit?

I live in the Uk at the moment and everytime there's a Brexit debate on TV there's misinformation or even animosity towards Ireland. Paddy should fall in line and not cause trouble seems to be the attitude. Boris' dad, Stanley and the rest of the upper classes seem tohave the idea that our history, future or well being is meaningless. There's educated people who think that they're entitled to an Irish passport if they're English, there's people who think the troubles consisted of the IRA alone causing trouble, I've surprised people by telling them that there's two communities in Northern Ireland, British and Irish.

In brief the whole Brexit fiasco has revealed one thing; British people generally don't know anything about the history between the Irish and the English and don't seem to care about the future relationship between our islands.

Below is Boris' equally priviliged Dad saying let the Irish shoot each other.
https://inews.co.uk/news/brexit/stanley-johnson-irish-will-shoot-each-other-brexit-news-gmb/

Skylinehead · 25-10-2018 08:50PM

Yes.

Next question.

steddyeddy · 25-10-2018 08:52PM

Nixonbot wrote: »

Yes.

Next question.

I'm not so sure considering the British government are sacrificing peace in Northern Ireland.

25-10-2018 08:53PM

steddyeddy wrote: »

I'm not so sure considering the British government are sacrificing peace in Northern Ireland.

Here we go again.

Duffy the Vampire Slayer · 25-10-2018 08:54PM

They did a bit but the Brits have never changed their attitude or fixed their ignorance.

steddyeddy · 25-10-2018 08:55PM

Aegir wrote: »

Here we go again.

I'm afraid polls show that Brexiters would sacrifice peace in Northern Ireland.

https://www.rte.ie/news/player/2018/1009/21444960-brexiteers-in-northern-ireland-willing-to-sacrifice-peace-process-survey/

buried · 25-10-2018 08:56PM

If everybody killed their television, kept that f**king demented divisive $hitnoisebox totally killed and then got on with what they actually know and what they enjoy themselves on their own volition, the likes of ready brexxxit wouldn't have even happened the first place.

SEPT 23 1989 · 25-10-2018 08:57PM

Nobody over 40 would ask that question

25-10-2018 08:58PM

steddyeddy wrote: »

I'm afraid polls show that Brexiters would sacrifice peace in Northern Ireland.

https://www.rte.ie/news/player/2018/1009/21444960-brexiteers-in-northern-ireland-willing-to-sacrifice-peace-process-survey/

Brexiteers in Northern Ireland you mean. Let’s not be overly dramatic.

Allinall · 25-10-2018 09:00PM

steddyeddy wrote: »

I'm not so sure considering the British government are sacrificing peace in Northern Ireland.

The only ones that will sacrifice peace in Northern Ireland are the thugs that might start shooting and bombing again.

steddyeddy · 25-10-2018 09:00PM

Deleted User wrote: »

Undoubtedly, have you seen any 'No Irish need apply' signs recently?

No, but as an Irish man over here I've been asked "whose side are you on" and jokes about the the borders and "paddies" causing trouble have been more common.

steddyeddy · 25-10-2018 09:01PM

Allinall wrote: »

The only ones that will sacrifice peace in Northern Ireland are the thugs that might start shooting and bombing again.

And the ones who break international treaties which were designed to stop the killing. A treaty which respected both sides.

ytpe2r5bxkn0c1 · 25-10-2018 09:02PM

steddyeddy wrote: »

I'm not so sure considering the British government are sacrificing peace in Northern Ireland.

No they're not. It's much more likely that republicans will be the one's putting pressure on the peace process.

steddyeddy · 25-10-2018 09:03PM

Kolton Odd Workaholic wrote: »

No they're not. It's much more likely that republicans will be the one's putting pressure on the peace process.

With all due respect that's stupid. They're sacrificing the Good Friday Agreement for an anti-EU ideology.

Skylinehead · 25-10-2018 09:06PM

steddyeddy wrote: »

I'm not so sure considering the British government are sacrificing peace in Northern Ireland.

So, you're not so sure relations have improved since the "No blacks no Irish" signs, the Troubles, the War of Independence, the Famine, the Penal Laws, the Plantations, Cromwell, and them colonising us in the first place.

Right. :rolleyes:

What a stupid question.

pleas advice · 25-10-2018 09:07PM

shur didn't they come over here centuries ago and become more Irish than the Irish themselves, and then there was the crowd in the north-east who became more British than the British themselves in the last couple hundred years, just to return the favour

eorpach · 25-10-2018 09:08PM

Aegir wrote: »

Brexiteers in Northern Ireland you mean. Let’s not be overly dramatic.

Not so. A study by the universitities of Edinburgh and Cardiff showed that Leave voters in England and Wales would, in unprecedented numbers, ditch Northern Ireland to achieve Brexit:

http://www.cardiff.ac.uk/news/view/1319722-mays-precious-union-has-little-support-in-brexit-britain

buried · 25-10-2018 09:08PM

Going to good gigs and good record shops over in Landaahn town the last year has greatly improved the Anglo-Irish relationship for me anyways, sterling damn near on par with the yoyo and good priced hotel rooms in a large metropolis with a good transport system? I fail to see the downside in all this ready brexit lark in fairness

steddyeddy · 25-10-2018 09:12PM

Nixonbot wrote: »

So, you're not so sure relations have improved since the "No blacks no Irish" signs, the Troubles, the War of Independence, the Famine, the Penal Laws, the Plantations, Cromwell, and them colonising us in the first place.

Right. :rolleyes:

What a stupid question.

You sound young but there's no need for a response like that. I'm asking a question. I'm living in a country that's becoming increasingly anti-Irish in terms of sentiment and actions. Prehaps I should have asked havr atttudes really changed towards the Irish.

Allinall · 25-10-2018 09:13PM

steddyeddy wrote: »

You sound young but there's no need for a response like that. I'm asking a question. I'm living in a country that's becoming increasingly anti-Irish in terms of sentiment and actions. Prehaps I should have asked havr atttudes really changed towards the Irish.

Perhaps you shouldn’t be living with people you fell so bitter towards.

Franz Von Peppercorn · 25-10-2018 09:17PM

pleas advice wrote: »

shur didn't they come over here centuries ago and become more Irish than the Irish themselves, and then there was the crowd in the north-east who became more British than the British themselves in the last couple hundred years, just to return the favour

The latter were always british, the former were French.

Yamanoto · 25-10-2018 09:19PM

If Stanley Johnson said it, we had better take it seriously.

hatrickpatrick · 25-10-2018 09:23PM

Anglo-Irish relationships? Well personally, a woman speaking to me in an English accent turns me into a pining puppy 😍

25-10-2018 09:29PM

steddyeddy wrote: »

With all due respect that's stupid. They're sacrificing the Good Friday Agreement for an anti-EU ideology.

No one is sacrificing the Good Friday agreement though.

25-10-2018 09:30PM

steddyeddy wrote: »

And the ones who break international treaties which were designed to stop the killing. A treaty which respected both sides.

What treaty has been broken?

Skylinehead · 25-10-2018 09:35PM

steddyeddy wrote: »

You sound young but there's no need for a response like that. I'm asking a question. I'm living in a country that's becoming increasingly anti-Irish in terms of sentiment and actions. Prehaps I should have asked havr atttudes really changed towards the Irish.

I've actually had relatives interned for no reason in the 70s. So yes, they're MUCH better.

Feisar · 25-10-2018 09:52PM

steddyeddy wrote: »

Below is Boris' equally priviliged Dad saying let the Irish shoot each other.
https://inews.co.uk/news/brexit/stanley-johnson-irish-will-shoot-each-other-brexit-news-gmb/

You have to feel sorry for the Unionists, the think the are British, the mainlanders think they are Irish.

25-10-2018 10:01PM

I think part of the problem is their media. Irish media covers some UK government developments so we're more aware of whats happening, even before Brexit came along.

British media covers very little Irish Goverment developments, they probably think its not important enough to them, and if they do cover something its usually to take a dig at us.

steddyeddy · 25-10-2018 10:35PM

Nixonbot wrote: »

I've actually had relatives interned for no reason in the 70s. So yes, they're MUCH better.

My uncle led the Civil rights movement in the North. In his words British attitudes towards the Irish haven't changed as evident by Brexit.

Skylinehead · 25-10-2018 10:40PM

steddyeddy wrote: »

My uncle led the Civil rights movement in the North. In his words British attitudes towards the Irish haven't changed as evident by Brexit.

You asked if British-Irish relations have improved since unspecified period. Since Brexit, obviously not, since the Troubles? Blatantly, the answer is yes.

steddyeddy · 26-10-2018 06:18PM

Title changed!

Did the British ever stop seeing us as inferior?

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