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Peter Casey believes Travellers should not be recognised as an ethnic minority

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  • #2822
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 13,839 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Hitman3000 wrote: »
    Poll was taken between the 5th and 16th of Oct. Casey's remarks were on the 17th. I doubt he will be last after the amount of support his comments have gained.

    It would be interesting to know about all the other polls. What was the date range and how long after the final date was each poll published.


  • #2823
    tayto lover
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 55,069 ✭✭✭✭tayto lover


    Hitman3000 wrote: »
    I can see Casey finishing second. He has whether it was intentional or not started a conversation about Travellers which imo is badly needed.

    Exactly how I feel.
    I'm not even interested in the entire bunch trying to freeload as president.
    The debate on travellers behaviour in general needs to be had. As for being an ethnic group well that's just mad.


  • #2824
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 9,106 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    tayto lover wrote: »
    As for being an ethnic group well that's just mad.

    Whether you think that or not, makes no difference. it's prescribed in law.


  • #2825
    padd b1975
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,867 ✭✭✭✭padd b1975


    Hitman3000 wrote: »
    In fairness Robinson did some good. She highlighted the plight of Somalia when the west did not give a flying f**k. Can't think of any thing about Higgins tenure in office that I would put in the same category.

    He definitely hasn't been as visible as the previous two.

    It's a more Paddy Hillery style of president.


  • #2826
    Hitman3000
    Closed Accounts Posts: 5,593 ✭✭✭Hitman3000


    tayto lover wrote:
    Exactly how I feel. I'm not even interested in the entire bunch trying to freeload as president. The debate on travellers behaviour in general needs to be had. As for being an ethnic group well that's just mad.


    They are an ethnic ( own culture/language well some of them)group still just as Irish as the rest of us thiugh. The use of the racist charge is just to stifle debate.


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  • #2827
    Icsics
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,070 ✭✭✭Icsics


    When will we know if Peters running?


  • #2828
    Tipperary animal lover
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,510 ✭✭✭Tipperary animal lover


    dav3 wrote: »
    Shh, don't ruin the dream. Peter Casey flying around Ireland in his helicopter, looking down on the common folk, is a true man of the people.

    Ya Dav HE'S helicopter, so what are ya hinting at, some one can't spend their own money on themselves.


  • #2829
    FrancieBrady
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 75,864 ✭✭✭✭FrancieBrady


    Icsics wrote: »
    When will we know if Peters running?

    Don't you mean, 'has he stopped running?' :D:D:D:D


  • #2830
    holyhead
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,249 ✭✭✭holyhead


    He'll get my vote. It's about time someone with cajones said what was obvious. I know he has got pilloried for it but he has my respect for being straight up about it. Sadly we live in an Ireland which demands everyone toe a certain line on all issues and those that don't get quickly pulled into line.


  • #2831
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 9,106 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Icsics wrote: »
    When will we know if Peters running?

    A good guess would be "When Peter tells us he is". :P


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  • #2832
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 9,106 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    holyhead wrote: »
    He'll get my vote. It's about time someone with cajones said what was obvious. I know he has got pilloried for it but he has my respect for being straight up about it. Sadly we live in an Ireland which demands everyone toe a certain line on all issues and those that don't get quickly pulled into line.

    What other issues would you like him "not to toe the line" on?


  • #2833
    tayto lover
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 55,069 ✭✭✭✭tayto lover


    Deleted User wrote: »
    Whether you think that or not, makes no difference. it's prescribed in law.

    Indeed it is. Snuck in without any debate with the general population.


  • #2834
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 9,106 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    tayto lover wrote: »
    Indeed it is. Snuck in without any debate with the general population.

    Like a lot of other laws, some of which i disagree with. But that's life. Ballot box is the only way to change that.

    I personally don't disagree with the special ethnicity been provided to Travellers- but if it's not supported with a total support structure, then it's much worse than not having such a law in the first place.


  • #2835
    Wheeliebin30
    Closed Accounts Posts: 5,593 ✭✭✭Wheeliebin30


    [Deleted User] wrote: »
    What other issues would you like him "not to toe the line" on?

    Welfare, immigration,

    For a start.


  • #2836
    holyhead
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,249 ✭✭✭holyhead


    Deleted User wrote: »
    What other issues would you like him "not to toe the line" on?

    We are supposed to be living in a democracy which in theory entitles one to free speech. I just read an RTE piece on the presidential election which mentions that the pole too place before Peter Casey's controversial remarks. He simply stated what we all knew so why is it controversial. I want a President who says what he thinks not one who is dictated to by spin doctors. I'm sick to the back teeth of political correctness.


  • #2837
    Roger Hassenforder
    Closed Accounts Posts: 8,555 ✭✭✭Roger Hassenforder


    Robbed from the Vegan forum
    beertons wrote: »
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  • #2838
    FrancieBrady
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 75,864 ✭✭✭✭FrancieBrady


    Wheeliebin30 wrote: »
    Welfare, immigration,

    For a start.

    If he said he was in favour of open borders and welcoming all, and that welfare should be doubled, then effed off for the weekend, how would you feel?


  • #2839
    FrancieBrady
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 75,864 ✭✭✭✭FrancieBrady


    holyhead wrote: »
    We are supposed to be living in a democracy which in theory entitles one to free speech. I just read an RTE piece on the presidential election which mentions that the pole too place before Peter Casey's controversial remarks. He simply stated what we all knew so why is it controversial. I want a President who says what he thinks not one who is dictated to by spin doctors. I'm sick to the back teeth of political correctness.

    Nobody stopped him from saying what he wanted but he has to own what he said. But he fecked off for the weekend to consider his position.


  • #2840
    Wheeliebin30
    Closed Accounts Posts: 5,593 ✭✭✭Wheeliebin30


    FrancieBrady wrote: »
    If he said he was in favour of open borders and welcoming all, and that welfare should be doubled, then effed off for the weekend, how would you feel?

    Well I wouldn’t vote for him.

    That’s the magic of democracy


  • #2841
    Hitman3000
    Closed Accounts Posts: 5,593 ✭✭✭Hitman3000


    FrancieBrady wrote:
    Nobody stopped him from saying what he wanted but he has to own what he said. But he fecked off for the weekend to consider his position.


    I think we all know he took the weekend off, must be about 20 times you have repeated that same line. Any word on your hate crime compliant ? Have the Gardai started to investigate Casey yet?


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  • #2842
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 9,106 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    FrancieBrady wrote: »
    Nobody stopped him from saying what he wanted but he has to own what he said. But he fecked off for the weekend to consider his position.

    I think the fact that he did "own" what he said this week, has prompted this little reflection now. ;)


  • #2843
    holyhead
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,249 ✭✭✭holyhead


    FrancieBrady wrote: »
    Nobody stopped him from saying what he wanted but he has to own what he said. But he fecked off for the weekend to consider his position.

    The reason he might be considering his position is when you state an obvious fact, one which is known but never publicly stated, the politically correct brigade ready the rope for the gallows for the one person prepared to stick his neck above the parapet.

    It's absolute nonsense. It's the same nonsense that permits a 'tram surfer' to win 500k in compensation.


  • #2844
    FrancieBrady
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 75,864 ✭✭✭✭FrancieBrady


      Wheeliebin30 wrote: »
      Well I wouldn’t vote for him.

      That’s the magic of democracy

      But would you disagree with him? Would you be right to disagree with him?


    • #2845
      Icsics
      Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,070 ✭✭✭Icsics


      I really hope he stays in the Race...everyone I've met this week is voting for him, even my ultra conservative dad. Everyone is fed up with the Margaret Cashs of the country


    • #2846
      McMurphy
      Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,365 ✭✭✭✭McMurphy


      FrancieBrady wrote: »
      That is a 'source' within the PSNI commenting on the official 'no comment' statement from The PSNI.

      Not sure what to make of that.

      The pertinent line from that article is this one.
      "It would be inconceivable that the President of Ireland would not have been afforded security if it had been requested," a PSNI source told the BBC.

      I hadn't much interest in the bloody debate at all until I heard this mentioned in the debate, followed by Higgins tripping over himself to try and regain some dignity by rejecting a suggestion that driving wasn't good enough for him seconds later by saying he drove to Derry.

      I was indifferent to MDH as president until the extravagance stories started to leak.

      For balance , I've no issue with extravaganza, but don't like having piss streaming down my back while the pisser tales me it's raining.

      Casey has the balls to point it out - the emperors got no clothes on.


    • #2847
      FrancieBrady
      Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 75,864 ✭✭✭✭FrancieBrady


      Johnny Dogs wrote: »
      The pertinent line from that article is this one.



      I hadn't much interest in the bloody debate at all until I heard this mentioned in the debate, followed by Higgins tripping over himself to try and regain some dignity by rejecting a suggestion that driving wasn't good enough for him seconds later by saying he drove to Derry.

      I was indifferent to MDH as president until the extravagance stories started to leak.

      For balance , I've no issue with extravaganza, but don't like having piss streaming down my back while the pisser tales me it's raining.

      Casey has the balls to point it out - the emperors got no clothes on.

      So the 'source' says. You and I know Johnny how that attribution 'sources say' is
      handy hide behind for media to run stories that have no bearing in fact.
      For all we know the 'source' is some disgruntled loyalist ex RUC man with a grudge.

      I will let this 'story' develop a wee bit more before I give it the time of day tbh.


    • #2848
      Hitman3000
      Closed Accounts Posts: 5,593 ✭✭✭Hitman3000


      I think MDH played a blinder in frustrating a proper election race, because if it lasted longer I would imagine quite alot more would come into the public eye that would take the sheen off him. Caught telling porkies is not good when there was no need to unless your embrassed about using a Lear jet at the cost of 10k per hour to the taxpayer.


    • #2849
      Wheeliebin30
      Closed Accounts Posts: 5,593 ✭✭✭Wheeliebin30


      FrancieBrady wrote: »

        But would you disagree with him? Would you be right to disagree with him?

        Yeah but no but yeah but no.


      • #2850
        FrancieBrady
        Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 75,864 ✭✭✭✭FrancieBrady


        Wheeliebin30 wrote: »
        Yeah but no but yeah but no.

        I kinda knew where we were going with this. You just proved me right.


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      • #2851
        Hitman3000
        Closed Accounts Posts: 5,593 ✭✭✭Hitman3000


        Wheeliebin30 wrote:
        Yeah but no but yeah but no.


        You're arguing with someone who feels that it is justifiable during a housing crisis to build stables to accompany free houses ( free to the McCarthy families, courtesy of the taxpayer) instead of homes for homeless families.


      This discussion has been closed.
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