Gangland criminals with respectable-sounding surnames.

Anthracite · 15-10-2018 08:28PM

Gravelly wrote: »

Have a look at any regional paper anywhere in Ireland over a few months, and you will discover that certain surnames are strongly associated with crime in each region. This is usually far more geographically spread than can be accounted for by a single family. There are numerous surnames in Ireland that most people would immediately recognise as being associated with criminality.

Crinnion?

Donald Trump · 15-10-2018 08:31PM

corner of hells wrote: »

The spacer I'm married to is related to a notorious London crime family with multiple convictions and sentences served and has their name.
I'm hopeful she'll be arrested any day soon.

Yer missus's name is Reggie Kray? :eek:

Donald Trump · 15-10-2018 09:12PM

Them oul' Varadkars are a notoriously criminal Irish enterprise

:pac:

steve-collins · 15-10-2018 09:47PM

Casino park Marino is not posh. Far from it in fact.

political analyst · 15-10-2018 09:48PM

Dr Brown wrote: »

Don't forget "fatpuss".

That's the nickname of Alan Bradley (an ordinary-sounding surname).

whisky_galore · 15-10-2018 09:50PM

Ash.J.Williams wrote: »

What's an English person look like?

They have differently shaped heads and noses, quite unlike the Celtic 'Master Race'.

nthclare · 15-10-2018 10:22PM

whisky_galore wrote: »

They have differently shaped heads and noses, quite unlike the Celtic 'Master Race'.

They're more squinted looking, if you observe well enough you'll notice it.

It's like Kerry people, I'm not from Kerry but their men are very good looking, dark complexion and a good jaw bone.
The women in Kerry are quite attractive looking too.
Clare people aren't great looking, they have a pudgy look about them.
Galway aren't that attractive either.
Mayo no....
Sligo and Donegal have great looking people too...

goose2005 · 15-10-2018 10:43PM

Ash.J.Williams wrote: »

What's an English person look like?

BoneIdol · 15-10-2018 10:46PM

Ash.J.Williams wrote: »

What's an English person look like?

Tommy Robinson

BoneIdol · 15-10-2018 10:49PM

Danzy wrote: »

Angus oSnodaigh TD one of the few voices in Dublin that has the Protestant working class accent still.

A little known lingual fact.

His no shoes wearing hippy brother and the rest of Kila should ask the queen for some smart footwear.

patsy_mccabe · 15-10-2018 11:03PM

I knew a Robin Banks once. He'd disappear every so often. When I'd ask him where he was, he'd say 'I was at me Nan's"

whiskeyman · 15-10-2018 11:07PM

patsy_mccabe wrote: »

I knew a Robin Banks once. He'd disappear every so often. When I'd ask him where he was, he'd say 'I was at me Nan's"

Ann Dover?

nthclare · 16-10-2018 12:21AM

BoneIdol wrote: »

Tommy Robinson

You'll never see Tommy Robinson and Andy Bell in the same room....

Can ye see the resemblance ?

imme · 16-10-2018 10:03PM

oi posh boy!

surely there's a student somewhere who could throw together a piece on this for you OP.

Does a surname bear such connotations as 'poshness'.

ChikiChiki · 16-10-2018 10:31PM

nthclare wrote: »

They're more squinted looking, if you observe well enough you'll notice it.

It's like Kerry people, I'm not from Kerry but their men are very good looking, dark complexion and a good jaw bone.
The women in Kerry are quite attractive looking too.
Clare people aren't great looking, they have a pudgy look about them.
Galway aren't that attractive either.
Mayo no....
Sligo and Donegal have great looking people too...

Haha I lolled. The 3 people from Clare I know are as you described.

mick malones mauser · 16-10-2018 10:59PM

Forget surnames..people with the most unusual surnames can be crims, it's not just the Byrnes, Smiths, Kellys etc .
But First or Christian names among the criminal fraternity is worth doing a thesis on.
Lets start with an analysis of the fly on the wall documentary about Dublins underworld which was called Love/Hate. Main guys nickname was Nidge, which apparently is "short " for Nigel..
Now here is fun fact..No member of the Dublin working class was ever called Nigel..ever..Fact

political analyst · 18-10-2018 02:46PM

mick malones mauser wrote: »

Forget surnames..people with the most unusual surnames can be crims, it's not just the Byrnes, Smiths, Kellys etc .
But First or Christian names among the criminal fraternity is worth doing a thesis on.
Lets start with an analysis of the fly on the wall documentary about Dublins underworld which was called Love/Hate. Main guys nickname was Nidge, which apparently is "short " for Nigel..
Now here is fun fact..No member of the Dublin working class was ever called Nigel..ever..Fact

Usually, gangland criminals with unusual surnames are the ones whose surnames sound rough, i.e. Collopy, Dundon, Sugg.

I'm aware that one criminal was Shane Coates, who was from the same family as the composer of the theme tune of "The Dam Busters".

It was mentioned earlier in this thread that there used to be a significant Protestant working-class community in Dublin and that this may explain the posh-sounding "skanger" surnames. An example here is conticted drug dealer Paul Ainscough, who died earlier this year (I assumed the deceased here is the same person).

https://rip.ie/death-notice/paul-ainscough-drimnagh-dublin/355100

Funnily enough, there's a marriage registrar in England who has the same name!
https://www.irishmirror.ie/news/world-news/sham-wedding-exposed-bride-groom-4968957

28-02-2020 10:22PM

political analyst wrote: »

Usually, gangland criminals with unusual surnames are the ones whose surnames sound rough, i.e. Collopy, Dundon, Sugg.

I'm aware that one criminal was Shane Coates, who was from the same family as the composer of the theme tune of "The Dam Busters".

It was mentioned earlier in this thread that there used to be a significant Protestant working-class community in Dublin and that this may explain the posh-sounding "skanger" surnames. An example here is conticted drug dealer Paul Ainscough, who died earlier this year (I assumed the deceased here is the same person).

https://rip.ie/death-notice/paul-ainscough-drimnagh-dublin/355100

Funnily enough, there's a marriage registrar in England who has the same name!
https://www.irishmirror.ie/news/world-news/sham-wedding-exposed-bride-groom-4968957

Paul 'Gash' Ainscough actually died in June 2019

https://rip.ie/death-notice/paul-gash-ainscough-dublin-8-dublin/391077

He had a rap sheet going back to the late 1960s

https://www.thefreelibrary.com/This+man+sold+hard+drugs+around+here+for+yrs%2C+now+he+knows+what+it%27s...-a083068408

He may have been related to a former gangland Dublin character called Charles ‘Charlie’ Ainscough (aka Henchico) who was active in the 1940s-1960s. See:

https://comeheretome.com/2018/01/30/henchico-dublins-early-underworld-kingpin/

28-02-2020 10:36PM

Zambra is another unusual/surname that has gangland connections in Dublin.

Wayne Zambra of Lourdes Road, Maryland, Dublin 8 shot dead in 2006
https://www.irishtimes.com/news/garda%C3%AD-in-new-push-after-gang-murder-1.1040655

Christopher 'Git' Zambra of Galtymore Road, Drimnagh shot dead in 2014
https://www.thejournal.ie/christopher-zambra-drimnagh-1449066-May2014/

Karl Zambra - 77 convictions
https://www.thejournal.ie/man-jailed-for-selling-cocaine-to-undercover-gardai-4347935-Nov2018/

Paul Zambra
https://www.rte.ie/news/2016/0316/775314-gun-sentence/

There was only two Zambra familes in the whole island in 1911. Living in Mercer St and Cuffe St.(around the corner from each other) in Dublin.

A May Zambra was active in republican politics during the Civil War. She went on hunger strike while imprisoned aged 17.

Gangland criminals with respectable-sounding surnames.

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