is Darndale that bad??

corner of hells · 17-10-2018 10:36AM

Hurrache wrote: »

Isn't the housing association interview process only applicable when someone is being housed in home that the housing association bought?

Someone has to live beside a problem family if that family gets housed.

I'm aware of families being told "you will not be housed or will be evicted " because of the behavior of a son or daughter.
Then having to make them homeless.

wexie · 17-10-2018 10:39AM

corner of hells wrote: »

I'm aware of families being told "you will not be housed or will be evicted " because of the behavior of a son or daughter.
Then having to make them homeless.

What happens then?

Not saying that it's not a good thing that antisocial behaviour doesn't get dealt with but evicting them and leaving them homeless isn't going to make them any less of a problem family?

corner of hells · 17-10-2018 10:42AM

wexie wrote: »

What happens then?

Not saying that it's not a good thing that antisocial behaviour doesn't get dealt with but evicting them and leaving them homeless isn't going to make them any less of a problem family?

What tends to happen is the son or daughter makes themselves homeless rather than have their family become homeless.
It takes years however to evict someone from a local authorities property.

17-10-2018 10:53AM

Watched that documentary - its not that bad. When I was 15 I lived in a squat in Hulme, Moss Side Manchester. That place was a complete crap hole with open gun crime. Darndale looks okay.

inforfun · 17-10-2018 11:07AM

Alias G wrote: »

Are there no ghettos in the Netherlands that he could have profiled?

Have RTE call me if they want to take "revenge". I can show them around some "nice " places in Amsterdam, Rotterdam and The Hague.

Had no idea about this program on Dutch tv although i really was surprised a couple of days ago that people knew where Darndale was when i posted a link to that horrible scrambler crash that took place there, on a Dutch website.

wexie · 17-10-2018 11:16AM

inforfun wrote: »

Have RTE call me if they want to take "revenge". I can show them around some "nice " places in Amsterdam, Rotterdam and The Hague.

I remember trying to get something delivered to the Bijlmer, courier company flat out refused to go, eventually the customer more or less said that's fair enough and collected it.

That was nearly 20 years ago though.

Faith+1 · 17-10-2018 11:18AM

6541 wrote: »

Watched that documentary - its not that bad. When I was 15 I lived in a squat in Hulme, Moss Side Manchester. That place was a complete crap hole with open gun crime. Darndale looks okay.

I thought it was pretty good myself. Some of those tossers should be locked up though and do society a favour.

inforfun · 17-10-2018 11:20AM

wexie wrote: »

I remember trying to get something delivered to the Bijlmer, courier company flat out refused to go, eventually the customer more or less said that's fair enough and collected it.

That was nearly 20 years ago though.

Sounds worse than i mean it because of the victims but the best thing that happened to the Bijlmer was the El Al plane crashing into it.
Still no paradise though.

Hotblack Desiato · 17-10-2018 12:46PM

joe stodge wrote: »

just watched a Dutch documentary about Dublin, the interviewer asked some lad in Dublin to describe how bad darndale is. The lad says “There’s little villages in eithopia that do fund raisers for darndale.”

Why did you go to a lot of trouble OP to disguise that Facebook link as a non-facebook link? Are you getting referrals or something?

rob316 · 17-10-2018 12:47PM

I drove through O Malley Park in Limerick once, is it worse than that as that was horrible, regretted going in there.

evolving tipperary · 17-10-2018 12:49PM

Hotblack Desiato wrote: »

Why did you go to a lot of trouble OP to disguise that Facebook link as a non-facebook link? Are you getting referrals or something?

Did we all just give away all our life information?

inforfun · 17-10-2018 12:55PM

Hotblack Desiato wrote: »

Why did you go to a lot of trouble OP to disguise that Facebook link as a non-facebook link? Are you getting referrals or something?

Not sure but a lot of the stuff on npo.nl (Dutch state broadcaster, paid for by the taxpayers) is geo locked. Maybe it is his way to get around that.

I looked for this on their website but cant play it here in work. Wil ltry again at home where i dont have a It department routing me via the US and blocking streaming.

Hotblack Desiato · 17-10-2018 12:59PM

Gravelly wrote: »

Jesus. I've been all over the world, and I have literally never seen that before.

There's plenty of estates in Neilstown that look a lot rougher than that.

Captain Obvious · 17-10-2018 01:40PM

Hotblack Desiato wrote: »

There's plenty of estates in Neilstown that look a lot rougher than that.

In Cherry Orchard they stole a truck to knock down a camera pole.

Ush1 · 17-10-2018 01:40PM

corner of hells wrote: »

I work in homeless services specifically around supporting people getting housed , what's happening now is that when local authorities have someone to house they go through to estate management checks first to purposely identify problem family's or individuals .
After that a housing association interviews the individuals or family to decide on suitability.The housing associations now charities/ngo independent of the local authorities and they have more power over selection to be housed and are quicker to deal with problem tenants.

So to say you could end up living beside a problem family is not quite true.

Yes but problem families and individuals are being housed somewhere...

rob316 · 17-10-2018 01:56PM

Captain Obvious wrote: »

In Cherry Orchard they stole a truck to knock down a camera pole.

The Satanist · 17-10-2018 02:46PM

If they had any pride in their scumbaggery, they wouldn't have allowed that pole go up in the first place.

brainfreeze · 17-10-2018 02:59PM

joe stodge wrote: »

just watched a Dutch documentary about Dublin, the interviewer asked some lad in Dublin to describe how bad darndale is. The lad says “There’s little villages in eithopia that do fund raisers for darndale.”

https://www.npo3.nl/danny-in-de.../03-10-2018/VPWON_1284298

Stolen Frankie Boyle joke about Kirkcaldy.

https://youtu.be/v5n0psmQdMo?t=15

TheBlock · 17-10-2018 03:12PM

brainfreeze wrote: »

Stolen Frankie Boyle joke about Kirkcaldy.

https://youtu.be/v5n0psmQdMo?t=15

Kircaldy's alright....Lochelly now theres a ****hole.

charlietheminxx · 17-10-2018 03:20PM

It's a hole of a place. You should see Clarehall post office on dole day.

KyussB · 17-10-2018 03:58PM

JupiterKid wrote: »

Darndale is an extremely deprived area and has a reputation for being very rough and rather dangerous.

When it was built in the 1970s and early 80s it was an "experimental" design where the dwellings faced little courtyards - it was modelled on a UK housing estate in Andover in England (which itself was a huge social failure) - anywho this design meant that was little to no "defensible space" where residents could monitor and curtail anti-social activity. Mix this major layout flaw with the estate slipping into being the most deprived in the country by the late 1980s due to the Surrender Grant and Dublin Corpo allocation policies and you have a recipe for disaster.

I know a bit about how estate design can create social problems as I did my Masters Thesis on the evolution of local authority housing estate design 1930-1990.

Didn't know what the surrender grant was, and found this excellent report giving great background (writen in the late 80's), on how some of the most deprived areas in Dublin, came to be even worse:
https://www.threshold.ie/download/pdf/policy_consequences.pdf

r93kaey5p2izun · 17-10-2018 05:40PM

Are there many boarded up houses in Darndale?

Gravelly · 17-10-2018 05:42PM

charlietheminxx wrote: »

It's a hole of a place. You should see Clarehall post office on dole day.

CAN you see Clarehall post office on dole day?

Pkiernan · 17-10-2018 05:45PM

Nothing a MOAB wont sort out.

Just make sure the 42 bus isn't going by at the same time.

Wheeliebin30 · 17-10-2018 07:22PM

corner of hells wrote: »

I work in homeless services specifically around supporting people getting housed , what's happening now is that when local authorities have someone to house they go through to estate management checks first to purposely identify problem family's or individuals .
After that a housing association interviews the individuals or family to decide on suitability.The housing associations now charities/ngo independent of the local authorities and they have more power over selection to be housed and are quicker to deal with problem tenants.

So to say you could end up living beside a problem family is not quite true.

BS!!

I know of a family recently moved from a “homeless” hub and already everyone living around them want out.

Sky King · 17-10-2018 07:42PM

is Darndale that bad??

It's like Hilldale in the back to the future movies, but the alternate reality version where Biff is in charge.

dhaughton99 · 17-10-2018 07:43PM

Pikey Connors didn’t do it any favors with that ****ty gang movie he had out last year. Wasn’t that based in Darndale?

dhaughton99 · 17-10-2018 07:46PM

corner of hells wrote: »

I work in homeless services specifically around supporting people getting housed , what's happening now is that when local authorities have someone to house they go through to estate management checks first to purposely identify problem family's or individuals .
After that a housing association interviews the individuals or family to decide on suitability.The housing associations now charities/ngo independent of the local authorities and they have more power over selection to be housed and are quicker to deal with problem tenants.

So to say you could end up living beside a problem family is not quite true.

That’s complete bull. You mean they have to sign an agreement but try get them evicted when they do start their crap.

Collie D · 17-10-2018 07:48PM

dhaughton99 wrote: »

Pikey Connors didn’t do it any favors with that ****ty gang movie he had out last year. Wasn’t that based in Darndale?

It was. Well, the three minutes I watched of it before turning off was.

In answer to OP - I didn't watch the documentary but yes, it's a bit of a dump. Plenty of decent normal people but more than its fair share of little ****ers who don't give a crap about anyone and who won't ever make a worthwhile contribution to society other than keeping prison officers in work.

Not sure it deserves to be blown up though as suggested a few posts back.

arybvtcw0eolkf · 17-10-2018 09:46PM

Btw much of that documentary is shot in other parts of Dublin like Coolock, Arbour Hill and Finglas south.

is Darndale that bad??

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