A Whole Lot of Hate

Yer Da sells Avon · 20-10-2018 08:01PM

Omackeral wrote: »

How are any of the following hate?

Originally Posted by Roger Hassenforder
A lot of people are sick to fcuk of free loading parasites, and their entitlement.

Originally Posted by Patww79
When we decided enough is enough.

Originally Posted by NIMAN
Maybe people are finally getting fed up of being taken for a ride?

When you cry racism and hatred at stuff that isn't racism and hatred at all, you're taking away from what the actual words really stand for.

I said anger, not hate. Reread my post and apologise.

mosstin · 20-10-2018 08:03PM

mosstin wrote: »

Just a cursory glance at this week's most thanked posts on here were from threads on Peter Casey's opinion on travellers and more opprobrium for Margaret Cash.

There's a lot of hate out there. When did we become so bitter?

Omackeral wrote: »

Right here, in your OP;

You say we demonise groups/individuals. I dispute that. Which other groups are so widely distrusted and demonised?

Wrong, my OP alludes to threads on Casey and Margaret Cash and so it's about people's reactions to issues such as those.

Groups demonised? Immigrants/anyone on benefits//people on the left/people on the right etc etc - there's a rush to tar and feather groups on here and has been for some time.

mosstin · 20-10-2018 08:05PM

Omackeral wrote: »

How are any of the following hate?

When you cry racism and hatred at stuff that isn't racism and hatred at all, you're taking away from what the actual words really stand for.

Calling someone a free loading parasite isn't hate? Right........

Idbatterim · 20-10-2018 08:07PM

What is absolutely mind blowing here, the politicians and media only defend the indefensible and wasters, not one voice stands up and says stop. It’s madness! On the other hand you go on here, the journal and the vast majority of people have had enough, they agree with Casey’s comments. Cash gets a total berating and it’s a landslide consensus. So why do non of those vermin in the Fáil, echo our thoughts?!

Ulysses Gaze · 20-10-2018 08:10PM

mosstin wrote: »

Just a cursory glance at this week's most thanked posts on here were from threads on Peter Casey's opinion on travellers and more opprobrium for Margaret Cash.

There's a lot of hate out there. When did we become so bitter?

Not working and getting €54,000 tax free, shoplifting €300 in goods from a store and then pissing and moaning about not getting her "forever" house, on the tax payers dime, will do that...

Idbatterim · 20-10-2018 08:15PM

She is only the symptom, a result of the f*cking cesspit here. She doesn’t make the rules. Leo and co, the ones saying they’d reward workers , giving a euro a week back to a worker on e30,000 and giving a fiver a week to the welfare wasters. There’s your problem right there, cash and her ilk won’t change and that lying snake Varadkar who purports to represent workers, he won’t change it either. So enjoy being the working poor in Dublin, losing half your salary over a pittance, being a cash cow for that cow cash!

pickarooney · 20-10-2018 08:20PM

The day that someone decided that the word 'liberals' had any sense or meaning in an Irish context was the day it all went to hell in a handbasket.

**** without an original thought in their heads with nothing to do but rehash ****e they read on other websites.

The bots are actually more interesting to interact with than these ****ehawks. We've reached the stage where machines might pass but, damningly, an increasing number of humans would undoubtedly fail the Turing test.

tabby aspreme · 20-10-2018 08:22PM

I think it's more people venting their frustration than hatred, people who spend 50-60 hrs a week, between work and commuting having to listen to all the talk about the entitlements of people who choose to do nothing ,and make a career out of handouts, and have no appreciation of what they receive.

Idbatterim · 20-10-2018 08:25PM

tabby aspreme wrote: »

I think it's more people venting their frustration than hatred, people who spend 50-60 hrs a week, between work and commuting having to listen to all the talk about the entitlements of people who choose to do nothing ,and make a career out of handouts, and have no appreciation of what they receive.

I said it months ago on boards. I’m surprised it’s taken this long , for people facing declining living standards during our “boom” to pay for the likes of that waster. The ratio of tax cuts to spending as agreed with ff, was to be 1/2. Do you know what it was this budget ? 1/19!

Galwayguy35 · 20-10-2018 08:48PM

mosstin wrote: »

Calling someone a free loading parasite isn't hate? Right........

An accurate description in the case of Margaret Cash I'd suggest, she'll go from the cradle to the grave and won't contribute a single thing to society.

gw80 · 20-10-2018 08:49PM

mosstin wrote: »

And where have I said I'm talking about travellers here? Seriously, I'm talking about reactions to things, how we seem to be much more vitriolic in our desire to demonise groups/individuals these days. Merely an observation and was just throwing it out there to gauge reaction.

But nobody groups, devides, individualise,s people more than the left.
Ironically.

Yer Da sells Avon · 20-10-2018 08:57PM

Galwayguy35 wrote: »

An accurate description in the case of Margaret Cash I'd suggest, she'll go from the cradle to the grave and won't contribute a single thing to society.

I hate couching things in solely economic terms, but hopefully her children will get a better education than she did, and will be in a position to 'repay the debt' several times over.

Potential-Monke · 20-10-2018 09:03PM

People are sick of staying silent due to everything being branded as racist/sexist/etc. Opinions are no longer opinions, because even an opinion has to be PC these days. Well, people are sick of it. I stopped being PC years ago, and i'm ok with that. I don't incite hated, I don't incite racism or sexism. The only thing I may incite is for people to have their own opinions, regardless of who does and doesn't agree with you. I have not hidden my dislike of travellers, due to personal and professional experience, newspapers, media and word of mouth. I know they're not all the same, but the vast majority, IN MY OPINION, are scum, who prey on the weak and elderly.

So, before someone gets offended by MY OPINION, here's some facts:

Population of Ireland (July 2017): 5,011,102
Number of Travellers in the Republic (April 2016): 30,987
Number of people in prison as of 01/10/18: 3,819
Number of Travellers in prison (2010 is the latest I could find): 170-320 approx

So, rough % of the population in prison: 0.6%, % of travellers in prison: 10%... And yet we can't even comment on how much crime they commit, because of their protected status.

zl1whqvjs75cdy · 20-10-2018 09:23PM

But sure don't you know all traveler crime is the settled populations fault because we exclude them and discriminate etc. Even though when we attempt to give them a leg up in the form of free houses, they demand extra land etc. If they want to be equal, be equal. No settled person is demanding acres of land to keep livestock along with their state subsidized brand new house.

Galwayguy35 · 20-10-2018 09:26PM

Potential-Monke wrote: »

People are sick of staying silent due to everything being branded as racist/sexist/etc. Opinions are no longer opinions, because even an opinion has to be PC these days. Well, people are sick of it. I stopped being PC years ago, and i'm ok with that. I don't incite hated, I don't incite racism or sexism. The only thing I may incite is for people to have their own opinions, regardless of who does and doesn't agree with you. I have not hidden my dislike of travellers, due to personal and professional experience, newspapers, media and word of mouth. I know they're not all the same, but the vast majority, IN MY OPINION, are scum, who prey on the weak and elderly.

So, before someone gets offended by MY OPINION, here's some facts:

Population of Ireland (July 2017): 5,011,102
Number of Travellers in the Republic (April 2016): 30,987
Number of people in prison as of 01/10/18: 3,819
Number of Travellers in prison (2010 is the latest I could find): 170-320 approx

So, rough % of the population in prison: 0.6%, % of travellers in prison: 10%... And yet we can't even comment on how much crime they commit, because of their protected status.

Martin Collins was on Prime Time the other night, Miriam O Callaghan spent 90% of the time agreeing with him and then made a feeble attempt at mentioning the number of Travellers in prison which Marty ignored and of course MOC made no attempt to probe the issue further.

Potential-Monke · 20-10-2018 09:29PM

That's the problem. Travellers, and other groups, are given extra protection and it ends up making them a sacred cow that you can't even talk about. As long as people are using facts, or stating that it is their own opinion, there is no incitement to hatred. But we still have to thread lightly, even when posting anonymously on boards.

Samuel T. Cogley · 20-10-2018 09:34PM

Yer Da sells Avon wrote: »

I hate couching things in solely economic terms, but hopefully her children will get a better education than she did, and will be in a position to 'repay the debt' several times over.

Sadly it's more likely we'll just have several more debts.

mosstin · 20-10-2018 09:34PM

Potential-Monke wrote: »

That's the problem. Travellers, and other groups, are given extra protection and it ends up making them a sacred cow that you can't even talk about. As long as people are using facts, or stating that it is their own opinion, there is no incitement to hatred. But we still have to thread lightly, even when posting anonymously on boards.

Well, in this case, you reap what you sew.

20-10-2018 09:38PM

Yer Da sells Avon wrote: »

I said anger, not hate. Reread my post and apologise.

20-10-2018 09:40PM

mosstin wrote: »

Calling someone a free loading parasite isn't hate? Right........

If someone is able to work yet chooses not to their entire life. They are the very definition of a freeloader.

Yer Da sells Avon · 20-10-2018 09:40PM

Omackeral wrote: »

FFS, how am I supposed to print out and frame an animated gif.

20-10-2018 09:42PM

Yer Da sells Avon wrote: »

FFS, how am I supposed to print out and frame an animated gif.

I'll PM you a screenshot xoxo

Rubberchikken · 20-10-2018 09:55PM

People have always hated. But before the internet it was a lot more difficult to write the letter walk.to.the post office and buy that stamp.

terminator2018 · 20-10-2018 10:09PM

Hate comes from fear
my neighbour died this week and i was afraid to go the removal or the funeral because i wanted to keep an eye on the village, nothing happened
but lo and behold this afternoon the kunts arrived back in the village 2 van loads of them
i have a spot down in the hedge where i can spy out without being seen
1 parked out side the deceased's house, another up the road
the neighbour across the way has a new piece of equipment in the yard worth 15k, and he was away all day
rang local (15 miles away)guards, they had other reports of the same vans in already

so yes i hate these kunts, the dead mans house is still in darkness and i will be watching over it
nice way to spend a saturday night after breaking your back all week for no praise profit or thanks

s8n · 20-10-2018 10:09PM

Atari jaguar

Spanish Eyes · 20-10-2018 10:15PM

When working people who are paying through their taxes for this largesse will get significantly less in the budget than they do, it is no wonder working/contributing people are angry.

Vive la Revolution!

endacl · 20-10-2018 10:17PM

mosstin wrote: »

Calling someone a free loading parasite isn't hate? Right........

It would be, if it weren’t accurate.

Spanish Eyes · 20-10-2018 10:18PM

terminator2018 wrote: »

Hate comes from fear
my neighbour died this week and i was afraid to go the removal or the funeral because i wanted to keep an eye on the village, nothing happened
but lo and behold this afternoon the kunts arrived back in the village 2 van loads of them
i have a spot down in the hedge where i can spy out without being seen
1 parked out side the deceased's house, another up the road
the neighbour across the way has a new piece of equipment in the yard worth 15k, and he was away all day
rang local (15 miles away)guards, they had other reports of the same vans in already

so yes i hate these kunts, the dead mans house is still in darkness and i will be watching over it
nice way to spend a saturday night after breaking your back all week for no praise profit or thanks

Fair play to you. So sad that it has come to this.

Junkyard Tom · 20-10-2018 10:23PM

What annoys me is that disabled people get all the best parking spaces.

Sycamore Tree · 20-10-2018 10:26PM

Only one man could sort out the Boards we live in today. We need him now more than ever.

Facekicker, where are you?

A Whole Lot of Hate

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