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Bedding alternatives to Straw.

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  • #92
    Odelay
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    Base price wrote: »
    Too dusty for horses which could cause breathing difficulties.

    Only seen it in use last year under horses and it turns to sloop under them for whatever reason. These horses would have been cleaned out three times a day but the peat was hard work and hard to keep animals clean. Maybe better suited to cattle.


  • #93
    bogman_bass
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    What’s the spray that can’t be used on rape that is going to be used for bedding?


  • #94
    Brown Podzol
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    ASTROkerb


  • #95
    Base price
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    bogman_bass wrote: »
    What’s the spray that can’t be used on rape that is going to be used for bedding?
    Astrokerb

    See - https://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showpost.php?p=107935422&postcount=287


  • #96
    bogman_bass
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    Thanks all. Was offered a few bales tonight and wanted to ask before I took them


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  • #97
    YFlyer
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    Reggie. wrote: »
    Why is he afraid of peat?

    Peat is a carbon sink.


  • #98
    YFlyer
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    Odelay wrote: »
    Only seen it in use last year under horses and it turns to sloop under them for whatever reason. These horses would have been cleaned out three times a day but the peat was hard work and hard to keep animals clean. Maybe better suited to cattle.

    The urine would release the organic matterfrom the peat and would blacken the animals.


  • #99
    blue5000
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    I bought a 35m3 load of woodchip for 15 finishing bulls, one of them picked up a piece of it in between the claws of a front foot, but he's ok again.

    It's not cheap, but it saves the hassle of bedding them with straw:p and they're eating a bale of straw in a ring feeder at the back of the pen.

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    If the seat's wet, sit on yer hat, a cool head is better than a wet ar5e.



  • #100
    Buford T. Justice XIX
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    I was quoted €600 roughly for 30 cubic metres of coarse peat delivered and unloaded by conveyer, if anyone is wondering the price.


  • #101
    tanko
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    Has the price of straw dropped lately??


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  • #102
    whelan2
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    Does anyone use shredded paper for bedding?


  • #103
    Reggie.
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    Nice bedded shed for the BIL


  • #104
    Odelay
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    whelan2 wrote: »
    Does anyone use shredded paper for bedding?

    Did years ago. It soaks up and never dries out, a constant soggy bed.


  • #105
    whelan2
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    Odelay wrote: »
    Did years ago. It soaks up and never dries out, a constant soggy bed.

    How do you dispose of it


  • #106
    blue5000
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    Reggie. wrote: »
    Nice bedded shed for the BIL

    So yer sister has moved him out for the winter then:confused::pac:

    If the seat's wet, sit on yer hat, a cool head is better than a wet ar5e.



  • #107
    tellmeabit
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    What do folks use for out door uncovered bedding or is this done? Have old dung stead with concrete base was wondering if I could make use of it rather than the old cow shed. At least I'd have the tractor to do the movong if silage rather than the wheel barrow . Suppose I could have silage outside and allow access to cow shed to lay down.


  • #108
    Mooooo
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    Uncovered outdoor bedding would be normally be woodchip, works rel well. Must have space in the slurry tank for the extra water collected tho which can be an issue if a very wet winter


  • #109
    visatorro
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    Opened bale of rape four springers, they are sitting on it anyway! See how it goes after that!


  • #110
    Icelandicseige
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    Mooooo wrote: »
    Uncovered outdoor bedding would be normally be woodchip, works rel well. Must have space in the slurry tank for the extra water collected tho which can be an issue if a very wet winter

    Is it possible to have stock standing on slats while eating but then heading back to an open area that has woodchip??

    Edit to say the woodchip area would be sloping into slats and also would say Dry cows be happy on it during winter.??


  • #111
    148multi
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    tellmeabit wrote: »
    What do folks use for out door uncovered bedding or is this done? Have old dung stead with concrete base was wondering if I could make use of it rather than the old cow shed. At least I'd have the tractor to do the movong if silage rather than the wheel barrow . Suppose I could have silage outside and allow access to cow shed to lay down.
    Used butt chip for years, brilliant, layed down a foot, and half way through the winter cleaned off 6 inches, never seen cows so happy. Try and find butt /wood chip as big as possible.


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  • #112
    Odelay
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    whelan2 wrote: »
    How do you dispose of it

    I think it was left in a corner for years.

    When down fresh it was a lovely bed, you'd sleep in it yourself. However quickly turned sodden and when topping it up the fresh stuff was sodden in no time. That was my experience of it.


  • #113
    Odelay
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    148multi wrote: »
    Used butt chip for years, brilliant, layed down a foot, and half way through the winter cleaned off 6 inches, never seen cows so happy. Try and find butt /wood chip as big as possible.

    Butt chip is usually cheaper from mills too.


  • #114
    Bleating Lamb
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    tanko wrote: »
    Has the price of straw dropped lately??
    If anything it’s going up in price!!!.....local haulier is getting an odd load of small bales of straw....€4:50 a bale!....that’s to NW.....not sure which type of straw it is but at that price it might be a wiser decision to sell the cattle or sheep!


  • #115
    tellmeabit
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    Odelay wrote:
    Butt chip is usually cheaper from mills too.



    Will make enquiries about that. Only for 10 weanlings so might fit the bill.. cheers


  • #116
    148multi
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    tellmeabit wrote: »
    Will make enquiries about that. Only for 10 weanlings so might fit the bill.. cheers

    Teagasc had sucklers with harvest calves on it, only shelter calves had was pallets around the edges, went to grass the same weight as ones from shed, but came in heaver as yearlings.


  • #117
    Base price
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    visatorro wrote: »
    Opened bale of rape four springers, they are sitting on it anyway! See how it goes after that!
    Was it dusty when you opened it. Please keep us informed as to how it performs.


  • #118
    Icelandicseige
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    Icelandicseige wrote: »
    Is it possible to have stock standing on slats while eating but then heading back to an open area that has woodchip??

    Edit to say the woodchip area would be sloping into slats and also would say Dry cows be happy on it during winter.??

    Anyone able to advise on this?


  • #119
    blue5000
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    Icelandicseige wrote: »
    Anyone able to advise on this?
    Icelandicseige wrote: »
    Is it possible to have stock standing on slats while eating but then heading back to an open area that has woodchip??

    Edit to say the woodchip area would be sloping into slats and also would say Dry cows be happy on it during winter.??

    If you are doing it you need a substantial barrier for cows to step over from the chips to the slats. Woodchip down in slats is a disaster from a spreading POV.

    If the seat's wet, sit on yer hat, a cool head is better than a wet ar5e.



  • #120
    Icelandicseige
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    blue5000 wrote: »
    If you are doing it you need a substantial barrier for cows to step over from the chips to the slats. Woodchip down in slats is a disaster from a spreading POV.

    Ok but i presume there would need run off area?


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