Peter Casey believes Travellers should not be recognised as an ethnic minority

FrancieBrady · 20-10-2018 09:17PM

Hitman3000 wrote: »

You're arguing with someone who feels that it is justifiable during a housing crisis to build stables to accompany free houses ( free to the McCarthy families, courtesy of the taxpayer) instead of homes for homeless families.

Nope Himan3000 more lies.

McMurphy · 20-10-2018 09:18PM

FrancieBrady wrote: »

So the 'source' says. You and I know Johnny how that attribution 'sources say' is
handy hide behind for media to run stories that have no bearing in fact.
For all we know the 'source' is some disgruntled loyalist ex RUC man with a grudge.

I will let this 'story' develop a wee bit more before I give it the time of day tbh.

Source is named

Assistant chief constable Alan Todd added: “The PSNI routinely work with visiting heads of state and other key figures visiting Northern Ireland and make full provisions for their safety in line with their requirements.”

and the Sinn Fein candidate has rolled in behind it

Sinn F presidential candidate Liadh Ni Riada said President Higgins’ claim about his transportation had been disputed by the PSNI.

She added: “They reject this security claim [and] say it would be ‘inconceivable’ that the President of Ireland would not have been afforded security if it had been requested.

“It is clear now that Michael D Higgins’ claim has caused considerable anger within the PSNI.

link

This is gonna put eggs on a lot of faces.

Hitman3000 · 20-10-2018 09:18PM

FrancieBrady wrote:

Nope Himan3000 more lies.

Your posts are still there. Although you ducked giving a straight answer repeatedly to another poster.

Hitman3000 · 20-10-2018 09:21PM

Johnny Dogs wrote:

This is gonna put eggs on a lot of faces.

Nice to see Higgins being shown to be no different than any other politician. Happy to cost the taxpayer 10's of thousands to use the Lear jet when a car ride would have sufficed. Champagne socialist if ever there was one.

tayto lover · 20-10-2018 09:22PM

Hitman3000 wrote: »

Nice to see Higgins being shown to be no different than any other politician. Happy to cost the taxpayer 10's of thousands to use the Lear jet when a car ride would have sufficed. Champagne socialist if ever there was one.

And wasn't it Casey who broke the story.
Casey having a very good week all round.

FrancieBrady · 20-10-2018 09:23PM

Johnny Dogs wrote: »

Source is named

and the Sinn Fein candidate has rolled in behind it

link

This is gonna put eggs on a lot of faces.

Not the same un-named source that said 'it is inconceivable etc etc.' He was the person giving the official line.

FrancieBrady · 20-10-2018 09:23PM

Hitman3000 wrote: »

Your posts are still there. Although you ducked giving a straight answer repeatedly to another poster.

Find one where I did what you said?

The high horse brigade · 20-10-2018 09:25PM

FrancieBrady wrote: »

Find one where I did what you said?

It's probably not possible search for a single post from you because you have a gazillion posts on this thread

Wheeliebin30 · 20-10-2018 09:27PM

Hitman3000 wrote: »

You're arguing with someone who feels that it is justifiable during a housing crisis to build stables to accompany free houses ( free to the McCarthy families, courtesy of the taxpayer) instead of homes for homeless families.

There are no free houses hitman;)

Hitman3000 · 20-10-2018 09:28PM

tayto lover wrote:

And wasn't it Casey who broke the story. Casey having a very good week all round.

Yeah he said it on the Virgin one debate, I think Higgins described it first as another fantasy charge then siad it was a security issue but insisted he drove to Derry weeks earlier. Still nothing though on whether there was any turth in Casey's other claim that Higgins once objected to a halting site being built.

Hitman3000 · 20-10-2018 09:29PM

FrancieBrady wrote:

Find one where I did what you said?

Along the lines of 'if the council agreed to build stables they should be built'. How can you justify building stables in the present housing crisis is beyond me .

Hitman3000 · 20-10-2018 09:29PM

Wheeliebin30 wrote:

There are no free houses hitman

I know this dude and we may have clashed by times but there is always a cost. Sometimes there is no cost to the end user.

FrancieBrady · 20-10-2018 09:30PM

Hitman3000 wrote: »

Yeah he said it on the Virgin one debate, I think Higgins described it first as another fantasy charge then siad it was a security issue but insisted he drove to Derry weeks earlier. Still nothing though on whether there was any turth in Casey's other claim that Higgins once objected to a halting site being built.

Yes there is. Galway Co Co say they have no records of MDH objecting to an application.

McMurphy · 20-10-2018 09:31PM

FrancieBrady wrote: »

Not the same un-named source that said 'it is inconceivable etc etc.' He was the person giving the official line.

Francie even LnR has come out now and commented on it, if you check this thread my first comment about any of this was the private jet story.

MDH is coming across as a great champagne socialist, he's no different than the rest win his snout in the trough.

Casey played a blinder here. More to come I hope.

FrancieBrady · 20-10-2018 09:31PM

Hitman3000 wrote: »

Along the lines of 'if the council agreed to build stables they should be built'. How can you justify building stables in the present housing crisis is beyond me .

If the council agreed to build them stables, I would be asking them same thing.
If they didn't, no problem.

FrancieBrady · 20-10-2018 09:33PM

Johnny Dogs wrote: »

Francie even LnR has come out now and commented on it, if you check this thread my first comment about any of this was the private jet story.

MDH is coming across as a great champagne socialist, he's no different than the rest win his snout in the trough.

Casey played a blinder here. More to come I hope.

So what if Ni Riada has come out and commented? It's an election, I wouldn't expect anything less.

There is nothing confirmed here. We do need it clarified though.

dav3 · 20-10-2018 09:35PM

Hitman3000 wrote: »

Still nothing though on whether there was any turth in Casey's other claim that Higgins once objected to a halting site being built.

https://www.irishtimes.com/news/politics/peter-casey-denies-mixing-up-michael-d-higgins-and-ff-mayor-1.3668462

Mr Casey suggested that Mr Higgins objected to a halting site near his home in 1968. Mr Higgins said that was inaccurate.

Presidential candidate Peter Casey has denied he made a mistake when he accused President Michael D Higgins of having objected to a Traveller halting site in Galway in 1968.

Galway City Council has been unable to shed light on the claim, made during the Virgin Media One presidential debate hosted by Pat Kenny on Wednesday night, despite Mr Casey claiming that the objection was “on the public record”.

However, a former Fianna Fáil mayor with a similar surname, businessman Michéal O hUiginn, has said that he was one of a majority of councillors who objected to plans by Galway’s local authority in 1968 to provide a hardstand in Rahoon, where Traveller families had been camped.

Mr Ó hUiginn noted that Mr Higgins was not on the council at the time, and he has no recollection of him being involved in what transpired at Rahoon. Both men were at university together, and both served terms as mayor of Galway.

Mr Ó hUiginn said the 1968 case was the one and only time he had objected to a halting site, and he had done so as there were concerns about its location next to a cemetery and in what was then a rural area on the outskirts of the city.

Just another one of the many balls up by Casey.

Hitman3000 · 20-10-2018 09:39PM

FrancieBrady wrote:

If the council agreed to build them stables, I would be asking them same thing. If they didn't, no problem.

So again if an agreement was made several years ago to build stables you still believe it would be appropriate in the present climate with resources stretched? Btw 900 families seeking housing in Tipp, the families in question turning down houses because they didn't come with 2 stables and half an acre. Indefensible tbh.

Yer Da sells Avon · 20-10-2018 09:39PM

Hitman3000 wrote: »

Still nothing though on whether there was any turth in Casey's other claim that Higgins once objected to a halting site being built.

There was no truth in it whatsoever. Apparently he may have confused him with a Fianna Fail councillor by the name of Michéal Ó hUiginn.

Wheeliebin30 · 20-10-2018 09:42PM

Hitman3000 wrote: »

I know this dude and we may have clashed by times but there is always a cost. Sometimes there is no cost to the end user.

It’s all good my man, we have common ground and we must stand it.....

FrancieBrady · 20-10-2018 09:42PM

Hitman3000 wrote: »

So again if an agreement was made several years ago to build stables you still believe it would be appropriate in the present climate with resources stretched? Btw 900 families seeking housing in Tipp, the families in question turning down houses because they didn't come with 2 stables and half an acre. Indefensible tbh.

Are you saying Co Co's should welch on agreements? I think if you extend that across the board you end up with chaos.

The family say the houses are no good to them, and that they are happy to let them go to homeless people.
It's typical Co Co paralysis that they haven't reallocated them.

McMurphy · 20-10-2018 09:43PM

FrancieBrady wrote: »

So what if Ni Riada has come out and commented? It's an election, I wouldn't expect anything less.

There is nothing confirmed here. We do need it clarified though.

Francie that looks to me like a pretty official statement from the PSNI,

Assistant chief constable Alan Todd added: “The PSNI routinely work with visiting heads of state and other key figures visiting Northern Ireland and make full provisions for their safety in line with their requirements.”

I thought it hard to believe at first that the President of Ireland wouldn't have had security provided for him while in another part of the island, and now they (PSNI) Seem to want to come out and defend themselves - rightly so if Higgins is spoofing to defend his use of a Lear jet while simultaneously sending his official car on ahead to Belfast to wait for him arriving by air.

Higgins said that he was did so after security advice, the offical security forces deny this.

Not sure if it's an intentional pun, but Higgins purpose in Belfast was quite ironic.

In May, he spoke at Queen’s University Belfast on the 20th anniversary of the Good Friday Agreement around the concepts of remembering, forgiving, forgetting, and imagining

:pac:

Wheeliebin30 · 20-10-2018 09:43PM

Yer Da sells Avon wrote: »

There was no truth in it whatsoever. Apparently he may have confused him with a Fianna Fail councillor by the name of Michéal Ó hUiginn.

How convenient.

Hitman3000 · 20-10-2018 09:44PM

FrancieBrady wrote:

The family say the houses are no good to them, and that they are happy to let them go to homeless people. It's typical Co Co paralysis that they haven't reallocated them.

I asked you earlier are you really that naive to think anyone else other than the McCarthys will be able to live in those houses in any type of comfort?

Wheeliebin30 · 20-10-2018 09:45PM

Yer Da sells Avon wrote: »

There was no truth in it whatsoever. Apparently he may have confused him with a Fianna Fail councillor by the name of Michéal Ó hUiginn.

How convenient.

terminator2018 · 20-10-2018 09:45PM

The RTE poll thats coming out is very fake news
I'll be sticking another 20 on President Casey for the win
Anyone i spoke to won't be voting or will be voting Casey
MAKE IRELAND GREAT AGAIN
AND HIGGINS SHOULD BE GOING TO JAIL FOR THE WAY HE'S SQUANDERING MONEY
10K FOR GROOMING HIS FILTHY MUTT DOGS FFS
the ordinary person struggling now to get winter shoes or coats for their children
and the mongos calling Casey a racist should be ashamed of themselves

holyhead · 20-10-2018 09:46PM

The two women Robinson and McAleese did a fine job as Presidents. Higgins has again turned it into a retirement home for politicians. We the people and the office of President deserve better.

Yer Da sells Avon · 20-10-2018 09:48PM

Wheeliebin30 wrote: »

How convenient.

Nah, Casey was definitely mistaken (either that or lying). There is no record of Michael D Higgins objecting to a halting site. There is, however, a record of Michéal Ó hUiginn objecting on one occasion in 1968, before Michael D was a councillor. Judging by his conduct throughout this campaign (before any of the anti-traveller stuff), I doubt Casey will have the decency to acknowledge that he was wrong.

tayto lover · 20-10-2018 09:49PM

Yer Da sells Avon wrote: »

There was no truth in it whatsoever. Apparently he may have confused him with a Fianna Fail councillor by the name of Michéal Ó hUiginn.

Ha ha and has Micheal O hUiginn access to the Govt jet too.

FrancieBrady · 20-10-2018 09:50PM

Hitman3000 wrote: »

I asked you earlier are you really that naive to think anyone else other than the McCarthys will be able to live in those houses in any type of comfort?

Is this the 'would you live next to a halting site' question?

It isn't a halting site, they have lived there for 50 years.

Are you saying they would intimidate the new tenants?

Peter Casey believes Travellers should not be recognised as an ethnic minority

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