Ulster Bank League 2018-2019 Talk/Gossip/Rumours

Chico Flores · 04-10-2018 03:43PM

Mc Love wrote: »

Next episode of the Club Scene is out https://open.spotify.com/episode/0wNYupLFmqdS1GeW1ALcK9?si=Ma1irugDRsGN9KEbbA2n9Q

Great banter between the lads, and good roundup of the history of the AIL.

I wouldn't say it is great banter... it is a bit too Limerick at times. But it is a great service they are providing and great to have it.

Mc Love · 04-10-2018 03:57PM

Chico Flores wrote: »

I wouldn't say it is great banter... it is a bit too Limerick at times. But it is a great service they are providing and great to have it.

Maybe you have to be from Limerick to get the banter, but I find the slagging between them funny.

The Lost Sheep · 04-10-2018 03:58PM

Chico Flores wrote: »

I wouldn't say it is great banter... it is a bit too Limerick at times. But it is a great service they are providing and great to have it.

Too limerick...that's harsh
But yeah great to have something covering the league.
Hasnt been anything like it since rob finished knockon.ie

Mc Love · 04-10-2018 04:03PM

kncokon.ie was great!

Chico Flores · 04-10-2018 04:09PM

The Lost Sheep wrote: »

Too limerick...that's harsh
But yeah great to have something covering the league.
Hasnt been anything like it since rob finished knockon.ie

I get there will be "in jokes" etc but not running it down at all.

Delighted to have it.

The Lost Sheep · 04-10-2018 04:40PM

Front Row Union also covering the league. from Ulster perspective
will be providing previews plus more content as season progresses
https://thefrontrowunion.com/2018/10/club-men-ail-1b-kicks-off-this-saturday/

The Lost Sheep · 04-10-2018 08:29PM

Transfers and full squads for the Limerick clubs in 1A
https://www.limerickleader.ie/news/sport/339848/revealed-summer-comings-and-goings-at-limerick-s-top-flight-ail-clubs.html?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=twitter

CMcsporty · 05-10-2018 10:27AM

The Lost Sheep wrote: »

All-Ireland League proving a vital outlet for academy prospects

Massive decisions ahead-
“There is a big gap between what some of the clubs prefer and an IRFU model that is based on geographical inclusivity at elite level with no relegation for two years, while maintaining an outline commitment to ensure that the upper echelons of the All-Ireland Leagues (AIL) are not only a pathway for aspiring professional rugby players but an environment where they would regularly compete when not required by their respective provinces.
The clubs rejected a union proposal that the current limit of four professional players – two forwards, two backs – be increased to eight (four and four) with a compromise of six players, also rejected. These player proposals only apply in Divisions 1A and 1B. The participation agreements are due to be returned to the IRFU this week.”

Stainalert · 05-10-2018 10:40AM

CMcsporty wrote: »

The Lost Sheep wrote: »

All-Ireland League proving a vital outlet for academy prospects

Massive decisions ahead-
“There is a big gap between what some of the clubs prefer and an IRFU model that is based on geographical inclusivity at elite level with no relegation for two years, while maintaining an outline commitment to ensure that the upper echelons of the All-Ireland Leagues (AIL) are not only a pathway for aspiring professional rugby players but an environment where they would regularly compete when not required by their respective provinces.
The clubs rejected a union proposal that the current limit of four professional players – two forwards, two backs – be increased to eight (four and four) with a compromise of six players, also rejected. These player proposals only apply in Divisions 1A and 1B. The participation agreements are due to be returned to the IRFU this week.”

All the participation agreements are signed and the six players rule is now in effect.

young munsters man · 05-10-2018 10:58AM

tomorrow is 28 years to the day the league started , that day we also played terenure at home in division 2, hopefully we get a performance and a decent crowd.

CMcsporty · 05-10-2018 11:20AM

Stainalert wrote: »

All the participation agreements are signed and the six players rule is now in effect.

Eeek!
From a personal point of view I wouldn’t be pleased at facing down a professional athlete. & vice versa, but for vastly different reasons!
e.g. Josh Murphy type v Father of two, who didn’t sleep the night and has a stiff back.

Ring fencing 1A&1B for two years as more pro’s are introduced is a good idea. However, this sounds like a Lady & the Tramp marriage proposal, without the happy ending.

young munsters man · 05-10-2018 11:20AM

isnt it a pity lads divsions 1a/b starting same day as leinster v munster and will be overshadowed by that game and european games in following weeks , bar local media

The Lost Sheep · 05-10-2018 11:32AM

CMcsporty wrote: »

Eeek!
From a personal point of view I wouldn’t be pleased at facing down a professional athlete. & vice versa, but for vastly different reasons!
e.g. Josh Murphy type v Father of two, who didn’t sleep the night and has a stiff back.

Ring fencing 1A&1B for two years as more pro’s are introduced is a good idea. However, this sounds like a Lady & the Tramp marriage proposal, without the happy ending.

There has been professionals playing in league for years. And there would be plenty of guys playing 1A/1B who would relish playing the pros.

young munsters man wrote: »

isnt it a pity lads divsions 1a/b starting same day as leinster v munster and will be overshadowed by that game and european games in following weeks, bar local media

Maybe but will clubs have wanted to start earlier and had players lost to A sides which is something you have complained excessively about?

CMcsporty · 05-10-2018 11:43AM

The Lost Sheep wrote: »

There has been professionals playing in league for years. And there would be plenty of guys playing 1A/1B who would relish playing the pros.

Aye! But now there are 6 of 'em!!
& why does no one think of the Fatties!

young munsters man · 05-10-2018 11:46AM

maybe start it bit earlier an break for the european game, i dont know what the solution is but the league will be overshadowed the next few weekends no doubt ,
i dont mind fellas being lost to A games, we are missing a number tomorrow but thems the breaks, there might be days when we have lads released and opposition dont, that can go for and against you and can even out over a season, semis and finals should be sacrosanct,

young munsters man · 05-10-2018 11:47AM

anyway sheep best of luck to nenagh for the season ahead hope ye do well , id love to see ye promoted

CMcsporty · 05-10-2018 11:47AM

young munsters man wrote: »

maybe start it bit earlier an break for the european game, i dont know what the solution is but the league will be overshadowed the next few weekends no doubt ,
i dont mind fellas being lost to A games, we are missing a number tomorrow but thems the breaks, there might be days when we have lads released and opposition dont, that can go for and against you and can even out over a season, semis and finals should be sacrosanct,

Summer League anybody?

iminterestd0 · 05-10-2018 11:47AM

young munsters man wrote: »

isnt it a pity lads divsions 1a/b starting same day as leinster v munster and will be overshadowed by that game and european games in following weeks , bar local media

so you'd play the AIL when? during the summer?

young munsters man · 05-10-2018 11:51AM

dont know what the solution is - maybe start it week or two earlier , an play provincial cup matches during european breaks
fact remains though AIL aint gonna get a lot of attention the next few weeks

The Lost Sheep · 05-10-2018 11:51AM

CMcsporty wrote: »

Aye! But now there are 6 of 'em!!
& why does no one think of the Fatties!

Fatties wont be too concerned and there has been plenty of games with 4/5 pros playing before....

young munsters man wrote: »

maybe start it bit earlier an break for the european game, i dont know what the solution is but the league will be overshadowed the next few weekends no doubt,
i dont mind fellas being lost to A games, we are missing a number tomorrow but thems the breaks, there might be days when we have lads released and opposition dont, that can go for and against you and can even out over a season, semis and finals should be sacrosanct,

With celtic cup being played in september if you started the league earlier then you would lose players to that and we all know how much you would complain if you lose players to A/Development teams.
The league will always or virtually always be overshadowed any way....
And you cant complain about players being pulled by the side that pays their bills etc.
And semi finals/finals can only be sacrosanct if theyre played with nothing else on and at end of season that isnt possible.

young munsters man · 05-10-2018 11:57AM

With celtic cup being played in september if you started the league earlier then you would lose players to that and we all know how much you would complain if you lose players to A/Development teams.

if you read my prior post i dont have problem with it during regular season,
And semi finals/finals can only be sacrosanct if theyre played with nothing else on and at end of season that isnt possible.
they can last seasons semi finals and final didnt clash with any european games or a games.

iminterestd0 · 05-10-2018 11:58AM

young munsters man wrote: »

dont know what the solution is - maybe start it week or two earlier , an play provincial cup matches during european breaks
fact remains though AIL aint gonna get a lot of attention the next few weeks

and? It's a amateur league competition...

The Lost Sheep · 05-10-2018 12:03PM

young munsters man wrote: »

With celtic cup being played in september if you started the league earlier then you would lose players to that and we all know how much you would complain if you lose players to A/Development teams.

if you read my prior post i dont have problem with it during regular season,
And semi finals/finals can only be sacrosanct if theyre played with nothing else on and at end of season that isnt possible.
they can last seasons semi finals and final didnt clash with any european games or a games.

young munsters man would you use the multiquote and not bolded text.....
Its not always possible to have everything not clash. And you cant complain about losing players .... you have a squad of 40 and you just have to use that squad. Just deal with it.

young munsters man · 05-10-2018 12:03PM

grand we wont bother promoting it so! ive been to lot of games in this league, its a fantastic competition standard of football is often excellent, it deserves a bit of coverage an promotion - thats just my view

Cookiemunster · 05-10-2018 12:04PM

young munsters man wrote: »

dont know what the solution is - maybe start it week or two earlier , an play provincial cup matches during european breaks
fact remains though AIL aint gonna get a lot of attention the next few weeks

Yeah some ridiculous scheduling. At the moment Munsters are still due to KO at 2:30 at home to UCC the day Munster play Gloucester at 1 in Thomond. Good luck getting people through the gate that day. The IRFU don't care about clashes with pro games. There're also regularly clashes with 6N games.

young munsters man · 05-10-2018 12:04PM

and in fairness local media here really cover the league well, think the new clubscenepodcast is very good

CMcsporty · 05-10-2018 12:07PM

The Lost Sheep wrote: »

Fatties wont be too concerned and there has been plenty of games with 4/5 pros playing before....

.

I've never seen 5 pro's play in a League side.
It must be a rarity?

The Lost Sheep · 05-10-2018 12:07PM

Cookiemunster wrote: »

Yeah some ridiculous scheduling. At the moment Munsters are still due to KO at 2:30 at home to UCC the day Munster play Gloucester at 1 in Thomond. Good luck getting people through the gate that day. The IRFU don't care about clashes with pro games. There're also regularly clashes with 6N games.

All games are set for the default time on Saturdays at 2.30pm or Fridays 8pm. Up to clubs to request changes to that by making agreement with their opposition on day in question and applying for change

Cookiemunster · 05-10-2018 12:07PM

iminterestd0 wrote: »

and? It's a amateur league competition...

You're trying to get people through the gates. That's not going to happen when you've got games clashing with Euro games (in the same city) or international matches.

Stainalert · 05-10-2018 12:09PM

CMcsporty wrote: »

The Lost Sheep wrote: »

There has been professionals playing in league for years. And there would be plenty of guys playing 1A/1B who would relish playing the pros.

Aye! But now there are 6 of 'em!!
& why does no one think of the Fatties!

Reality is that it will be very rare for a club to field 6 full time professionals in one match. Only very few clubs have that many full-timers on their books and even if they do they all have to be released by the province. Might help the likes of Buccs and one or 2 of the Ulster clubs but that is probably it.

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